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HomeAircraftHelicopterBlades and Night Flying › RcHeliWorkz at IRCHA will have a small supply of Matt Botos new Rail R606 blades
08-05-2011 04:56 PM  6 years agoPost 1
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RcHeliWorkz will be 1 of only 2 in the US that has a supply of the new Matt Botos Rail R606 blades we will have them at our booth will be on the west end and will introduce them Wed morning and will be first come
Only a small batch hit the US

RcHeliWorkz.com , ElyQ Dist, Rapicon US warehouse, SWE Blades US Dist

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08-05-2011 05:25 PM  6 years agoPost 2
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Hmm... The tips of these blades look identical to the tips of the Rotortech 3D blades. Are these blades made by Fun-Key too?

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08-08-2011 01:54 PM  6 years agoPost 3
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if you look at the pic, the packaging is just like rotortech's and edge's and at the bottom you can see that fun-key is written. if it is manufactured by funkey, it is a quality made blade

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08-08-2011 02:48 PM  6 years agoPost 4
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I talked to Matt about these blades when I took his clinic in July. I also saw him fly them, very quiet blades, very nice. Very nice blades to look at too.

Team Sanjel!

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08-08-2011 07:09 PM  6 years agoPost 5
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If they are made by FUN-KEY, I can sure for their quality.

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08-31-2011 08:20 AM  6 years agoPost 6
OICU812

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626mm Rails would be nice to try as that well..is in many new models the new .50 -(600) size blade.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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09-02-2011 01:47 PM  6 years agoPost 7
Kevin Dalrymple

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The quality is high on the New Rail Blades. And they are very efficent. They work, and fly great. I have been flying them since IRCHA.

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09-02-2011 03:30 PM  6 years agoPost 8
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You mean like that ^.

I bet they are made by Funkey...heck all high quality blades are made by them...(maybe Rail, Edge, Radix). I wonder how different they are internally...probably a couple weight mods and the obvious cosmetic appearances, but I highly doubt these guys are doing much in regard to airfoil or shape because making those molds over to experiment is probably expensive. Re badge, mod the weight distribution and sell them!

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09-02-2011 05:07 PM  6 years agoPost 9
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I bet they are made by Funkey...heck all high quality blades are made by them...(maybe Rail, Edge, Radix). I wonder how different they are internally...probably a couple weight mods and the obvious cosmetic appearances, but I highly doubt these guys are doing much in regard to airfoil or shape because making those molds over to experiment is probably expensive. Re badge, mod the weight distribution and sell them!
Those sure look like the Rotor Tech Carbon blades, which were the first Carbon Fiber blade designs for which FK made molds and proceeded to manufacture.

The Rotor Tech's have been distributed by Century in the USA and other companies in many other countries, for well over 10 years and flown very successfully in 3D and FAI competitions by top pilots like Scott Gray for over 10 years.

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09-02-2011 08:05 PM  6 years agoPost 10
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http://www.heli-world.com/images/products/PAAAAAFJBENJCMHK.jpg[/img]

You mean like that ^.

I bet they are made by Funkey...heck all high quality blades are made by them...(maybe Rail, Edge, Radix). I wonder how different they are internally...probably a couple weight mods and the obvious cosmetic appearances, but I highly doubt these guys are doing much in regard to airfoil or shape because making those molds over to experiment is probably expensive. Re badge, mod the weight distribution and sell them!
The Rail are indeed made by FunKey and they indeed look similar to the RotorTech. If you enhance the picture in the first post, it clearly says FunKey on the packaging. I failed to see that at first, then another poster here brought this to my attention.

Regarding whether they are just rebadged product or some new R&D went into it, the following is from the Rail blades website (if we believe what they say or not, that's another matter):

"In the winter of 2010, Botos Design & Distribution Inc. set out to design and manufacture a more efficient model helicopter rotor blade for both flybar and flybarless helicopters. Extensive research was performed involving both flybarless electronics experts as well as aerodynamics experts which uncovered airfoil efficiencies that are now implemented in the design of Rail Blades. The efficiencies of this custom airfoil are revealed in faster forward flight speed, more stable flight, as well as cooler running power systems. Other widely used “standard” airfoils such as NACA-0013 showed dramatic increases in amperage draw and motor loading as well as less collective and cyclic response than the custom Rail Blade airfoil.

With Rail Blades, nothing about the design is arbitrary! The tip of a rotor blade is one of the most important features of the rotor blade design. Many rotor blade manufacturers simply design a tip that looks good without considering the importance of efficiency. If you have ever heard a rotor blade flutter during aggressive maneuvers it is because the rotor blades are coming out of track, this is mainly due to a poorly designed rotor blade tip. Rotor blades that make excessive noise are consuming priceless energy that your helicopter should be using to accelerate itself through the air. Rail Blades have been designed with an ultra efficient rotor blade tip which delivers unparalleled power and silence.

Rail Blades are designed and tested in the USA by Botos Design & Distribution Inc."

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09-02-2011 08:10 PM  6 years agoPost 11
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It's odd Rotortech never got into FBL blades. But if matts are
Basically RTs but fbl that's good anyhow.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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09-02-2011 08:19 PM  6 years agoPost 12
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Just sayin, I have been flyin RTs for a long time, my preferred blade BTW. They have, since I have been aware of them, boasted about the tip tech they use........
Yea I have been surprised the RT has not come up with a FBL line but it looks like they have decided being a brand supplier is the way to go....
BTW my edge packaging list Funkey as the manufacturer
Its also worth noting that branding has gone on forever and MANY MANY factors are spec ed and required by the buyer. Just because company 123 supplies many brands and they all look alike does not mean they are all equal.

RIP ROMAN

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09-02-2011 09:34 PM  6 years agoPost 13
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Hopefully he puts out a set of 325mm blades too.

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09-02-2011 09:58 PM  6 years agoPost 14
Kevin Dalrymple

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Send both sets to me.

Fly them both and pick one...research done.
Not sure if this can be done like that. Funkey might not be able to share the information Edge and CYE has in there blades. You make it sound so simple, but i bet it is not. Why would Edge or CYE want you to copy there blades?
Ive seen a few products in development and that's pretty much how it goes
This could be true in the RC world, but not in a true competitive market. In my job we look at what other competitors have and try to figure it out. We all use the same carbon shops, but they will never share information. If they did they would loose our company's bussiness. If we got someones elses info then they are probably giving away our information.

I asked Matt at IRCHA what the letters engraved into the tops of his 696 blades were, and he told me that each blade haa a different weight and or location to it. These blades were made to his spec that he had to provide and he test each one to decide what he thinks is the right combination.

I am sure it is a little easier today than 5 years ago when companies were still guessing. But there is a science to it.

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09-14-2011 03:33 AM  6 years agoPost 15
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As to how they are manufactured, most sunglasses are made by Luxottica. Basically all of the major brands are made at the same place. So nothing unusual about those manufacturing practices.

I just flew a set over the weekend that Seldred let me try. They are very quiet and fly great. My intent was to just try them and give them back but I bought them after the first flight. They also either auto very well or I just suddenly got acclimated to my new Logo at that instant.

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09-20-2011 05:04 PM  6 years agoPost 16
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Who sells these blades? I can't find them in stock anywhere.

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09-20-2011 05:38 PM  6 years agoPost 17
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Aero-model.com has them.

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10-18-2011 06:59 PM  6 years agoPost 18
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Hobby Hut has them

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10-31-2011 03:49 AM  6 years agoPost 19
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I can assure you all there was alot of R&D that went into the Rail Blade Line. Matt was designing and investing countless hours in coming up with the perfect set of Blades. Like was mentioned earlier. The Blades he was testing had Letters stamped on them representing the Weight/distribution of weight and Balance.bythe time he came up with the perfect Blade he was at Revision "J" in regards to the 606's. He has been working on these Jewels longer than 2010.. He had been researching this for a while. And for the Record they are nothing like the RT. They May share some of the same characteristics visually they are nothing of the same internally. They are very much worth Trying. I honestly haven't heard one person regret buying or flying them. They are supper quiet but will Bark if you want them to..

Cheers,

Kevin

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11-05-2011 04:45 AM  6 years agoPost 20
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Fun-key is very discrete about blade information. There is no sharing of information between blade designs and there is no rebadging. All molds are unique to each blade.
I had to invest large sums of money in molds to get the Rail Blades project started. The airfoil of the blade is a modified version of an airfoil in the NACA database. The profile was drawn by me in solidworks with no reference data related to Rotortech blades. The cord width, length, span wise CG, and cord wise CG was all selected by me.
To reach the final product I went through three different airfoils, and 20 different CG variations. There were countless hours spent testing each version.
Anyone discounting the countless hours of work required to achieve a successful final product has not actually gone through the process. Educated yourself before discounting someones hard work.

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Matt

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