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05-11-2011 06:08 PM  7 years agoPost 21
jadams

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After owning a "newer" 10C 2.4 and now a 8FG, I would consider the looks of the 10C to be an issue. The feel of the 8FG in your hand is great. It is very light and has functions of a 14MZ. The 8FG has many lipo options, just do a search.

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05-11-2011 08:13 PM  7 years agoPost 22
Thomas L Erb

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Good call chago . Thanks

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05-11-2011 08:21 PM  7 years agoPost 23
the collective

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To the poster that commented about swash mixes being useless for FBL, open your eyes and learn: if you can set the swash to be true from the transmitter side, before you add the FBL stabilization unit, the entire system will function more effectively and the FBL unit does not have to correct from swash interaction "after the fact". FBL units are not psychic, they react to unwanted motion like any gyro does.
The majority of FBL systems require you to disable all your radios CCPM functionality when you set them up. You can't use the transmitter to set the swash to be true on a 3 servo swash when you set the radio to one servo and the FBL unit handles the mixing.

If I'm missing something, please explain it in a little more detail than "open your eyes and learn"

By the way, I also chose the 8FG, so don't think I'm trying to get into a "my radio is better" thing with you.

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05-11-2011 09:17 PM  7 years agoPost 24
RCSavager

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I don't make a habit to fly other folks' birds but I will try to find another 8FG this weekend at the field and see how it feels with my eyes closed. I'm sure that either radio will get the job done but I've just been fighting with the looks of it. I really do appreciate everyone's input and will do the due diligence this weekend and see how it goes. As in other things, looks may not be everything but DAMN that thing is ugly. :P

Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.

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05-12-2011 04:13 AM  7 years agoPost 25
Santiago P

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The majority of FBL systems require you to disable all your radios CCPM functionality when you set them up. You can't use the transmitter to set the swash to be true on a 3 servo swash when you set the radio to one servo and the FBL unit handles the mixing
collective
In that context, you are correct, and "I" spoke out of place
If I'm missing something, please explain it in a little more detail than "open your eyes and learn"
Touché
Yo got me now.

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05-12-2011 04:19 AM  7 years agoPost 26
RCSavager

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Take note fellas. Real man up above there. ^^ Good move man. Your contributions are appreciated and I'm happy to share the hobby with you. Don't change a thing. Well, ease into the next online debate maybe but keep the heart brother.

Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.

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05-12-2011 10:56 PM  7 years agoPost 27
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/sigh Things that make you go "mmmmmm.....". If the 14MZ was $2K I wonder what the new 18MZ will be.

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05-12-2011 11:05 PM  7 years agoPost 28
Nelson34

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I bought the 8FG for my Radicals-like it so far. My question is why would you use a lipo battery for it? Faster charge times? Thanks

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05-12-2011 11:09 PM  7 years agoPost 29
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Because currently I charge my 7C battery about once every 4 months. At the cost of the $10 lipo in it, it was a no-brainer. If I'm in the middle of a field flying for the day I don't want to have to plug in my radio. I just want to fly, and fly, and fly. Putting a lipo in my radio and a VBar in my bird was the last headache I've had with my equipment in this hobby.

Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.

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05-12-2011 11:50 PM  7 years agoPost 30
Nelson34

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Oh ok-then I may look into a lipo then.

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05-12-2011 11:56 PM  7 years agoPost 31
Phaedrus

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Things that make you go "mmmmmm.....". If the 14MZ was $2K I wonder what the new 18MZ will be.
Not to get off topic, but the 14MZ actually has a MSRP of $3,500USD. This is about the MSRP I've seen for the 18MZ, which tells me that we are not going to see a huge price difference.

As far as charging TX batteries go, it has never seemed to be that onerous of a task to me. As long as I can get through the average day I am fine. I would nervous as heck going months without charging my TX.

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05-13-2011 12:01 AM  7 years agoPost 32
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It's a beautiful feeling after a few weekends of looking at your battery voltage and seeing it the same as it was last week.

I'll never understand why we pay hundreds (and in some cases thousands) for the best electronics and it comes with a battery technology from the 80's. I'll never own a radio that can't hold a REAL battery and hearing that the 8FG can fit one I've pretty much settled on it now. I'd much rather have the 10CHG but at almost $200 more I think I'll tolerate the complete lack of styling in the 8FG and be content to have one of the FASSTest radios in the industry.

Everyone's input is priceless and I really appreciate it guys.

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05-13-2011 12:41 AM  7 years agoPost 33
Phaedrus

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I agree that the 600 pack on the 7C does not offer much capacity. I have traded out smaller TX packs that use AA size cells for packs using the Sanyo Eneloop cells. Very low self discharge (holds a charge for a long time between uses), 2,000 mAh capacity, no special chargers needed and no worries about burning my house or TX down!!

I have also changed a couple of radios over to LiFePO4 packs. Hyperion makes some good replacements. They have a 1,600 mAh pack that drops into radios like the 6ES and a 2,100 mAh pack that works in place of the 8-cell AA stick packs.

Again, no self discharge, no charging worries, and good capacity. Their TX packs even have a special board in them that lets you use you wall wart NiMH charger!!

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05-13-2011 12:50 AM  7 years agoPost 34
Nelson34

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So can I use a LiFe pack with the 8fg? I'm switching over to their packs and if I could that would be great.

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05-13-2011 01:00 AM  7 years agoPost 35
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Being able to use the stock charger might be cool but for now I'm using a 2620mah batt from HK at http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...?idProduct=7346

For $15/each I have absolutely nothing bad to say about it. It's been a breath of fresh air for both our 7C's (yes, the wife has her own radio).

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05-13-2011 01:24 AM  7 years agoPost 36
Phaedrus

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So can I use a LiFe pack with the 8fg? I'm switching over to their packs and if I could that would be great.
The 8FG has a 7.2 volt (6 cell) 1,700 mAh NiMH. That makes it a little tricky to replace with a LiFePO4 pack, at least the Hyperion brand. The pack that would fit is a 9.9 (3S) volt nominal pack. It will come off charge at close to 11 volts. Even though the NiMH comes off charge at around 9 volts or so it drops quickly.
The cell size is 4/4A as well making it harder to find a good replacement.

In the case of an 8FG a 2S lipo (7.4 volt nominal) would be a good way to go.

These are the specs on the stock pack, you can use the dimensions to find a pack to fit:

Capacity: 7.2VDC
mAh Rating: 1700
Length: 5.1" (130mm)
Width: 1.3" (34mm)
Thickness: .67" (17mm)
Weight: 6.87oz (195g)

NoBS batteries makes a 2,000 mAh NiMH that can be fast charged, but there is still a self discharge between charges. Although they use good low impedance cells so there is less of that.

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05-13-2011 01:27 AM  7 years agoPost 37
Nelson34

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Thank you

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05-13-2011 01:35 AM  7 years agoPost 38
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Just my humble $.02....

I charge my TX lipos to about 80% so I never hit the full voltage of a 3-cell (or in the case of an 8FG 2-cell battery). So basically I don't charge the full 2620mah but about 2000mah worth. That 2000mah with no cell drain covers me for months versus hours. Easy choice for me really. I'm definitely going to look at the above listed battery options when my final radio choice is made.

Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.

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05-13-2011 01:41 AM  7 years agoPost 39
Phaedrus

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On the 7C it is not that big of a deal. It is 9.6 volt system. It comes off charge at 11.1 volts or so as it is. I would have gone with the 9.9 volt LiFePO4 in that case, but even with your 3S lipo I see no issue with a full charge. I am just not a fan of lipos in transmitters. You could also easily get a 2,000 mAh Eneloop pack, have the same capacity and the same advantages with none of the potential disadvantages of a lipo.

I hope the new 18MZ does not use the same packs as the 14MZ, that is one thing I can say!!

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