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12-17-2011 09:50 PM  9 years ago
BobOD

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You will come spring.
Under 9lb actually if all goes to plan.
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12-17-2011 10:13 PM  9 years ago
Terrabit

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That with a full tank or an empty tank?
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12-17-2011 10:19 PM  9 years ago
MichiganFlyer

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ok so cant somebody rig up a smoke machine with the same smell as nitro to put in an elec heli and it will be the best of both worlds
Castle tried but they couldn't get the smell right!
Friends don't encourage friends to fly helis! It can cause part shortages.
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12-18-2011 12:15 AM  9 years ago
BobOD

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The goal is under 9 lbs for the last 3 min of flight.Team POP Secret
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12-18-2011 01:05 AM  9 years ago
Band1086

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What HS Bob?
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12-18-2011 02:12 AM  9 years ago
BobOD

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What HS Bob?
Whatever I want.

I'll be trying different gearing to see what combination of pitch and RPM works best.
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12-18-2011 02:14 AM  9 years ago
BobOD

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ok so cant somebody rig up a smoke machine with the same smell as nitro to put in an elec heli
That's EASY.
Just douse your e-heli with Nitro...and wait.
It's just a matter of time.
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01-03-2012 07:33 AM  9 years ago
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BobOD
What HS Bob?
Whatever I want.

I'll be trying different gearing to see what combination of pitch and RPM works best.
I can do the same thing hehe .Only thing different is I don't have to change gearing .

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03-20-2012 01:46 PM  9 years ago
Rogman88

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I like that the expansion of electric power systems is putting it even further ahead of nitro...anyone seen all the new 7S packs coming out for the 750/800 class helis? This can be done easiest with electric, though nitro may make a surge with the new line of 1+ cubic inch motors. I'd just hate to feed one of those things...What 5 flights out of a 30$ gallon?

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03-20-2012 02:51 PM  9 years ago
unclejane

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Holy thread resurrection, Batman.....
But yeah I've been secretly hoping the "big block" engines might help keep electric from totally taking over and being our only option for power systems.

Especially in the upcoming 800 class. I'd hate to see it be 100% electric with no nitro options. I don't know if the OS 105 / YS 120 would be enough power to be satisfactory on a machine that size or not, but if the demand would be there, maybe engine manufacturers would make even bigger engines lol.

>I'd just hate to feed one of those things...What 5 flights out of a 30$ gallon?<

To be honest, even at $100 case + hazmat, my trex 700N nitro flies, like, 9 times as much as my electric (a 700E). It's turning out to be the convenience. I can toss the 700N and a jug of fuel in the truck at a moment's notice, but the E takes at least an hour to prep. And if I get to the field and the wind is over 20kts, bringing my 3 batt packs down to storage charge is a brutal couple of hours on my charger. The jug of nitro, tho, just goes back in the corner with the heli.

I'm fixing to put my 105 in the N over the next couple of days, so it'll be interesting to see what the fuel consumption is like. It'll be nice to have -ish electric-like power but with the convenience of the fuel jug...

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03-20-2012 04:35 PM  9 years ago
BobOD

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Oh man Rog, you had to go dig this up again. Shoot, if anybody feels they got messed up over this topic, you should be this local boy I stuffed a 91 in his Trex 600. OMG it's funny as heck. That crate breaks down like twice a week. I never saw someone wrench a heli so much. Team POP Secret
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05-19-2021 06:40 PM  29 days ago
Band1086

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I went back and read some of this stuff...you guy's had some really funny comments here and some very good information. Bob, I never read your last comment on the modified TR 600, pretty funny. It looks like the hype over heli's has died down a bunch! They are still as much fun as they ever were though.
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05-19-2021 11:00 PM  28 days ago
Rojoalfa

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Thank you for bringing back this excellent topic.

I fly both electric a glow RC helicopters.

The main reason? To enjoy..! As much as I can!

Flying electric, it is like a rooster orgasm. 30 sec... Fast, furious...

Flying glow, it is like a pig orgasm... Half an hour.

No question ask!
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Saludos cordiales,
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05-20-2021 12:10 PM  28 days ago
Richardmid1

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Rojoalfa Flying electric, it is like a rooster orgasm. 30 sec... Fast, furious...

Flying glow, it is like a pig orgasm... Half an hour.
Hahahaha, a good analogy!

I'm prefering nitro at the moment myself. I don't fly very regularly anymore and when I do it's only 1-3 flights so having multiple expensive packs laying there doing nothing plus the need to charge them before flying is a bit of a waste.
60% of the time, it works every time!
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05-20-2021 02:49 PM  28 days ago
Band1086

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I've thought a little about getting a 700 size nitro again, but when I checked on the price of fuel these days, it seems like it's a lot more expensive that before. What is everyone paying for 30% out there now?
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05-21-2021 01:42 AM  27 days ago
Rojoalfa

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Both systems are quite expensive.

If you look for the 700E, you will need two "bricks" Lipo for 60 flights at 4 min per flight in average.

On the other side, if you look for a 700LE nitro, you will need six gallon can for 60 flights at 8 min per flight in average.

At the end, you spend almost same thing.

So, If you go to the field camp to talk and be fooling around there, get the electric. Like the rooster, you probably need one or two "shakes".

But, if you want to fly a lot, get the glow helicopter. A pig orgasms is more pleasant and long lasting...

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05-21-2021 07:38 AM  27 days ago
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I converted all my nitro machines over to electric. I got sick of trying to find the fuel, the smell of the machines running, the vibration destroying scale parts, cleaning the oil residue off and the un-scale like smoke pouring out of the back. I never regretted giving up nitro!!

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05-22-2021 11:03 PM  25 days ago
Band1086

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Good post thank you. In another thread I have, some are willing to tell what they are paying for fuel these days. Helitom gave an excellent post saying he's paying only $27 a gallon for 15%. At that price it's still a reasonable cost per flight. There are definitely advantages to flying nitro such as flght time and lighter weight. Can someone tell me how much their TR700N weighs with half tank of fuel? And what head speed are the nitro 700's running now? Someone said in a previous post that they hoped E's would not take over completely and I wholeheartedly agree with that now. Those little IC engines are cool, there's no two way's about it. I wish 30% wasn't so ridicules price wise though. A decade ago I fought hard, too hard, arguing for the E's. I see now it wasn't necessary.
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05-25-2021 01:44 PM  23 days ago
Band1086

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Thanks all for having posted on this thread. The positives and negatives of either power system have been well debated here and their was much humor to go along with it. It was a great discussion and everyone stayed away from rudeness and getting too upset over their preferred choice. This thread is worth reading again for it's educational value and for it's humor. The fact that this subject had so many replies and views shows it's very important to pilots and enthusiasts.
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06-10-2021 01:21 PM  7 days ago
Richardmid1

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dgoss999 I converted all my nitro machines over to electric. I got sick of trying to find the fuel, the smell of the machines running, the vibration destroying scale parts, cleaning the oil residue off and the un-scale like smoke pouring out of the back. I never regretted giving up nitro!!
Sure for scale electric is the way to go. You get longer flight time, the batteries life span will be much longer, it's cleaner and a more scale sound.
60% of the time, it works every time!
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