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Illinois Legislature Passes Immigrant 'Dream Act'; Quinn Will Sign It
Illinois Legislature Passes Immigrant 'Dream Act'; Quinn Will Sign It

Published : Monday, 30 May 2011

Springfield, Ill. - The children of immigrants, both legal and illegal, would be able to obtain private college scholarships and enroll in Illinois state savings programs under legislation approved Monday.

A 61-53 vote in the Illinois House sent the measure to Gov. Pat Quinn's desk because it already passed the state Senate. Quinn said in a statement that he looked forward to signing it.

Supporters praised the legislation as a much-needed way to offer financial help to undocumented immigrants who graduate from Illinois high schools and want to continue their studies in college but can't afford it.

The Illinois Dream Act would create a panel to raise private money for college scholarships and let the children of immigrants join programs that help them invest money and save for college.

"These students deserve an opportunity. They work hard. We send them through grade school, we send them through high school, then we slam a door in their face and say `Oh well, all the hard work is for nothing. You can't go to college,"' said state Rep. Edward Acevedo, D-Chicago.

To qualify for the college savings pool, students must have a Social Security number or taxpayer identification number. Scholarship recipients must have at least one immigrant parent and the student must have attended school in Illinois for at least three years.

Carla Navoa, a 22-year-old student at the University of Illinois at Chicago who is in the country illegally, lobbied for the bill because it will help others like her pay for college. She said she currently isn't enrolled in college because of the financial stress on her family with a younger sister in college, too.

"Having access to this Dream Fund would really help us," Navoa said.

Opponents have criticized the legislation as improper because it provides benefits that could help people who violate immigration laws. They also have complained it's confusing because of proposed federal legislation by the same name that would give some illegal immigrants a path to citizenship.

The Illinois Dream Act has no impact on a person's immigration status and it doesn't offer a path to citizenship.

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/new...am-act-20110530

My Comments: They are setting aside their own llaw abiding citizens in favor of those that break the law and enter our country illegally at the law abiding citizens cost. Even though the article say its privately funded, I think we all know which way that will end up. We are quickly going from a nation of laws to a nation of chaos with a government working "against" its own citizens. That is just wrong !!

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05-31-2011 06:00 AM  9 years ago
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I don't believe it's possible to get a SS number if you're here illegally. The article also states that the funding is private, so I don't see how taxpayers would be affected. steve.
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05-31-2011 06:09 AM  9 years ago
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I don't believe it's possible to get a SS number if you're here illegally. The article also states that the funding is private, so I don't see how taxpayers would be affected. steve.
Just simply passing a law like this tells me just who that funding is going to eventually cost Steve. Its a politicians "Feel Good" legislation. Thats all it is.

Giving very obvious law breakers special consideration goes against everything a law abiding nation stands for and simply encourages more of it. That may be a bit idealistic. But, is passing legislation giving special consideration to illegals a bit idealistic?
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05-31-2011 06:45 AM  9 years ago
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I don't believe it's possible to get a SS number if you're here illegally. The article also states that the funding is private, so I don't see how taxpayers would be affected. steve.
Actually the scholarships are to cover the costs of education of the "student." What a student pays to a college is only a part of the cost of education. The rest of the cost is paid by the "taxpayer."

As for as a SS number goes for an illegal, the government has set up a way for anybody to get a Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) from the IRS. This is not associated with the SS department but it uses the same format xxx-xx-xxxx as the social security card.

This is a legal number and is open to anyone, legal, illegal, terrorist, or plain nut job.

From the government's web site:
An ITIN, or Individual Taxpayer Identification Number, is a tax processing number only available for certain nonresident and resident aliens, their spouses, and dependents who cannot get a Social Security Number (SSN). It is a 9-digit number, beginning with the number "9", formatted like an SSN (NNN-NN-NNNN).

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small...d=96696,00.html
Of course the FAQs are written in English and SPANISH. I don't know why they bother with English.

As far as getting a SS number, our government has installed a work-a-round for those illegals to get a legal SS number and here it is from the government's web site:
If you are not authorized by DHS to work in the United States, you can get a Social Security number only if you can prove you need it for a valid non-work reason.That might happen, for example, if a state or federal law requires you to have a Social Security number to obtain benefits to which you have already established entitlement.

If you need a number for tax purposes and you are not authorized to work in the United States, you can apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Visit IRS in person or call the IRS toll-free number, 1-800-TAXFORM (1-800-829-3676), and request Form W-7, Application For An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number.

If a business or government agency asks you for a Social Security number and you are not authorized to work in the United States, ask if they can identify you in some other way. In most cases, you will be able to get the service or license you need without a Social Security number.

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10096.html
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05-31-2011 02:48 PM  9 years ago
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this from the state that has one of the highest unfunded public union retirement debts and is one of the top 5 in the country in state debt. Way to go Illinois. Encourage more illegals to flock to your borders.
Geez, when is this crap going to stop???
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06-01-2011 11:45 PM  9 years ago
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ya'll seem to think the Gov doesnt know just what these -lame brain schemes really mean. How do you change a country? You attack it in its economy, moral ethics, traditions, and yes laws and belief system. Invalidate our immigration laws ( USA will NEVER pass a strict Immigration bill EVER! I dont see it) Its not the illegals taht are the real problems and my part of country is over run already...Its US as a people not stopping it!

Who says we cant deport every last law breaker within 6 months to a year?? We could but we want their votes instead.
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06-02-2011 02:14 AM  9 years ago
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I couldnt afford college so i took out loans. Let them do the same. Why arent these people trying as hard to put deserving naturally born and legal americans through college?Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!
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06-02-2011 02:30 AM  9 years ago
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I couldnt afford college so i took out loans. Let them do the same. Why arent these people trying as hard to put deserving naturally born and legal americans through college?
Well, that should be the question our leaders should be asking themselves and their constituents demand of them.

But, very unfortunately, thats obviously not the case.

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06-02-2011 03:14 AM  9 years ago
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You guys are correct. This state is really in bad shape. Government reform is needed badly.
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