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05-10-2011 09:01 PM  7 years agoPost 1
RCSavager

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Currently I fly a 7C w/ a lipo in it charged to about 70% and it's working good. When I get out a ways with my 600SE I'm feeling the latency between my radio and my bird. Looking at the options seems to say that the 8FG is the way to go for latency even though it looks fugly and like something I'd find on the clearance isle of Wal-Mart. The second option seems to be the 10CHG.

I fly FBL helis only so I really have no use for about 95% of the radio functions anyway. The ONLY thing I'm going for here is lower latency and no other reason. The turn-off for me on the 8FG other than it's ridiculously childish/cheap looks is that it has a 3x2 battery setup that will make it difficult to find a lipo thin enough to fit. I've always thought it silly that we pay hundreds of dollars for the latest technology in radios to be given a product with battery technology from the 80's. With the 10CHG I can use my existing lipo but then I'm paying almost $200 extra than the 8FG just so I can put a battery in it made within the last decade.

If it was your money what would you get? Futaba ONLY as I wouldn't bind anything of mine to a Spektrum if you paid me. Sorry guys, I happen to be able to see the woods in spite of the forest so I'm not flexible in that regard.

In advance, I appreciate your input/suggestions.

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05-10-2011 09:10 PM  7 years agoPost 2
jadams

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The 8FG is by far the best radio on the market right now in its price range. If you plan on using the cgy750 then you can't go wrong with a 8FG. the looks and feel of the radio are great. Power Edge makes a 2S lipo that fits the 8FG and it is around $25-30. There is a 8FG for sale on RR now that is a great deal.

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05-10-2011 09:38 PM  7 years agoPost 3
BeltFedBrowning

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Actually the 10C is faster than the 8FG. The programming in the 10C is the same as the 7C. Do your own research and make an informed decision. There are a lot of opinions out there.

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05-10-2011 10:34 PM  7 years agoPost 4
RCSavager

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If anybody makes a battery for the 8FG I could deal with it's appearance. But I hadn't heard that the 10CHG was faster than the 8FG. I thought they were both ~7ms latency. Calling the Futaba support line was as useless as expected.

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05-10-2011 10:50 PM  7 years agoPost 5
BeltFedBrowning

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Actual measured latency

Futaba 8FG |R6008HS | 14.1 ms

Futaba 10C/TM10|R6008HS | 11.7 ms

https://rc.runryder.com/t172571p1/?highlight=LATENCY

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05-10-2011 11:24 PM  7 years agoPost 6
RCSavager

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From what I've found they come with a 6208SB now which is the high-speed S-Bus receivers. A call to ReadyHeli left me with the impression that the 8 and 10 radios were about the same in latency. It just came down to battery compatibility and feature-sets that I don't use anyway. Having a 14-channel is nice unless all you fly is FBL helis that only use 4 channels and none of their advanced features ya know.

I really do appreciate the dialog though and hope this thread helps others make the same decision that I have to make.

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05-10-2011 11:47 PM  7 years agoPost 7
Steff Giguere

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The 8FG is the way to go. User update-able, the newer of the Futaba radios, SD card, balances off a neck strap without needing ugly balancer things, plus it seems to me like Futaba are putting lots of efforts with this radio.

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05-10-2011 11:49 PM  7 years agoPost 8
RCSavager

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If only they'd put that same effort into the cosmetics too right. :P

But it does seem like it's the way to go for what I'm looking for. I'll be watching my bird most of the time so maybe I won't notice how silly it looks compared to other options.

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05-10-2011 11:49 PM  7 years agoPost 9
Thomas L Erb

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the heli software in the 8fg and the 12fg,12z and 14mz is superior to the 10. The biggest difference is the swash mixing adjustment that the 10 does not have. If it was my money and the 8 fg did not suit my style then the next step is the 12fg. I personally fly a 12z and love it to death but is more pricey then the 12fg but what the heck its only money. The 10 was designed to replace the 9c which it does very well but the 8 was designed around the 14mz and 12z platforms which i believe are superior programing wise to the 10. JMHO

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05-10-2011 11:52 PM  7 years agoPost 10
Thomas L Erb

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If only they'd put that same effort into the cosmetics too right. :P
JR tried this and got the 11

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05-10-2011 11:58 PM  7 years agoPost 11
RCSavager

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If that new 11-channel of theirs was $20 I wouldn't buy it. LMAO

Yeah, they shot blanks on that design in my book. Besides the fact that it's not FASST, it's just weird looking. I love the look of the 10CHG but at almost $200 more than the cheezy look of the 8FG it's a hard sell just for looks and battery choices. Knowing that the 8FG can hold a lipo I'm willing to not look at it while I'm flying if it gives me the performance I'm looking for.

The comments are MUCH appreciated and I seem to be falling to being stuck with an ugly radio for the features it has. Definitely not my first choice but $$ vs speed seem to point to the 8FG. /sigh

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05-11-2011 12:06 AM  7 years agoPost 12
the collective

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the heli software in the 8fg and the 12fg,12z and 14mz is superior to the 10. The biggest difference is the swash mixing adjustment that the 10 does not have. If it was my money and the 8 fg did not suit my style then the next step is the 12fg.
The fancy swash mixing is completely useless on a FBL heli...

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05-11-2011 01:52 AM  7 years agoPost 13
Greybird

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The 8FG was just coming out when I got my 10CHG. I waited until the dedicated 2.4 version came out. I did not like the chp version. I also can not stand the look or the feel of the 8FG. I like the backlit screen, and nicer graphics the 10 has. I do not care if it not upgradeable. I do wish it had ball bearing gimbals. I also like the way you navigate the menu's better on the 10. Good luck with whatever you choose..

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05-11-2011 06:23 AM  7 years agoPost 14
GetToDaChopper

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hmmmm i luv the look and feel of my 8FG 14ch radio, oh well no accouting for taste...... sorry too late i said it first !

anyways all those big silver porcupines were all starting to look the same to me.

i look at guys holding one of those big silver things and can help thinking of some guy with erectile dysfunction having a mid life crisis and is driving a flashy silver corvette ! lol

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05-11-2011 10:19 AM  7 years agoPost 15
Thomas L Erb

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The fancy swash mixing is completely useless on a FBL heli...
Though this thought is true not everybody flys fbl but that is only 1 of many differences between the radios. next up IMHO is updatability but the list goes on

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05-11-2011 12:08 PM  7 years agoPost 16
bkervaski

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The 10C is just an updated 9C, not software upgradable, the software is dated and lacking, the radio is slow in comparission.

The 8FGH is a 14 channel radio, upgradable, one of fastest out there, uses the same software as the 12Z/14MZ platform, way better choice.

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05-11-2011 02:51 PM  7 years agoPost 17
Hermann300

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Culiacan, Mexico

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Feel
RC Savager:

My question is: Despite the looks, have you had a 8FGH in your hands? I switched from a sh**y JR9303 which only cost me 4 planes last year to a 8FGH, and I didn't like the looks either, but feeling it in your hands in another thing... I love the feel and how connected it gets to the heli...

If it was my Money, I'd go with the 8FGH, I have a friend at the club that went for the 10C because of your same motives (looks) and sometimes he fly my helis and NOW HE REGRETS not getting the 8FGH

IMHO you should go with the 8FGH, but good luck with your choice... Being FUTABA you can't go wrong

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05-11-2011 03:26 PM  7 years agoPost 18
Four Stroker

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Bingo. How it feels is the reason to buy it. You don't look at the radio while flying. Find one and hold it. Take your neck strap with you. Pay particular attention to the top switches and where you normally put your fingers.

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05-11-2011 03:47 PM  7 years agoPost 19
Hotwings

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i'm using the Outrage 2500 2S1P in my 8fg works great perfect fit Ron

Please cancel my clearance, I have the field in sight. Got my RW Turbine Waiver, need lottery!

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05-11-2011 04:53 PM  7 years agoPost 20
Santiago P

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Actual measured latency

Futaba 8FG |R6008HS | 14.1 ms

Futaba 10C/TM10|R6008HS | 11.7 ms
True, but 3ms a valid argument does not make to favor the 10C.

The 10C is a dated radio, software wise. BUT, {and that is the only but}Some people, especially those with bigger hands may prefer the feel of the 10C TX over the 8FG. Keep that in mind.

The 8FG is far ahead in software and ability to update via internet download, if you needed.

To the poster that commented about swash mixes being useless for FBL, open your eyes and learn: if you can set the swash to be true from the transmitter side, before you add the FBL stabilization unit, the entire system will function more effectively and the FBL unit does not have to correct from swash interaction "after the fact". FBL units are not psychic, they react to unwanted motion like any gyro does.

Vote for the 8FG, I got one myself

Santiago

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