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06-03-2011 03:37 AM  9 years ago
hal

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Rcsavager, i totally agree, well said. I wouldn't deal with a guy like that at all. If he can't be reasonable and at least respectful without coming off like a butt. I wouldn't shop there EVER.
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06-03-2011 05:14 AM  9 years ago
tasmanian devil

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JBeech is in the business of selling hobby products to the public.WHY should he care what the motor gets put in?IT'S STILL A SALE,YOU TOOL.
I know I'll never buy anything from you,idiot.
I do'nt crash,I just rearrange parts.
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06-03-2011 05:43 AM  9 years ago
Raffy

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When you advertise and won't sell for your self interest is BAD BUSINESS!
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06-03-2011 06:08 AM  9 years ago
GyroFreak

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Let's see, do I make $18-20 bucks selling him unobtanium, e.g. by selling him a motor nobody else has . . . and risk losing an e-conversion Pantera sale? Are you kidding?
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Sounds reasonable. If he sells conversion kits he has the right to reserve his stock for his conversions kits.
I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?
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06-03-2011 06:09 AM  9 years ago
VKGT

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@RC Savager........ It's not easy to run a business
I run my own business and do quite well making sure everyone I talk to is treated with respect and the best service I can offer. I can also spell other members' names as a bonus. I'm riled by this jerk so don't take offense but if you're going to choose sides at least spell my name right.
It's not that I'm trying to pick sides, I'm just trying to be reasonable. There's always two sides and after my experience of working at a hobby shop part time for a few years, I understand that people in this hobby can overreact and cause a cascade effect with some transactions...it works both ways.

Sorry for misspelling your name, sometimes us military folk skip over the stupid ****.
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06-03-2011 06:26 AM  9 years ago
honda411

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haahah RC Savager is fricken awesome, love the responses. I couldnt do it any better.

Only if i could fly to florida and grab the motor he has (even though he told me he did have one, then changed his mind and said he didnt, and now does) and shove it right where the sun dont shine.

I work in customer service, and this is NOT how you treat ANY customer that walks through your front doors.

I also have an audacity(tiger 50 nitro) which is a piece of s**t, and all plastic (very cheaply made). And i find it extremely funny John Beech, that at the very beginning we all were given another forum that shows you wouldnt sell a lousy nut to a customer. A NUT!!!!!! come on man! seriously? a nut! You need to take the tampon out of your cooch and stop actin like a woman.

And for the few that are agreeing with this douche, probably bought one of his junkers, and want to stick up for him.

John! this is for you. Just look at everyone that you have against you, and how many views alone there is on this topic. ALL of them you lost as potential customers..... and like i said before; you lose 1 customer/ you lose 10. I think we have already met that number, plus more. AND my job still isn't over!
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06-03-2011 06:50 AM  9 years ago
GyroFreak

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And for the few that are agreeing with this douche, probably bought one of his junkers, and want to stick up for him.
I have never bought anything from him, but his desire to keep his stock for his conversion kits is reasonable.
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You need to take the tampon out of your cooch and stop actin like a woman.
I think you are the one acting like a spoiled little brat and throwing fits and calling names.
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and shove it right where the sun dont shine.
Threatening violence isn't something you should spell out on RR. Bad
policy.
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I work in customer service, and this is NOT how you treat ANY customer that walks through your front doors.
That could simply mean counter service at a fast food joint.
I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?
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06-03-2011 06:51 AM  9 years ago
swoop_g

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I only have two words: FALSE ADVERTISEMENT!!!!!
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06-03-2011 08:01 AM  9 years ago
Parsifal

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Mountain out of a bloody molehill. What a whinger. Buy the damned thing somewhere else and stop with this hissy fit already. What the hell is wrong with you? He didn't sell it to you so you post a big thread on a public forum. Not right.

Was there any form of deception here?? was any money taken dubiously? otherwise, man up.
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06-03-2011 11:48 AM  9 years ago
red_z06

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This is what I found.

Motor

Honda,

Is this what you saw when you visited the site?

Below was in big print (rather than fine print).
Please note: these are offered as part of the e-converison, not for sale separately
www.JustinJee.com
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06-03-2011 12:02 PM  9 years ago
tim tompkins

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Great link! This proves the whole thing was a lie. The motor was and is not for sale by itself. These two big shots have told a story to us and have shouted foul. TimT
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06-03-2011 02:55 PM  9 years ago
Rogman88

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I'm in fact 40 years old and would take great pleasure in stuffing your head as far up your ass as my arm can reach
Son of a Beech!

Anyway, if the ad says for E-Pantera customers only, then it is not false advertisement. I understand where the seller is coming from. If he only has a limited number of motors to go with a limited number of kits, then he may be stuck with a kit that has no motor. Many companies require a minimum order of 1000$ dollars from them, thus putting Mr. Beech in a tough spot if he needs to sell the kit but has no motor for it.

I personally would have handled it more cordially, but to each his own! He can sell to whom he wants too and the buyer can choose from hundreds of power systems. I would have just powered my heli with a different system and said to heck with this seller.
High Voltage just works better
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06-03-2011 03:22 PM  9 years ago
Eury

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I didn't realize that the page says it is only available with the Pantera kit. In that case, OP you are wrong. It clearly says it, and now you are Acting like this. Ridiculous.Nick Crego

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06-03-2011 03:34 PM  9 years ago
RCSavager

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It didn't say that when I went to the website as if it did I would not have called looking for what I thought was available. In any case, I'm washing my hands of the subject. Best of luck to all involved, sorry I got bent in public but I'm keeping my comments as they stand and will pay for my actions if it's deemed appropriate. To edit/remove them would just take away from the situation. Everyone spoke their peace here.

Note: I didn't come here to support a local. I called over 6 shops yesterday looking for motor options and one was to this guy. After the results of my call I did a search on RR and found this. I posted how I felt. I've received PMs from the store owner explaining the situation and apologizing for how I was handled. At this point I'm keeping further comments to myself, extricating myself from all involved and going to find my motor this week. Sorry for the drama on my part all. Happy flying.
Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.
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06-03-2011 03:36 PM  9 years ago
budz

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say....
if your local hobby shop has two combo kits of the brand of heli that you have and at the moment does not have stock for the item that you need (like an electric motor) will you force them to pull the motor out of their combo kit to sell to you? what if after selling it to you, two customers comes in wanting to buy the two combo kit? then your local hobby shop can only sell one coz they pulled out the motor from the other one.

yes, they always say that the customer is always right. but it is the responsibility of the business owner/manager to take the interest of his business first.

if you notice, when you eat in a buffet, there's always a sign that says WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE. and if i am the one they're refusing service, then i'll take my business elsewere.
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06-03-2011 03:36 PM  9 years ago
Heli-on

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Yup, all you have to do is read the words. The challenge lies in being able to comprehend them. If that doesn't work I guess you can always resort to slander and violence.
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06-03-2011 03:48 PM  9 years ago
Phaedrus

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Whether or not the web page had that information on it at the time is immaterial in my mind. If you called and were told that is the policy, then that ends it. I think it's a dumb policy, but in the end people still generally have the right to refuse service, or sell their products as they see fit. The market can then decide if their decisions make business sense. I think most people are going to see it as a poor policy and thus not do business with him. But as long as he is not violating some law, like not selling to minorities, or women, Catholics, etc. then he can pretty decide who he sells stuff to. But again, i do not agree with his actions, but I do think he has a right to conduct his business as he wants to within the limits of the law.

I can see the call going like this:

RC Dude: "Hi, I want to buy the Scorpion motor."

Beech: "sorry, I do not sell to anyone except a customer doing an conversion as part of the complete conversion package."

RC Dude: "WTF?!?!?! That's TOTAL BS!! YOU MUST SELL TO ME YOU STUPID SOB..... I'LL GET ON RR AND RUIN YOU"

Beech: click

No matter how it went, the juvenile, and border line criminal, threats of physical violence have no place on a forum like this. They only make the person writing them look like a jerk.
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06-03-2011 04:03 PM  9 years ago
whiskey

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Well said. Buy a different motor(there are lots of them) and dont ruin someones business over not being able to get what you want and a hang-up. Poor taste and immature in my opinion.
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06-03-2011 04:20 PM  9 years ago
Rogman88

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The tide has turned...High Voltage just works better
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06-03-2011 04:29 PM  9 years ago
tadawson

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Frankly, if this guy can get the motors, he ought to seriously consider getting some for separate sale . . . If nothing else, this thread should have shown that there is a demand . . . Reserve what is needed for his kits/conversions, and sell others loose . . . and everybody wins!

- Tim
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