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05-13-2011 11:30 PM  7 years agoPost 1
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110513...a_groping_texas

AUSTIN, Tex (Reuters) – The Texas House of Representatives late on Thursday approved a bill that would make invasive pat-downs at Texas airports a crime, after a former Miss USA said she felt "molested" at the Dallas/Fort Worth airport last month.

Transportation Security Administration agents could be charged with a misdemeanor crime, face a $4,000 fine and one year in jail under the measure.

The proposal would classify any airport inspection that "touches the anus, sexual organ, buttocks, or breast of another person including through the clothing, or touches the other person in a manner that would be offensive to a reasonable person" as an offense of sexual harassment under official oppression.

The measure's author, Republican David Simpson, said: "Indecent groping searches when innocent travelers are seeking access to airports and public buildings would be outlawed under this bill."

The bill needs a final vote from the House before it would go to the Senate.

"This has to do with dignity in travel," Simpson said.

TSA spokesman Luis Casanova said he could not comment on pending legislation. He said just 3 percent of the traveling public is subjected to pat-downs.

TSA pat-downs have drawn some high-profile criticism, including from former Miss USA Susie Castillo, who said in a widely-viewed online video. that she felt "molested" by a pat-down at Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport last month.

The agency reviewed Castillo's incident and found that the officer followed proper procedures, said TSA assistant administrator Kristine Lee.

"We wish we lived in a world where security procedures at airports weren't necessary but that just isn't the case," Lee said in a statement.

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05-14-2011 03:07 AM  7 years agoPost 2
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Well we all know how many times a former Miss USA has tried to blow up an airliner before!

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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05-14-2011 03:09 AM  7 years agoPost 3
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Whats up with Texas?

You would think they are trying to go along with the will of the people.

Unprecedented !!!

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05-14-2011 03:16 AM  7 years agoPost 4
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I think that they are working with the unabridged version of the US constitution!

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05-15-2011 10:16 PM  7 years agoPost 5
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Texas has always wanted to be it's own country.

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05-16-2011 04:36 AM  7 years agoPost 6
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Texas has always wanted to be it's own country.
Again you mean?

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05-16-2011 06:11 PM  7 years agoPost 7
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Have any of you ever had a pat down by the TSA?

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05-16-2011 06:26 PM  7 years agoPost 8
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Nope, but I have only been in Phoenix and Sacramento. Neither one has the new xray machine either.

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05-16-2011 08:18 PM  7 years agoPost 9
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Well since I travel a lot for work (got back from Australia Friday) I'm subjected to it frequently. Tulsa was one of the test beds for the scanners and now combined with the pat down. It's nice since you get to decide how you want to be violated. After experiencing both of them I would not want my mother, sister, daughter, wife, co-worker, neighbor or anyone else to have to deal with it. It has gone too far all for the illusion of security. I applaud Texas for this.

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05-16-2011 08:30 PM  7 years agoPost 10
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It wouldn't be so bad if you could request a female TSA agent do the pat down. Might even tip her a few bucks. But now you get the gimp from Pulp Fiction.

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05-16-2011 09:04 PM  7 years agoPost 11
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After experiencing both of them I would not want my mother, sister, daughter, wife, co-worker, neighbor or anyone else to have to deal with it.
Would you rather have them get on a plane where none of the passengers have been checked?

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05-16-2011 09:33 PM  7 years agoPost 12
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Would you rather have them get on a plane where none of the passengers have been checked?
TSA offers a false sense of security with no real liability when they screw up. They need to implement a system where people can be pre-screened well in advance and then only go through the old standard procedures or new non-invasive procedures once approved. Those who don't want to or haven't gone through the pre-screening will get the more invasive search. As it is now, the enemy just needs to send enough terrorists such that at least one will statistically pass through. They also should stop advertising how weapon free these planes are. "Hey take over the plane, we removed all the weapons and sharp objects from all the law abiding citizens". No they should advertise that they hand out free knives and handguns to every other passenger. Even if it isn't true.

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05-16-2011 09:42 PM  7 years agoPost 13
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fwiw...

I fly frequently...

I will not go through the X- ray scanner, because I get enough radiation from the flying..
I would rather get on the plane with no searches at all than get a groping violating my fourth amendment rights....The passengers are not the problem...All the luggage going into the hold without being screened is...
IF the govt. goons all had the MM wave devices, perhaps my attitude would change...

What I can say definitively is that the gropings I've received so far would NOT have found anything like the panty bomber wore, so the grope was pointless....

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05-16-2011 09:50 PM  7 years agoPost 14
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Would you rather have them get on a plane where none of the passengers have been checked?
So it's one extreme or the other? Metal detector, fine. X-ray my bag, fine. Shoes off, fine. Invasive detecting methods, NO. People will not allow another 9/11 style hijacking. Example of that was Flt. 93 ON 9/11. Other such interventions have taken place by passengers in the last 10 years.

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05-16-2011 09:52 PM  7 years agoPost 15
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Would you rather have them get on a plane where none of the passengers have been checked?
If they just did the racial profiling they haven't the balls to do in the first place, it would not be much of an issue.

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05-16-2011 09:59 PM  7 years agoPost 16
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We could definitely learn something from the Israelis in that respect. I think its a bit amusing how we cant make someone "uncomfortable" by asking them a few questions about where they are from, been, or going but groping grandma in a wheel chair or a 6 year old are perfectly acceptable. When as everyone knows its a completely pointless waste of time. I would "feel" just as safe knowing there was at least a pilot or air marshal or someone else on board who was armed. The whole notion we have of security in regard to air travel is a joke.

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05-16-2011 10:04 PM  7 years agoPost 17
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The passengers are not the problem...All the luggage going into the hold without being screened is...
Has a plane gone down due to an explosive in the cargo area?
Not that I can think of off the top of my head. If I am wrong please correct me.

Has a plane gone down because a person was able to sneak on a weapon or explosives?
Yes.

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05-16-2011 10:06 PM  7 years agoPost 18
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fwiw...

Speaking of joke..

I'm amazed at the number of times some of my co-workers have left somewhat pointy tools in their carry-on luggage...and NOT been stopped by TSA...

If the idea of "air travel security" make you feel safer...don't fly.

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05-17-2011 01:51 AM  7 years agoPost 19
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Has a plane gone down due to an explosive in the cargo area?
Really?!? The most infamous one would be Pam Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland.
If they just did the racial profiling they haven't the balls to do in the first place, it would not be much of an issue.
That doesn't really help with the threat of home grown terrorism.
I would "feel" just as safe knowing there was at least a pilot or air marshal or someone else on board who was armed.
Air Marshal maybe but a pilot, hell no. US Airways Flt. 1536 anyone? If they're in that much danger, they can use the crash axe. The alertness and vigilance of the passengers and crew are the best tools to use for combating any threat.

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05-17-2011 01:56 AM  7 years agoPost 20
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I would "feel" just as safe knowing there was at least a pilot or air marshal or someone else on board who was armed.

Air Marshal maybe but a pilot, hell no. US Airways Flt. 1536 anyone? If they're in that much danger, they can use the crash axe. The alertness and vigilance of the passengers and crew are the best tools to use for combating any threat.
This pilot did something stupid. Consider the number of pilots and flights every day, it happened once. However, they are still your best bet for protecting the flight deck is an armed pilot, maybe with some additional training to keep the finger off the bang switch.

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