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05-14-2011 02:07 PM  7 years agoPost 1
T-heli

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South-Africa

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Hi,

o.k from 1 to 6. 1 is best 6 is worst.
where would you rank the total g in terms of reliability, robustness and programibility,features and updates. we are comparing it with:

futaba gy750
vbar
skookum
align 3g

and

beastx

I can get a total g at a fair price, but then again i might as well go with vbar.

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05-14-2011 02:09 PM  7 years agoPost 2
Ronald Thomas

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Gainesville, Fl, USA

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Oh boy, here we go

Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!

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05-14-2011 03:21 PM  7 years agoPost 3
T-heli

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South-Africa

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I Know I know, the dark lair of this topic goes deep and beyond of what even i would dare to walk upon, however just one or two opinions, i have heard about them all, but where does total g fit into the picture, no one seems to give a concrete opinion compared to the other systems on this one. i'm not looking for a multithread that spans 30 pages

does the total g have the features vbar does and if not will it have it in future, answer me that and we could maybe just stop there....

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05-14-2011 03:27 PM  7 years agoPost 4
Steff Giguere

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St-Eustache, Quebec, Canada

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I have tried the Total-G, I thought it was pretty good, but not up to par compared to my V-Bars. Remember Mikado has been doing this for many years, they have thousands of every day normal pilots flying it, got the bugs out of it a long time ago. Total-G have been on the market for only around 1 year, the system is great put the software in the module still needs some work.

Team Synergy, Rail blades, Team Scorpion, V-Team

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05-14-2011 03:34 PM  7 years agoPost 5
GetToDaChopper

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Las Vegas , NV

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say a 5 and no system has ALL the bugs out of it !
All software has bugs in it, no matter who writes it, no matter how big the company behind it, no matter how much they test it. It's actually impossible even in principle to be sure a non-trivial piece of software is completely bug-free (the Halting Problem)

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05-14-2011 03:58 PM  7 years agoPost 6
Ben-T-Spindle

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Central Illinois

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I think that the top 3 are about the same

Skookum
Futaba CGY
Vbar

The Skookum does have self-leveling and GPS but you pay more for that.
The CGY has more vibration tolerance.

Next best
Beastx
And maybe the TotalG.

Last would be Align 3G

... BTS

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05-14-2011 04:34 PM  7 years agoPost 7
Jgatorman

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Birmingham, AL

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If the total G is set up correctly my self and others find it extremely hard to beat. A very close friend of mine flys both the total G and the Vbar on identical heli's and he says the total G wins hands down not even a close second and he is flying at an extemely high level. So high in fact he is looking at a sponsership shortly. Initially he liked the Vbar better but after delving into the total G he found it to fly much more solid. As for myself I have no issues but to be honest it is the only one I have owned and my personal skill set does not allow me to properly critique it so I have to take the his opinon and he has not steered me wrong yet. Not to mention the unparalleld customer service of CYE. Try to contact the designers of any other fbl unit and you will see for yourself Curtis and Brian are always available via email for assitance.

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05-14-2011 05:39 PM  7 years agoPost 8
GetToDaChopper

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Las Vegas , NV

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i have to say on that note, Art Skookum has always been quick to help me with what ever the prob may be, once i shorted my 720's LCD connection plug which blew a power diode and after some persation on my part that i could handle the repair as i'm pretty handy with a VOM he helped me diag & fix it myself he even sent me the right diodes free of charge and that 720 still works great ! i'd like to see any other company do that ! and thats just one example, Art is top notch in my book !

And there's a lot of great stuff coming out very soon for it ! my 720 just keeps getting better & better free of charge i might add !

Thank Art for everything !

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05-14-2011 06:29 PM  7 years agoPost 9
Al Austria

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Sacramento, CA - USA

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V-Bar 5.1
Microbeast
Skookum SK720/CGY750
Align 3G

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05-14-2011 06:30 PM  7 years agoPost 10
bkervaski

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Birmingham, AL, USA

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VBar or CGY750

VBar will make you look like a better pilot as it seems to do more small corrections and you get a very slightly disconnected feeling as a result.

The CGY750 will make you a better pilot but you still have to do the little corrections, it's the most connected feeling system I've flown.

I prefer the CGY750 because of it's simple setup, no need for a computer at the field, and more natural flight characteristics.

Plus, when coupled with an 8FG, it's a really awesome integrated system.

The CGY750 has the better governor of the two.

The CGY750 is also the only sensor out there that can be hard mounted, no fussing with foam pad layers and metal plates or zeal tape, just mount and fly.

Hard to beat either, both awesome systems, best in class.

Both of these systems are very easy to setup, it's just the VBar that requires a PC.

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05-14-2011 07:53 PM  7 years agoPost 11
teamdavey2001

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Sunnyvale, California, USA

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Also depends what you want it for and how you want to fly.

I fly scale and have tried Skookum, Beast and V bar. Of those the Sk is way the best for scale and the Beast the worst - completely "robotic".

Of course, some want "robotic"..........

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05-15-2011 12:13 AM  7 years agoPost 12
F1 Rocket

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Melbourne, Florida USA

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You forgot about the HeliCommands
HeliCommand HC3-X series

Probibly the best flying, least appreciated systems available.

Danny

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05-15-2011 02:47 AM  7 years agoPost 13
GetToDaChopper

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Las Vegas , NV

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CGY750's biggist plus is if you already own a 8FG it becomes a very intergated system that works on par with the best systems out there, but if you don't own a futaba system then it's a dif story, while all of the systems talked about in other posts are easyly adapted to radio systems other than futaba's with minimal cluter the CGY750 is not, take for example spectrum sat's, you just plug them right into the other FBL controllers, not so with futaba and it's still unclear as to how it's going to work, so with TX's other than futaba's systems like the top three (in my book) SK-720, v-bar, HC3-x series (once the hardware & firmware fix is done) definitely have a advantage over the CGY750, so i guess it come down to which TX you own plus what type of FBL feel your looking for as they all have their own unique feel.

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05-15-2011 07:14 AM  7 years agoPost 14
T-heli

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South-Africa

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"I fly scale and have tried Skookum, Beast and V bar. Of those the Sk is way the best for scale and the Beast the worst - completely "robotic".

Of course, some want "robotic".........."

Can one tweak the beastx not to feel robotic, i have one coming for my 600 but i want it to feel as close to a flybarred system as possible.

i'm not a noob and don't want a system to help me fly like a babysitter.

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The CGY750 will make you a better pilot but you still have to do the little corrections, it's the most connected feeling system I've flown."

That's what i want, i want to be connected to the heli as much as possible, however i have a jr tx, can i get a CGY750 and use it on an older futaba radio without any interface ? I cannot afford the 8fg.

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05-15-2011 07:26 AM  7 years agoPost 15
GyroFreak

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Orlando Florida ...28N 81W

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You forgot about the HeliCommands
HeliCommand HC3-X series

Probibly the best flying, least appreciated systems available.
I love it, but not having tried the others, can't compare.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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05-15-2011 12:04 PM  7 years agoPost 16
Asid

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uk

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I have flown most systems out there.

The HC3-Xtreme is definitely a very good system. I have only been using it for a short while but its the one i fly most at the moment.

Support from Captron has been first class.

heres a short write up [url=http://llamafeed.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=59:hc3-xtreme-fbl-unit-by-helicommand#]

If it ain't broke then break it.

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05-15-2011 12:42 PM  7 years agoPost 17
F1 Rocket

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Melbourne, Florida USA

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That's what i want, i want to be connected to the heli as much as possible, however i have a jr tx, can i get a CGY750 and use it on an older futaba radio without any interface ? I cannot afford the 8fg.
Then IMHO you should give the HeliCommand HC3-Xbase @ $250 a try. it is a very solid/connected feeling system. Setup is easy via the included PC interface.

Danny

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05-15-2011 01:01 PM  7 years agoPost 18
crazzyjoe

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Severn, Ontario, Canada

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I have a HC3 SX on my Gasser and it flies great, I really didn't notice a difference going from FB to FBL. The self leveling is also a nice feature to have and works really well also.

I'm using it as a stand alone receiver with 2 sats pluged in and it makes for a simple and clean install.

Joe

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05-15-2011 03:12 PM  7 years agoPost 19
TMoore

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Cookeville, TN

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I concur, the HC3 is a very solid FBL system.

TM

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05-15-2011 03:46 PM  7 years agoPost 20
T-heli

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South-Africa

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"Then IMHO you should give the HeliCommand HC3-Xbase @ $250 a try. it is a very solid/connected feeling system. Setup is easy via the included PC interface.

Danny"

O krut, yet another system, why can't they make just one or 2 systems, this is starting to consume me... madness...

Does the helicommand have low and high swash leveling feature like vbar futaba ? , i want to do it it all with the software like the vbar and GCY750

How customizable is the helicommand ?

where does the hellicommand rate ? above 3g and the beast ? Is it on par with vbar gcy750 skookum ? or above any of them ?

Why did i ever choose to fly heli's the choices is getting harder by the day, i've been looking online for months now and still have not decided i'm almost about to pull the trigger on a futaba, just waiting for a release date on the adapter. Though i must make a decision within the next 1 or 2 days for this is keeping me out of sleep at night and it's starting to show...

Until then i could still be persuaded i guess....

i only have one shot at this can't buy another should i be disapointed and i want something that would last in terms of upgradibility.

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