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08-04-2011 09:21 AM  6 years agoPost 1
nick_onelove

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I've had a lot of fun with the Parkzone UM T-28 Trojan, so I decided to go 3D and get an Eflite UMX Extra 300 3D.

One of my big interests was "hangin' on the prop", but to my dismay I discovered that with a plane in hover, the rudder actually handles lateral motion, rather than the aileron like on a heli. Similarly the ailerons become yaw control.

I was trying to research some kind of mix that would effectively swap the aileron and rudder channels, and I found that what I was I was trying to do was actually a thing: called "Mode 4."

It's an incredibly simple programming change in the system settings menu. I love the DX8!

My hovering is a lot more precise in Mode 4! I don't have to process anything I can just rely on muscle memory from helis. It's pretty bizarre for normal flying though, I'll still fly Mode 2 outside and switch to Mode 4 for precision hovering or hovering indoors.

I know some of you guys fly planks too, just thought I'd share this tip.

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08-04-2011 12:30 PM  6 years agoPost 2
SSN Pru

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so, you switch flight modes while in flight?

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08-04-2011 01:24 PM  6 years agoPost 3
jgunpilot

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You crazy, maverick renegade!

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08-04-2011 02:17 PM  6 years agoPost 4
red_z06

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What do you do for rolling harrier then? It is half way between normal flying and hover.

For rolling harrier, Mode 1 is easiest as you stir the left stick as you stir right stick for piroflip.

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08-04-2011 06:40 PM  6 years agoPost 5
nick_onelove

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Unfortunately it's not like a mix you can toggle on and off, I have to land and turn the transmitter off and back on to switch. Like I said though, the majority of my outdoor flying will stay Mode 2 and I'll just use Mode 4 for precision hovering, especially indoors.

For rolling harriers (attempting them anyway); I think I'll stick with Mode 2, you'd have to switch out the gimbals to use Mode 1.

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08-04-2011 07:05 PM  6 years agoPost 6
Al Austria

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Why not just learn it the standard way? This approach is akin to invert switches of the past.

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08-04-2011 07:40 PM  6 years agoPost 7
nick_onelove

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I'll probably still work on them in Mode 2 when I fly it outside, but the main reason I got this plane was because I saw someone on YouTube seemingly effortlessly hovering one in their tiny living room.

In Mode 4 I can do that. Plus I'd rather hovering a plane sharpen my heli skills rather than teach me a completely different stick configuration.

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08-05-2011 06:09 AM  6 years agoPost 8
JasonJ

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Interesting. I found learning to hover a plane not that difficult and I have also found that I don't have issues switching from heli to plane. It's like the wiring is separate. I have recently gotten into the 3D profiles and just maidened a Sabre 56 last weekend. They are a lot of fun and cheap to fly and crash. Mine has an OS 91 4 stroke on it and it flies like a dream.

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08-05-2011 10:00 PM  6 years agoPost 9
baldgeek

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Interesting idea although not one I'd consider trying.

I'm with Al Austria and JasonJ.

I too fly helis and planes and learnt to hover my planes through practice, especially on the sim. Now I don't even think about the inputs.

I suspect you'll eventually learn to hover in mode 2 and your flights will be far more satisfying when you can mix hovering and other aerobatics in mode 2.

You've already commented that flying the plane normally in mode 4 is bizarre. Is there a danger that getting too used to hovering and trying to fly normally in mode 4 will actually hinder your flying progress?

Congrats though on finding a simple solution that works for you. As long as you're having fun keep at it!

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08-06-2011 04:36 AM  6 years agoPost 10
HeliNerd

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Nick, when I was learning to hover my foamie I did the same thing as when I learned heli's. Imagine you are in it, keep the tail in towards you, and make the stick movements as you were sitting right there in the cockpit. After a couple of flights it just becomes second nature. I can switch between fixed wing and heli's all day long. The more you complicate radio programming, the more likely you will either crash a heli or crash a plane due to confusion on which side everything is on.

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08-06-2011 04:40 AM  6 years agoPost 11
HeliNerd

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Sorry, Duplicate post

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08-06-2011 10:15 PM  6 years agoPost 12
nick_onelove

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Thanks for all the comments and advice everyone, I will keep it all in mind.

When I'm outside I was always fly Mode 2, even when I work on hovering.

But for now Mode 4 is the only way I can hover within the confines of my living room. I'm not worried about that setting my brain up for confusion because its not really like normal flying at all; I never leave that vertical hover position. It's more like a heli, which was my goal from the beginning.

Anyway thanks again for all the response everyone!

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