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08-03-2011 07:15 PM  6 years agoPost 1
Heli-on

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Try it out on the sim, or real life if you're daring. Set the hover point to be at mid-stick. I'm finding values around 60% work awesome. Call me crazy, but it seems to be closer to true zero pitch. Reason I say this is I have a notchy stick center done with magnets, so I know right where dead center is. Its is awesome for doing drops. It doesn't seem to take away from any linearity, either? It must have something to do with the disk having more authority with negative pitch because it's not being corrupted by the tail rotor wash. It definitely gives a more balanced feel.

Try it out and report back with your findings.

[edit: I'm talking about pitch curve setting to do this]

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08-03-2011 08:14 PM  6 years agoPost 2
Dood

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I have a notchy stick center done with magnets
I'm interested in how you did this. A picture would be nice

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08-03-2011 08:22 PM  6 years agoPost 3
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So your saying you have a little pos pitch at zero stick..??

Great idea regarding the mag ctr position. Might be a big hit.

Rick

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08-03-2011 08:42 PM  6 years agoPost 4
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Yeah, a little pos. It just about hovers, maybe not quite. What you're going for is balance between upright and inverted. You'll know when you reach it.

The 1st magnet is 1/8 x 1/16", counter sunk into the plastic part that moves. It's easy to tell where to drill for this, the factory smooth metal piece has a hole already in it. Make sure you're dead center stick when you mark it because it does look off. Don't use heat from a soldering iron to countersink into the plastic, heat kills the magnet. Over size the hole and use epoxy to hold it in place (as close to flush as possible).

A pair of 3/8 x 1/16" magnets on top - held in place with the tape so they can't slide. If a 3rd would fit, I'd try it, but it does not.

The bar is adjusted so it's barely touching and put some lithium grease it. The throttle moves like butter, but has a nice bite at center. I wouldn't say it holds it, but you can release the stick near center and it will spring to it. The right amount of tension seems to be when you can walk around without the stick position moving or flopping around.

Neodymium magnets from rcdude under the Accessories>Magnets section.

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08-03-2011 08:55 PM  6 years agoPost 5
Gyronut

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Great Idea

Rick

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08-03-2011 09:08 PM  6 years agoPost 6
Carey Shurley

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FAI/Contest pilots have been setting hover point at mid stick since the beginning of model helicopters

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08-03-2011 10:50 PM  6 years agoPost 7
spiderco

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I've had my hover point at midstick for 20+ years until recently. Now I fly at -11, 0, 11 (0 at midstick). This way the heli does not "jump" when I switch modes. It didnt take long to get back to smooth flying after the switch.

The climb out is faster inverted even with 0 at midstick. Or at least it feels like it.

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08-03-2011 10:54 PM  6 years agoPost 8
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Would you say you'e feeling a difference as to where the stick is, or is it just not noticable and you're going by what you're eyes are seeing?

For me it makes a difference doing drops and having the stick lock on to true center, that's where I'm getting the zero loading feel on the disk when the heli is perpendicular to the horizon.

Anything with your curve endpoints would be all in your head. It's still has the same amounts of +/- pitch.

Anybody that want's to try this needs to set it for all flight modes so you don't get that jump. Kind of goes without saying, no?

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08-03-2011 11:08 PM  6 years agoPost 9
spiderco

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Not really "feeling" midstick more like "seeing" it with how the heli flies. It does not matter with me where 0 pitch is. If I want to know, I can set the 11X to beep at midstick.

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08-04-2011 01:17 AM  6 years agoPost 10
Swoop

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If I want to know, I can set the 11X to beep at midstick.
Can you set it to beep at any position? That would be good for beginners learning to auto so they know they are giving enough negative.

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08-04-2011 01:22 AM  6 years agoPost 11
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Yes any position.

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