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04-30-2011 03:34 PM  10 years ago
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NJ residents burned by ‘going green’
NJ residents burned by ‘going green’

Posted on April 28, 2011

Here‘s a perfect example of why forcing the green economy down America’s throat will not work. We shouldn’t need this example, because Spain is already clearly demonstrating that (20% unemployment). But, thanks to New Jersey, we get our very own real life lesson right here in America. New Jersey went the solar power route and they are currently putting up almost 200,000 hideously ugly solar panels on street utility poles. Here’s a sample of what it looks like:

People are already voicing extreme displeasure at these ‘eyesores’ popping up around the community. Not only are they ugly, they are expensive. This from the New York Times:

“The solar installations, the first and most extensive of their kind in the country, are part of a $515 million investment in solar projects by PSE&G under a state mandate that by 2021 power providers get 23 percent of their electricity from renewable sources.”

Got it? The utility company is being forced to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to meet a stupid mandate. But, you say, what about all the savings! Ah yes, the savings.

“When complete, this project is expected to provide half of the 80 megawatts of electricity needed to power 6,500 homes.”

Impressive, half the power for 6,500 homes. That’s ALL of the power for 3250 homes. Let’s do something the environmentalists hope you never do: the math.

$515 million dollars was spent to eventually power 3250 homes. That means approx $158,000 was spent per home. The average electric bill in the United States is approx $105 a month, or $1260 a year. See where this is going? It’s going to take a long, long time – 125 years to be exact – to break even on this wonderful green project. And the panels only have a lifespan of about 25-30 years so they will need to be replaced long before the money is recouped.

Predictably, the utility company is already beginning to pass the costs on to consumers

“PSE&G officials said solar energy was still more expensive to produce than more traditional power sources and acknowledged that bills were going up 29 cents a month. Each panel produces 220 watts of power, enough to brighten about four 60-watt light bulbs for about six weeks.”

And the best news for last — the solar panels will only produce barely 1% of the state’s electricity. So they only have to repeat THIS disaster 22 more times and the mandate is met!

http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2011/0...by-going-green/

My Comments: if there is anyone here from NJ, can you confirm this story for us?
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04-30-2011 03:39 PM  10 years ago
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And best of all........ What happens if the sun doesnt shine, production is close to NIL. Been there done that.Bill Whittaker
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04-30-2011 03:50 PM  10 years ago
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Perhaps they can put hamsters on treadmills to generate electricity. Would cost less.Man, I miss the eighties.
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04-30-2011 04:28 PM  10 years ago
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Perhaps they can put hamsters on treadmills to generate electricity. Would cost less.
It would make more sense doing that.

At least the hamster would have a full time job with excellent pay and benefits. And a free treadmill to keep in shape.

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04-30-2011 06:29 PM  10 years ago
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$158,000 was spent per home
That is not a normal price for a home solar set up. Not by a long shot.
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04-30-2011 07:00 PM  10 years ago
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For a home system (Grid tie) You can spend around $30,000 and have a system that will do just about any house and feedback to the energy co. for a check at the end of the month! With incentives your cost is about $15,000. So what they spent per house (158,000 is Politics at its finest!
Nice Job by some Idiot politicans. It goes on and on and on........Government Waste!!!!!
Bill Whittaker
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04-30-2011 08:36 PM  10 years ago
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The company that I work for is in the buisness of making transformers for the power distribution industry. We have a guy working for us that thinks that solar power is the answer to everything. I explained that the payback on a solar setup is like a hundred years and that they don't even last that long.
He just couldn't believe it and told me I was crazy for saying that because Obama is pushing solar power!
I almost fired him on the spot!
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
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04-30-2011 08:42 PM  10 years ago
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I almost fired him on the spot!
I would not normally advocate a person loosing their job now a days.

But, in that particular case, you might want to reconsider that "almost".

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04-30-2011 08:58 PM  10 years ago
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Eyesores? They are less of a eye sore than the rats nest of wires, ugly transformers, and cr@ppy looking power poles.
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04-30-2011 09:01 PM  10 years ago
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Eyesores? They are less of a eye sore than the rats nest of wires, ugly transformers, and cr@ppy looking power poles.
Which would you rather have?

$150,000 + per house cost or some wires on telephone poles?

They could probably bury those same telephone pole wires in the ground for less cost than that.

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04-30-2011 09:33 PM  10 years ago
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I didn't mention anything of the cost? but I do think that the cost is ridiculous, but then again when they spend our money, money is no object to them.
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04-30-2011 09:35 PM  10 years ago
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I didn't mention anything of the cost? but I do think that the cost is ridiculous, but then again when they spend our money, money is no object to them.
Yes, so true. Its all about "spending".

The cost of "spending" will bring us all down.

Last night, it was announced on Fox News that our federal government is spending $189 million "per hour" to maintain the debt of well over $14 trillion and growing.

One more time: Our federal government spending $189 million "per hour" to maintain the debt of well over $14 trillion and growing.

And Washington DC wants to raise the debt ceiling to spend more ???

And folks think the Obummer's birth certificate is a problem ????

Sheeeeiiit. Give me a break.
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05-01-2011 04:53 AM  10 years ago
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like anything else the government gets involved in, it will cost 10 times the money and get 10 time less the results then the private sector.
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05-01-2011 05:16 AM  10 years ago
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I think thathey should be spending that money on new green transformers!
I'll paint them green myself if I have to!
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
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05-01-2011 02:30 PM  10 years ago
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Eyesores? They are less of a eye sore than the rats nest of wires, ugly transformers, and cr@ppy looking power poles.
LOL, that's what I thought.

What really cracks me up is that it's PSE&G investing not the tax payer and you guys are still outraged about it. A whole 29 cents added to their bill!!! Wow that sure would break me. It's gone up more than that for a gallon of gas.
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05-01-2011 03:22 PM  10 years ago
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Perhaps they can put hamsters on treadmills to generate electricity.
Change that to:
Perhaps they can put politicians on treadmills to generate electricity.
The case against politicians simply is that when they legislate for all men, they always omit themselves
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05-01-2011 03:25 PM  10 years ago
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A few years back I read about some nearly 100% solar military base out west. Obama gave a speech there about how wonderful it was, the cost, the savings. A quick calculation in my head revealed the cost could be recouped in about 100 years with zero maintenance costs.

You have to be a moron to believe that current solar/wind technology is even a partial solution to the energy "crisis", or that our current duct-tape-and-zip-tie grid could even begin to support electric cars for that matter. The only people making out are the corporations selling this **** thanks to their paid-off legislators crooks that mandate it - and at our expense no matter who you they convince you is paying for it.

Waiting for the suppressed technologies here...
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05-01-2011 03:59 PM  10 years ago
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Solar panels ae not expensive to those that are not tolazy to build them, said ones on the pole can be built for around $200.00 each. People have to try, don't call them crazy, or what not for trying. Trying and failing is better than doing nothing.
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05-01-2011 04:48 PM  10 years ago
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Trying and failing is better than doing nothing.
+1

I keep thinking about how crazy and stupid those people were that thought putting an electric motor on a heli was a good idea, now look at the hobby.
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05-01-2011 05:31 PM  10 years ago
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I keep thinking about how crazy and stupid those people were that thought putting an electric motor on a heli was a good idea, now look at the hobby.
Is satisfying a market demand and making a profit crazy and stupid?

Anyone that is not a capitalist would think so I suppose.
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