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06-03-2011 11:50 PM  9 years ago
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Razmo

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Logo 600SE Question
Guys,

I picked up a 600SE, Kontronik Jive 80+HV, Pyro 700-52, x3 Outrage BL9080 for cyclic and an Outrage BL9088 for the tail.

Question is, I'm trying to determine whether I would prefer 603mm or 690mm on the mains. Your suggestions would be helpful.

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Raz
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06-04-2011 12:04 AM  9 years ago
dansvt

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I use the Radix 690s FBL on mine. You need to check what pinion you have if you are going to use the Pyro 700-52 motor. The way to go on the 600 SE is with Pyro 700-45 and 11 tooth pinion.
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06-04-2011 12:17 AM  9 years ago
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I pulled this setup from RC Heli Mag, however it wasn't the 600SE, it was the 600 using Edge 603. Didn't mention headspeed used, or pinion selection at least not that I recall.

Have you tried using 600-603? Also, are you running 95mm tail blades?

Raz
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06-04-2011 12:22 AM  9 years ago
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Actually, looks like I have a 14t Pinion. I'm now remembering I picked this up, which was actually suggested by the guy who wrote the article, but I also recall him not being 100% sure..

Anyhow, this setup is based on running 603s on the mains....Shouldn't matter, right?

Raz
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06-04-2011 12:24 AM  9 years ago
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No I havent tried 600 size blades. The way to go on the 600 SE is with 690s and 105s on the tail. Thats the most common and best set up. The 600 3D uses the 600 size blades. I hope this helps.
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06-04-2011 12:26 AM  9 years ago
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depends on your flying style.
690 for floaty big air
600 for smack

I just went from 690 to 620. Its suppose to be the bomb yo.
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06-04-2011 12:29 AM  9 years ago
dansvt

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It does matter. You can probably get away with using that motor. I'm not sure what pinion you would need to use. I don't think it will work as well as the Pyro 700-45 with 11 tooth pinion though.
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06-04-2011 12:36 AM  9 years ago
dansvt

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If you are using 10s batt set up you can use the 700-52. If you are using 12s you need to use the 700-45.
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06-04-2011 01:16 AM  9 years ago
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12S = 400 to 450 motor, higher KV = shorter blades or else the rpm will be too high. With the 520 kv you can go to 640 blades on a 11 tooth pinion.Team Synergy, Rail blades, Team Scorpion, V-Team
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06-05-2011 04:49 AM  9 years ago
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According to the RH headspeed calc, it looks as if an 11T pinion is the way to go on 10S with the 700-52. Basically, it looks to provide comparable headspeed to that of 12S with the 700-45.

I figure I'll see less pop, but longer run times on 10S with the 700-52, sound about right?

What sort of run times are you guys seeing on 12S, 700-45, 11T Pinion and 690's? Say Mild 3D...

Raz
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06-05-2011 04:54 AM  9 years ago
dansvt

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I'm getting five and a half min.
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06-06-2011 04:24 PM  8 years ago
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Thanks Dan, how about your headspeed?

I don't recall if the article mentioned headspeed, but they claimed 10min+ piloting with mild 3D. Mild 3D is of course a bit grey, but I assume it means not pushing it..

If there are any guys running a 10S setup, please chime in..

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Raz
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06-06-2011 05:17 PM  8 years ago
Razz

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I'm interested also. Seriously looking at building a Logo 600SE. I'm planning on using my TP 5S 45C 5000 packs, and a Scorpion 4035-560 motor. I just sold a Furion 6 FBL airframe(was getting 7.5 minutes of flight time with the large batts). The added rotor disc of the SE should support the extra weight of the 5000 packs, 675G ea.

Iv'e flown many helis over the yrs., but no Logos. I was hoping for a smaller logo 700 from Mikado, so the 600SE may be the one for now. I'm currently flying a Compass 6HV FBL(wonderful), so I'm looking for a larger, big air 3D disc heli. I think it would make a nice home for my electronics, batts. and motor.

Brian Rasmussen
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06-06-2011 06:44 PM  8 years ago
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Iv'e flown many helis over the yrs., but no Logo
The regular Logo 600 is the best in my opinion.
If you are into Autos and big maneuvers and speed the SE is good for it.
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06-06-2011 08:07 PM  8 years ago
dansvt

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I'm was getting 5-1/2 minutes at 1900 HS 3D flying. At 2200 HS I'm getting 5 min with 690 blades. I have a 600 SE with Pyro 700-45, 11 tooth pinion , Jive 80HV and TP G6 4400 MA batts.
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06-06-2011 08:17 PM  8 years ago
dansvt

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Razz those 5000 MA batts are about half a pound heavier than the 4400. You will only lose 30-45 secs of flight time. This is why I'm using the 4400 MA.
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06-06-2011 10:23 PM  8 years ago
Razz

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Thanks,

I was planning on selling my Jive 80HV, and buying a 120...Mr. Dahl mentioned that some have good luck with the 80, some don't depending on flying style. If I were semi aggressive with the SE, with good collective skills...will the 80 be enough?? I like big smooth acros, but I also like some quicker 3D with full use of collective range.

Thanks,
Brian
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06-06-2011 10:42 PM  8 years ago
dansvt

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I'm using the Jive 80HV in my Logo 600SE with no problems at all. I think it also depends on the motor you are using. I have a friend using the jive 120 and Align 530 kv motor and his Jive shut off twice due to over heating. We have the same set up exept I run a Pyro 700-52 and TP G6 4400 65C batts and he uses TP 4400 45C. He flies harder than me, he has flown my heli on several occasions with no problems.
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06-07-2011 02:46 AM  8 years ago
Razz

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Thanks,

I never had any problems with the Furion running the Scorpion 560 and 620 blades, but running the larger blades would create more load for the motor. I do run a heat sink also.

I wish Knotronik would come out with a firmware upgrade to allow a "throttle hold" function. I really like the Kontronic electrics, but I miss doing all those 'acro autos'...just too afraid I'll goof and not be able to 'bail out'.

Does anyone know if Kontronik is working on an 'auto mode" for the Jives? I may have to run a Vbar and a 120 HobbyKing ESC, but I really like the beastX!

Brian
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