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05-01-2011 05:19 AM  10 years ago
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wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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would you agree nice guys rarely crash
most of the really good pilots i know rarely crash

would you guys agree ?
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05-01-2011 05:20 AM  10 years ago
rudyy

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Do you imply bad guys always crash?
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05-01-2011 05:43 AM  10 years ago
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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rudyy Do you imply bad guys always crash?
not at all

it just seems like there calmness must help them to focus i guess and they always have a pleasant attitude.

would you agree ?
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05-01-2011 07:23 AM  10 years ago
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Youve got two different statemants there WC, and your confusing me

Most of the nice, cool, calm guys i know rarely crash.

Most of the really good pilots i know often crash.

So in theory, to be a good pilot, you must be a @$$ lol jk
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05-01-2011 08:00 AM  10 years ago
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happens to everyone. at a funfly today a very very good pilot just finished off his routine came in an inverted auto to a very smooth transition to the roar of the spectators..... so tell me why this cat decided to spool it up to pull off one last aileron tic toc close to the pavement, clipping the ground sending the heli in a death chicken dance!"R.I.P Roman" Citizen 0094 in the Nation
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05-01-2011 08:58 AM  10 years ago
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mr dan happens to everyone. at a funfly today a very very good pilot just finished off his routine came in an inverted auto to a very smooth transition to the roar of the spectators..... so tell me why this cat decided to spool it up to pull off one last aileron tic toc close to the pavement, clipping the ground sending the heli in a death chicken dance!
not a good pilot

but the friendly pilot the all around really good guy with the relaxed attitude.

i can name a few
helicuzz
bulldog
miller
rogman lol jk

but rr has tons of these guys

one that i know and you know is kloner.

but just thought id share a thought that i had.
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05-01-2011 04:12 PM  10 years ago
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It isn't about being nice. A lot of it has to do with skill, focus, and fly style. I can fly more conservative and seriously decrease my chances of crashing. Let's break it down:

Skill: The more skill you have, the more likely you are to get out of trouble if something doesn't go right. The ability to make the right decision when bad things happen.

Focus: Your heli is your central point and you are not thinking about anything else.

Fly style: The more aggressive you fly, the more likely you are to crash. When you are doing tick tocks 3 ft off the ground or doing blade scrapes, you are increasing the chances of a crash. If you just go up and hover and do nothing, then the liklihood is seriously decreased.

Even though the flying style is a big part, the other two are just as important. I was on some meds about a year ago that prevented me from focusing. I crashed while hovering with the heli facing towards me. I had the skill and was just hovering, but I didn't have the ability to focus on the task. Don't forget that mechanical issues can happen as well.
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05-01-2011 05:00 PM  10 years ago
Raffy

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Yes! Nice guys know the limit of not crashing.
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05-01-2011 05:42 PM  10 years ago
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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Raffy Yes! Nice guys know the limit of not crashing.
also being relaxed and comfortable helps a ton.
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05-01-2011 06:09 PM  10 years ago
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Yep you have to relax to learn, no crowd watching also helps. I get nervous when being watched. So I'd rather be alone when flying. Good guys, or bad fly also crash. But good guys prevail, because they are more calm and collective with their thoughts. To learn you should not feel the need to impress those watching, go at your own pace
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05-01-2011 08:55 PM  10 years ago
Solmanbandit

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As far as being relaxed, it doesn't seem to affect my concentration, but it does affect my hands shaking. I think that not worrying about the consenquences of a potential crash really makes a difference.Trex 700E / Trex 500 ESP - Ikon/ HD 500 - Ikon 2/ Goblin 500 Ikon 2
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05-01-2011 10:07 PM  10 years ago
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Solmanbandit

I think that not worrying about the consenquences of a potential crash really makes a difference.
This right here is what it boils down to for most beginners, trying to transition from Tail-in to Nose-in.

But I don't see this being a factor for those with plenty of money.
As they can progress faster.

But it was, and still is for Me a Major Factor. It's a daily hindrance for Me and Many Others with low budgets that still wants to fly. I've wanted to fly something for as long as I can remember. RC Cars just did not give me the excitement, and thrill of RC Helicopters. If I'm Lucky my budget allows me about $50.00 per month.
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05-01-2011 10:12 PM  10 years ago
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would you agree nice guys rarely crash

I still crash
maybe I'm an arse and don't know it
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05-02-2011 02:37 AM  10 years ago
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im not guna say how i really feel about this whole discussion but i disagree...

pm for the real deal
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05-02-2011 04:06 AM  10 years ago
mcaccamise

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If you aint crashin you aint flyin nice or not?
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05-02-2011 05:32 AM  10 years ago
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I think there might be a coorelation between certain personality types and personality traits in regards to how someone may choose a certain flying style and how well they fly. But, does that mean that more relaxed/cool pilots are better pilots overall?....I don't think so. I do believe that a person who is able to stay calm during an adverse event is more capable of producing a more favorable outcome. but, you don't have to have a "niceguy" personality type to be able to stay calm and be smart in a bad situation.

I think what separates the good pilots from the bad ones is one factor. That factor is based on the types of decisions that pilots makes that either contribute to the probablity of crashing or detract from it. Things like knowing exactly how and when to execute manuavers based on your skill level and the capability of your machine plays an important role. A good pilot doesn't have to have a perfect flying record either, but they are able to learn from their mistakes to keep from repeating them. Bad pilots seems to make the same mistakes over and over again and can't figure out why they crash every other flight. Good pilots take the time to learn what they can and know how hard they can push their skills to get better without endangering themselves, others, or their machine beyond what's necessary.

In simpler terms, you can be a bad pilot but still be great with people and transversly, you can be a great pilot but a complete prick too. It all comes down to how well you take advice from others, how much confidence in your own skills, and how much effort you are willing to invest to become a great pilot. Bad pilots want to fly like Alan Szabo, but don't want to take the time learn what he knows the right away. We've all seem them and I think we all can tell the difference between a great pilot and a crappy one....you don't need someone to explain on RR or have years of experience either. Just my thoughts on the matter
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05-02-2011 05:59 AM  10 years ago
Solmanbandit

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Very well put...Trex 700E / Trex 500 ESP - Ikon/ HD 500 - Ikon 2/ Goblin 500 Ikon 2
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05-02-2011 07:46 AM  10 years ago
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Wc you are 100% wrong! it has nothing to do with being mr.nice guy, there are plenty of good pilots who make a mistake ."R.I.P Roman" Citizen 0094 in the Nation
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05-02-2011 09:58 AM  10 years ago
siang

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I think the way one fly reflex on his charactor. Nothing to do with good or bad pilot. Some are eager to push ahead others are afraid. Both can be a safe/dangerous pilot. No doubt the one that push his limits is the one who progress fastest. Well, that will also depend on what you see as progress.welcome to the dark side =)
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05-02-2011 04:48 PM  10 years ago
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Hey WC, this thread isn't to make any dig's on any one person whom may crash alot and may not be percieved as a nice guy in any way shape or form would it?

High Voltage just works better
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