RunRyder RC
WATCH
 3 pages [ <<    <     1     ( 2 )     3     NEXT    >> ] 4157 views POST REPLY
HomeRC & PowerAircraftHelicopter
e-
Electric Battery-Charger-pSupply
› Powerlab 8 vs Hyp 720 duo3?
05-11-2011 01:24 PM  7 years agoPost 21
PC12DRVR

rrKey Veteran

USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

I love my PL8 great charger

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-11-2011 05:30 PM  7 years agoPost 22
Kiba

rrApprentice

CA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

a guy at the field has the powerlab. the single feature i've not seen on any other charger is that it shows the resistance of the cells...a very telling factor on pack health.
The iCharger line reads individual cell IR as well.
The PL8 measures individual cell IR. Does the Duo measure pack IR or individual cell IR?
The Hyperion chargers measure overall pack IR. I wish they would add individual cell IR checking capabilities, it would make diagnosing a "problem" pack much easier.

Both are great chargers but personally I have 2x Super Duos. I like the versatility of having 4x 20amp / 500 watt ports available and I typically parallel charge on each port; before heading out to fly I charge 16 batteries between both my Super Duos (4 batteries per port) and from storage charge and "ready to go" is about 20 minutes.

PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR  Quote
05-11-2011 05:38 PM  7 years agoPost 23
Wingman77

rrProfessor

Pulaski Tennessee

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

yea so do I, it is nice to have a charger that can do 4 or even six batteries at the same time.

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-11-2011 07:29 PM  7 years agoPost 24
snjbird

rrKey Veteran

Kissimmee, Florida- USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

I might have to get me one of those PL8s

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-11-2011 07:30 PM  7 years agoPost 25
inkspot1967

rrProfessor

Cranston Ri

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

How do u charge 2 packs on each port on a super duo

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-11-2011 07:31 PM  7 years agoPost 26
Wingman77

rrProfessor

Pulaski Tennessee

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

just plug them up in parallel.

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-11-2011 07:40 PM  7 years agoPost 27
snjbird

rrKey Veteran

Kissimmee, Florida- USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Hmm that PL8 is an 8S charger? That kinda sucks! I mean who uses 8S... most guys are running 10S or 12S on their Logos, and all the guys running .90 conversions, or scratch build 700s are running 12S! The price is good, so I guess if you wanted to get 2 of them, they hookup fine, but then the price is not so competitive anymore?

I mean at this point what good is 1400 watts on one channel? I don't have batteries that can do 15C, an I don't think I will need them. I'm happy with 20 minute charge times???

As far as plug and go, I think the 720Duo is better?

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-11-2011 07:52 PM  7 years agoPost 28
bjacks

rrKey Veteran

Ft. Worth, Tex.

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Chargers
I need to ask a question, I know what IR is and if I have a pack that's got a reading of 20 and one of the cells has a reading of 28, I'm going to get rid of that battery pack or break it down and match all the cells so there the same, a battery pack is as good as the weakest cell. Bobby

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-11-2011 07:55 PM  7 years agoPost 29
inkspot1967

rrProfessor

Cranston Ri

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

I know u just plug them in but how do we balance them also what is needed

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-11-2011 08:07 PM  7 years agoPost 30
Kiba

rrApprentice

CA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Hmm that PL8 is an 8S charger? That kinda sucks! I mean who uses 8S... most guys are running 10S or 12S on their Logos, and all the guys running .90 conversions, or scratch build 700s are running 12S! The price is good, so I guess if you wanted to get 2 of them, they hookup fine, but then the price is not so competitive anymore?
Remember, the Super Duo is only a 7S charger.

Not a problem as most 10S and 12S packs nowadays are "split packs" and are charged as 2x 5S or 2x 6S packs.

I charge my 12S 4000 Logo 600SE packs as 2x 6S 4000 split packs.

With a Super Duo that leaves quite a few options...

1x 6S 4000 pack per charger port at 20A (5C)

2x 6S 4000 packs in parallel (1 flight pack) per port at 20A (2.5C)

4x 6S 4000 packs in parallel per port at 20A (1.25C); that's 4 flight packs simultaneously using both ports of the charger.

The nice thing about having 2x ports on the charger is if you're rapidly cycling packs at the field you can start one battery on the second port while another battery is still charging on the first port.

I don't own an PL8 but I have used one. Nice chargers. I just chose a pair of Super Duos because at the end of the day I found more versatility to be had with 4x 500 watt chargers (2 Super Duos) than 2x 1344 watt chargers (2 PL8s.)

Now, if FMA made a dual port PL8 (672 watts per port) I probably would have purchased those over the Super Duo.

Junsi (iCharger) has been hinting about a dual port 1600 watt (800 per port) charger in their future product lineup. That would be neat but at full power it's going to be a breaker-popper for most US household circuits.

PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR  Quote
05-11-2011 08:30 PM  7 years agoPost 31
Ace Dude

rrProfessor

USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Now, if FMA made a dual port PL8 (672 watts per port) I probably would have purchased those over the Super Duo.
Note that two PL8's can be used in a similar fashion to a single dual port charger using expansion channel mode.

From the manual:

"Expansion Channel Mode enables multiple PowerLab 8 units to be interlocked, for highly efficient charging of multiple packs of the same chemistry. The primary PowerLab 8 controls all aspects of charging and balancing for the expansion units."

  

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-11-2011 09:18 PM  7 years agoPost 32
snjbird

rrKey Veteran

Kissimmee, Florida- USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Yea I'm not sure I have ever seen a straight 12S pack? I'm pretty sure they have all been two 6S packs, 10S yup see straight 10S all the time. My 10S are two 5S in the same HS

So I can use either the Voltz 101K with a series plug, or one of my three duos.

But I would like to try a FMA charger, a buddy had the 10S one, it looked very nice!

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-11-2011 09:23 PM  7 years agoPost 33
Eury

rrProfessor

Dover NH

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Ink, pick up some Paraboards at epbuddy.com. Charge 6 packs at once on each side. I generally charge 4 6s packs per side at the same time on my Super Duo, and in an hour I have enough packs charged up for 4 flights on my ENV.

Nick Crego

Citizen #0168

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-11-2011 10:18 PM  7 years agoPost 34
inkspot1967

rrProfessor

Cranston Ri

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

thx bud i wasnt sure what boards fit the super duo.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-11-2011 10:20 PM  7 years agoPost 35
Eury

rrProfessor

Dover NH

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

I got the ones with the jet xh connectors. They plug right in.

Nick Crego

Citizen #0168

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-11-2011 10:50 PM  7 years agoPost 36
inkspot1967

rrProfessor

Cranston Ri

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

awesome thx im gonna look into them now

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-12-2011 02:54 AM  7 years agoPost 37
Steff Giguere

rrProfessor

St-Eustache, Quebec, Canada

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Their is just something I don't like about charging and balancing 3 or more pack in series on the same charger. One of my friends does it all the time with this PL8 and seems to work great. Myself I'm used to Hyperion chargers and like them alot....I guess each their own.

Team Synergy, Rail blades, Team Scorpion, V-Team

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-12-2011 03:20 AM  7 years agoPost 38
4cyclic

rrKey Veteran

Montreal, Can. and northern Vermont

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

You can't go wrong with either, but I have 2x PL8 and very happy with them. A couple of things I like about PL8's it's their compact size, higher wattage output, super adjustable parameters with the control software and service in USA.

Life is meaningful flying helis.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
08-20-2011 10:57 PM  7 years agoPost 39
ZAC ATTACK

rrKey Veteran

Hamilton Ontario, CANADA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

The Super Duo has an 8 pin Balance adapter.The Para board from EPbuddy to charge Thunder Power/T connector is a 7 pin?? What do I do??

MAAC#77677 Medicated daily for your protection

PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR  Quote
08-30-2011 01:07 AM  7 years agoPost 40
CoronaL

rrKey Veteran

Winnebago IL

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

PL8 has individual cell IR
more power total charging
more accurate balancing IMO

Super duo can charge 2 different chemistries at the same time(on diff ports)

IMO the PL8 is a better charger. I have 4 of them

Randy!!! I am the liquor

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
WATCH
 3 pages [ <<    <     1     ( 2 )     3     NEXT    >> ] 4157 views POST REPLY
HomeRC & PowerAircraftHelicopter
e-
Electric Battery-Charger-pSupply
› Powerlab 8 vs Hyp 720 duo3?
 Print TOPIC  Make Suggestion 

 13  Topic Subscribe

Friday, September 21 - 4:58 am - Copyright © 2000-2018 RunRyder   EMAILEnable Cookies

The RC discussion world needs to consolidate. RR is now one choice for that. Its software is cutting edge. It hosts on-topic advertising. Help RR increase traffic buy making suggestions, posting in RR's new areas (sites) and by spreading the word.

The RunRyder Difference

• Category system to allow Rep/Vendor postings.
• Classifieds with sold (hidden) category.
• Classifieds with separate view new.
• Answer PMs offsite via email reply.
• Member gallery photos with advanced scripting.
• Gallery photo viewer integrated into postings.
• Highly refined search with advanced back end.
• Hosts its own high end fast response servers.
• Hosts thousands of HD event coverage videos.
• Rewrote entire code base with latest technology.
• No off-topic (annoying) click bait advertising.
Login Here
 New Subscriptions 
 Buddies Online