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05-31-2011 05:27 PM  9 years ago
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bkervaski

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Futaba CGY750 v1.10 Released!
Piro Comp! (and some other really cool stuff)

http://downloads.hobbico.com/softwa..._10_ENG_web.pdf

http://downloads.hobbico.com/softwa...GY750_v1_10.zip

Note: Rotational Equalization = Pirouette Compensation (Piro Comp)

Confirmed: The update will not overwrite your current settings but you should check everything after any update on any system.

To enable Piro Comp (Rotational Equalization) just access the Swashset Basic Menu and turn "ROT. Equa" to "ON" and then go to the next screen, "Equa. Dir", at which point your swash plate will lock at an angle. Once it's locked at an angle, rotate your heli 90 degrees and the swashplate should be at the same angle relative to you in which it started. If it's not, change the "Equa. Dir" to "Reverse", check again. That's it, done! Super simple.

Watch at YouTube

Update: Phase Equalizer - The Phase Equalizer should be disabled during initial setup. If necessary, it can be used to further optimize cyclic inputs during pirouettes. If you feel your cyclic inputs are leading or lagging, you can enable the Phase Equalizer and its supporting settings to correct. (See detailed post by Brian Bremer on page 4 of this thread)

Update: First Flight - Very nice!!! Really locked in feel and no lag, the Rotational Equalization (Piro Comp) makes a obvious difference in the way the heli flies. I was doing inverted piros just inches off the deck with no drift and no corrections. Great job Futaba! I can't wait for the weekend so I can wear it out!

Tips!

* Some of us run really low AIL/ELE gains in Throttle Hold to give that "decayed" feel we're used to on flybarred helis. With Rotational Equalization (Piro Comp) enabled, you may get a wobble during autos. Just increase your Throttle Hold AIL/ELE gain up a few points until it's gone.

* Be sure to set your ROT.His to 16 which is supposed to be the default, if you've never set it the value is 0. Minimum value is 4.
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05-31-2011 05:56 PM  9 years ago
Ben-T-Spindle

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I just got it. It does look to be a lot more complicated than I expected.

Does it save the previous settings or does everything get set back to default?

What do I have to adjust if it is now flying ok but I just want it to hold pirouettes better? I have an EP helicopter with no governor.

... BTS
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05-31-2011 06:03 PM  9 years ago
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The update updates but does not overwrite your current set up. It would still be wise to jot down any fine tuning just in case something were to not go as exprected. As with any firmware update, ALWAYS CONFIRM CORRECT OPERATION POST UPDATING!

You won't have to go back and change anything with respect to the rotational optimization, but there is another VERY useful feature in the update called I gain. By adjsting this number, you will be able to further improve upon the way the system holds the model tracks and holds lines. For the most part you will be able to increase that value without really needing to decrease any of the overall cyclic gains, but it's OK if you need to tweak them down just a bit. The nice thing about the I gain feature is that it improves the attributes that have often been achived by running the AVCS damp values higher without creating some of the more aggressive characteristics that go along with higher AVCS damp values. The overall sensivity of the I gain is pretty broad, so don't expect 1% increment changes to have large effects as they do with AVCS damp changes.

Ben Minor
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05-31-2011 06:06 PM  9 years ago
rstacy

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It keeps the previous settings but be smart and safe and check it any way.

Enter the head speed in governor section even if you aren't using it.

Turn PhaseEqu on
Turn RotEqua on
Check EquaDir for proper direction
Rot His - 16 worked best for us
I gain default setting works well. We have gone as high as 50.

Go fly
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05-31-2011 06:18 PM  9 years ago
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Very pleased to see this. My 750 came on Saturday and the interface is due today. I'll be pulling a Vbar 5.1 pro to try it out, either in my Furion or ENV. Adding I gain makes it sound like my Gyrobot experience will be handy, that's one of the parameters that it had. I'd really like the 750 to meet my expectations, I hate having to use the computer with my Vbar.Nick Crego

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05-31-2011 06:39 PM  9 years ago
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The update is very easy ... Just hold down Mode "+" when powering up the unit to put it in update mode and run the Update.exe that's in the zip file you downloaded, takes about 90 seconds.
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05-31-2011 07:02 PM  9 years ago
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Best of all, NO credit card info needed!
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05-31-2011 07:43 PM  9 years ago
rstacy

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Its free???
No way!!!
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05-31-2011 07:46 PM  9 years ago
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you get what you pay for....
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05-31-2011 07:49 PM  9 years ago
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I was wondering how a free upgrade would be spun in to a negative!
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05-31-2011 07:49 PM  9 years ago
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sorry for the troll post
I did put a happy face after it though
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05-31-2011 07:50 PM  9 years ago
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05-31-2011 07:51 PM  9 years ago
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I was wondering how a free upgrade would be spun in to a negative!
lol, no kidding.

If anyone would feel better about paying for the update let me know and I'll send you my PayPal info.
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05-31-2011 07:53 PM  9 years ago
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two 700n's are ready to go for tonight, if they dont fly well they are getting parted out. This is it futaba, performance better blow my skirt off or else.KDS Agile 7.2/5.5 Chase 360 - SkyHero Spyder/Spy/Little Spyder
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05-31-2011 07:56 PM  9 years ago
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Going to test the ENV this afternoon with the update. I actually like the way the unit feels already but very much looking forward to piro comp without the lag, hopefully Futaba pulled it off.
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05-31-2011 07:58 PM  9 years ago
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I can't download the files, guess the server is overloaded?
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05-31-2011 08:02 PM  9 years ago
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nope, working fineKDS Agile 7.2/5.5 Chase 360 - SkyHero Spyder/Spy/Little Spyder
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05-31-2011 09:00 PM  9 years ago
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Installation of the CGY750 firmware update was simple. So is the programing which looks harder on paper than it is when you push the buttons.

The only hard part was getting the CIU-2 set up on my computer. That wasn't Futaba's fault it is simply my punishment for owning a computer with Windows Vista on it!

Jack
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05-31-2011 09:39 PM  9 years ago
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may be a stupid question , but reading from the instructions regarding removing a lead to plug in a batt
can i just power up the unit as normal but without the tx, as i have no spare batt and power up through my reciever regulator ?
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05-31-2011 09:45 PM  9 years ago
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@spurdy - Yes, you can.

The CGY750 is rated high voltage so you can just plug your lipo into it and then your CIU-2 and do the update.

Or, just unplug your S.Bus cable and then plug the CIU-2 in and do it that way. Either will work (I did both, updated multiple units).

The trick with the power is to be holding the MODE "+" down when powering up to put the unit into "Update" mode. It's obvious, it will say on the display when it's ready for the update.
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