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06-05-2011 03:32 AM  8 years ago
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Eco8gator

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Best Speed Blades (that are also good in 3D)
So, what do you guys use.

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06-05-2011 03:35 AM  8 years ago
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CY FBL 690's

Seen today that Matt Botos has some new ones coming too. Can't wait to give them a shot, specifically designed for FBL from the ground up is what the advert said. No release date or costs listed. Until then I'd say Radix is the overall favorite for me with 690's giving the smack when needed instead of the 710's. Just my humble $.02
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06-05-2011 07:03 AM  8 years ago
helicraze

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You cannot have both, best for speed radix 710MM FBL, best for all round and 3D is normal 710MM radix 185G
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06-05-2011 07:25 AM  8 years ago
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Question being best speed blades thats also good for 3d i can tell you that you can pretty much do both with anything from 690 to 713's. if youre inclined to more serious 3d go for 690's, speed 713's.
I have both and fly hard 3d as well as speed flight on both, although my 690 machine is setup more towards 3d and the other for speed what i can do with one i can do with the other, thanks to v5.1 vbar, you can make a longer blade snappier with paddle sim, want more pop, add some pitchpump under the swash menu.
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06-05-2011 12:13 PM  8 years ago
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On my 2009 TDR I flew Radix 710, 710FBL, 710FAI, Rotortech 720SG(FAI), and Edge 713FBL, The Rotortech were IMO the fastest (based on the purely un-scientific method of observing the resulting vertical climb) but at 240 gram were IMO a bit too heavy for the M4 blade bolts. In the end I settled on the standard Radix 710 as they were the best overall feel and not much slower.

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06-06-2011 01:11 AM  8 years ago
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WHAT!!!

The TDR has 4mm bolts too. I thought the Joker was the only one.

Ill try some radix 710mm blades.

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06-06-2011 03:58 AM  8 years ago
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WHAT!!!

The TDR has 4mm bolts too. I thought the Joker was the only one.
I have a Joker head and the blade grips look to be the same part as the TDR.

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06-06-2011 03:42 PM  8 years ago
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The Joker and Henseleit started together. Jan and Gerd (From Minicopter)came together with a new head with a different flybar system. Gerd started with the Electric helicopters and Jan with the Nitros.
How do I know that? I got one of the first Jokers in USA. When I had to use 32 NIcads to fly it
When Ron complainted about DHL, I wanted to mention that when I got my Joker from Germany It took 5 days from Germany to my front Door. Service used was UPS International.
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06-07-2011 07:03 AM  8 years ago
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On my 2009 TDR I flew Radix 710, 710FBL, 710FAI, Rotortech 720SG(FAI), and Edge 713FBL, The Rotortech were IMO the fastest (based on the purely un-scientific method of observing the resulting vertical climb) but at 240 gram were IMO a bit too heavy for the M4 blade bolts. In the end I settled on the standard Radix 710 as they were the best overall feel and not much slower.
Danny, your RotorTech 720SGs were 240g? I just got some of the same blades, although they are RotorTech 720SG *F3C* -- but maybe that's what you meant (F3C instead of FAI) and they're 225g each. I'm planning to try them at 2050 to 2100 or so. Hope to get some flights with them using the Scorpion 4530-540 LE this week. Should be interesting.

I also have some RotorTech Scott Gray 710 3D blades but haven't tried them yet. Anyone have experience with that blade? I've heard from one pilot that they have some serious pop and agility -- and my guess is that they'd be plenty fast too. I guess some blade testing is in order this weekend.
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06-07-2011 11:12 AM  8 years ago
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Danny, your RotorTech 720SGs were 240g? I just got some of the same blades, although they are RotorTech 720SG *F3C* -- but maybe that's what you meant (F3C instead of FAI) and they're 225g each.
Yes, these are the same blades. The weight can vary quite a bit from batch to batch. I have flown the 710SG 3D blades on other FBL machines and they work very well. It's funny, now that there are "FBL" blades on the market some of the best flying blades from a few years ago are often over looked.

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06-07-2011 04:38 PM  8 years ago
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From the 2011 TDR manual; "Some hints for high-speed flights", page 43:

"Be careful and have a look that the rotor does not get more than 2300 revs and that the blades have not more weight than 200g."

Guessing that the limiting factor is the 4mm bladebolt..
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06-07-2011 10:45 PM  8 years ago
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No more so the thrust bearing life i think
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06-07-2011 10:50 PM  8 years ago
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Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Jan is pretty specific in the manual that he doesn't recommend anything over 1900rpm. Spinning 2300rpm is insanely damaging to the bird and more along the lines of suicide. Don't fly that one close to anyone or above anything expensive. Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.
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06-09-2011 03:54 AM  8 years ago
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Found a set of blades...

I have had GREAT luck with a set of V2 Blades on my TREX 600. I found a set of V2 700mm blades at the LHS with flash tips. The span wise CG is great and the blade is as stiff as it gets. This these should bite the air hard. The weight is about 187g. I cant wait to try them out!

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06-09-2011 05:56 AM  8 years ago
whiskey

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I have tried v2 V blades on my TDR
They are great for 3d but get a little pitchy in Fff. I believe it is because of their blunt leading edge.
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06-09-2011 04:43 PM  8 years ago
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A little pitchy is ok.

I tried the Edge flybared 693 blades and those were very pitchy for me. The Flybarless 693 tracked well in FFF and were good for 3D, they just were not as fast as I would like.

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06-09-2011 06:08 PM  8 years ago
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well if you dont mind that
Then I really like the 710 vblades on it. alot of pop!
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