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05-09-2011 08:43 PM  7 years agoPost 1
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Did the U.S. Violate Bin Laden's Rights?

By Anne Bayefsky

The response to the death of Usama bin Laden by the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay, and two “experts” appointed by the U.N. Human Rights Council ought to be ringing a lot of alarm bells right now.

Just last month, Susan Rice, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations told Congress that “when we meet our financial obligations to the U.N., we make Americans safer.”

On the contrary, U.N. reaction to Bin Laden’s death indicates that the Obama administration’s warm embrace of the organization is endangering American lives.

The U.N.’s top human rights official took time this past week to concern herself about the treatment Bin Laden received as he was killed. She demanded to know “the precise facts surrounding his killing” for the purpose of determining its legality. According to Pillay, “counter-terrorism activity…in compliance with international law” means “you’re not allowed…to commit extra-judicial killings.” And this requirement would only be satisfied if the Americans had stuck by what she claimed was their “stated…intention…to arrest bin Laden if they could.”

On Friday, two professors and part-time U.N. “experts,” Christof Heyns and Martin Scheinin, issued a joint statement on Bin Laden’s killing. The two academics claimed that “the norm should be that terrorists be dealt with as criminals, through legal processes of arrest, trial and judicially-decided punishment.” They also insisted that the U.N. was entitled to receive “more facts” “to allow an assessment in terms of international human rights law standards.” Those standards would be violated, they claimed, unless “the planning of the mission allowed an effort to capture Bin Laden.”

The suggestion from these two U.N. authority-figures that America is criminally at fault for killing Bin Laden if their terms have not been satisfied is both offensive and legally false.

Under the laws of war, combatants are a “legitimate” target for attack. A protocol to the Geneva Conventions defines a legitimate military target as one “which…makes an effective contribution to military action and whose…destruction…offers a definite military advantage.” This description fits Usama bin Laden. Bin Laden’s killing was, therefore, a justifiable homicide and incurs no liability. There was no necessity that the Navy SEALs must have intended to arrest him or make an effort to capture him alive.

In the minds of those at the U.N, however, the life-and-death struggle to defend freedom from Islamic terrorists is occurring in a vacuum. They insist that the applicable legal regime is international human rights law which considers the single individual and prohibits the arbitrary deprivation of life, requires due process and condemns anything else as “extrajudicial” killing. Their response to the laws of warfare is: “what war?”

So here we are. The world’s most wanted terrorist is finally dead and U.N. actors are questioning his death in the name of human rights.

Scheinin’s full U.N. job title is self-explanatory. He is the “rapporteur on the promotion and protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms while countering terrorism.” Promoting human rights is one side of the ledger and countering terrorism is allegedly on the other side.

Finding the United Nations on the opposite side from the effort by democracies to protect human rights in the real world is not an isolated phenomenon.

The United Nations still has no definition of terrorism. Standing in the way of a universally-agreed definition are the 22 members of the Arab League and the 57 members of the Organization of the Islamic Conference. Each of these groups has signed on to an “anti-terrorism” treaty that represents the culmination of their agreed ideology on the subject. The Arab Terrorism Convention, for example, exempts from its idea of terrorism everything from suicide-bombing to slitting the throats of 3-month old babies under the umbrella of “all cases of struggle by whatever means…against foreign occupation and aggression for liberation and self-determination.”

As a result, on May 2, 2011 the Security Council issued a unanimous presidential statement on Bin Laden’s death which was very careful to “reaffirm…other applicable international counter-terrorism instruments.” After all, Council members currently include a representative of a terrorist organization, since Lebanon’s government is controlled by Hezbollah.

The U.N.’s post-9/11 counter-terrorism centerpiece is its “Global Counter-Terrorism Strategy”, adopted by the General Assembly in 2006. Its very first section is a promise “to undertake…measures aimed at addressing the conditions conducive to the spread of terrorism.” More specifically, the U.N. worried first and foremost about “youth unemployment, …marginalization and the subsequent sense of victimization” of terrorist wannabes.

Consequently, the Security Council presidential statement on Bin Laden’s death immediately changed the subject from his demise to demanding the world “address the conditions conducive to the spread of terrorism.” And they weren't talking about hate, intolerance, antisemitism, and just plain evil acts.

Of course, Bin Laden, himself puts the lie to this diplomatic claptrap since the world’s number one terrorist was a man of wealth from a privileged background.

U.N. double-talk on terrorism has reached a new low with the grotesque suggestion that the killing of Usama bin Laden violated his human rights. And handing the U.N. more than 6 billion dollars of taxpayer money each year, leaves Americans far less safe.

Anne Bayefsky is a Senior Fellow at the Hudson Institute and director of the Touro Institute on Human Rights and the Holocaust.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011...-ladens-rights/

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05-12-2011 02:24 AM  7 years agoPost 2
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No way, he died of natural causes, ABP; Acute Ballistic Poisoning.

The fact there are a group is idiots sitting around wondering if this guy *should* have been capped is a sad commentary on the decline of common sense.

I give up on Loctite, nothing lasts long enough to vibrate loose anymore.

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05-12-2011 02:28 AM  7 years agoPost 3
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We did violate everyone elses rights.

We let that sucker to live to long.

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05-12-2011 02:31 AM  7 years agoPost 4
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Lucky the government didnt say Dennis was responsible for 9/11. LOL

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05-12-2011 02:37 AM  7 years agoPost 5
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Well, they didn't. But you just did.

Another CT?

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05-12-2011 02:44 AM  7 years agoPost 6
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The UN
Wonder just how many foreign individuals,: Of all the countries represented: -Diplomats'

"Actual Number's Wise"

Associated couriers - various assistants, all the ancillary staff, clerical staff, and family and relative's and friends are here ??

When not in secession what do they do all day ???

6 billion dollars of taxpayer money each year, ????????

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05-12-2011 03:34 AM  7 years agoPost 7
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I guess Obama's next "Peace Prize" is in doubt then?

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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05-12-2011 10:21 AM  7 years agoPost 8
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Did the U.S. Violate Bin Laden's Rights?
Who cares!!! and I hope so.

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05-12-2011 11:54 AM  7 years agoPost 9
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Well, they didn't. But you just did.

Another CT?
Who is "they"? and just who are you talking about when you say 'you' just did?

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05-12-2011 02:02 PM  7 years agoPost 10
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Did the U.S. Violate Bin Laden's Rights?
With every society, when you commit a crime, you forfeit certain rights and exempt yourself from common privileges. Bin Laden understood this, which is why he ran and hid for so long.

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05-12-2011 02:30 PM  7 years agoPost 11
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Who Cares? Who's rights did Osama violate?

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05-12-2011 02:57 PM  7 years agoPost 12
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With every society, when you commit a crime
You have the right to a fair trial.Atleast in every civilized society.
Bin Laden understood this, which is why he ran and hid for so long.
If the US government accused you for doing something you may or may not have done, and put a price on your head of 50 million,you might want to hide out for while as well. LOL
OBL is dead, and probably has been for quite some time. But, despite what the truth actually is, many are being “conditioned” to believe that there is a real terror threat due to his death; revenge killings.
The stage is being set. Soldiers returning home are being silenced — and labeled as “potential home-grown terrorists”. Veterans have already been labeled as such. As a matter of fact, anyone who has spoken out against our government is considered to be a potential home-grown terrorist. Of course, all of this means the obvious: THEY WILL KILL YOU.

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05-12-2011 04:12 PM  7 years agoPost 13
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If we'd have kept him alive, Islamist extremists would be blowing stuff up all over the place demanding his release. He needed to die right then and there.

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05-12-2011 04:18 PM  7 years agoPost 14
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If we'd have kept him alive, Islamist extremists would be blowing stuff up all over the place demanding his release. He needed to die right then and there.
Is he indeed dead?
They wont show his body cause he is still alive and at Guantanamo bay prison right now being water-boarded for more info.Didn’t you notice that his Kidney Dialysis machine wasn’t in the videos at his mansion?Thats cause the seals took it with them.No one has seen his wife on video saying anything,its just all hear say from the paki’s about her saying she saw bin laden shot and killed.Maybe the seals shot him with a tranquilizer to put him to sleep so he would be easier to carry to the chopper.After they are done getting info out of bin laden they will make him disappear.most likely grind him up and feed him to the fish.Or who knows maybe even say he escaped to continue this dramatic action or hoax.

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05-12-2011 04:25 PM  7 years agoPost 15
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Law SUit / Mr: Omar
Well If SO:::: mr. Omar is attempting to rally a International Law Suit;

IF he doe's -- and is semi successful in the world court --- it provides the opportunity for a USA Counter Suit $$$: I can just think of the spice's

Can we say : Oh Boy ! In the Counter Suit for the Victim's, the Families, the City and State of New York on and on and ON.

Let's watch : We have a heck of a bill for the Bin's to pay.

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05-12-2011 05:03 PM  7 years agoPost 16
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Ask the UN executives to show how it should be done first hand, to ensure if they are doing it correctly.

I wonder what excuse they will provide to weasel out of this.
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05-12-2011 09:33 PM  7 years agoPost 17
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Is he indeed dead?
If we never see that guy make any more propaganda films...I am happy.

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