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04-27-2011 04:59 AM  10 years ago
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wrathofkhan

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‘Unbiased’ Gyro Review
Hello,

Now that a lot of us have shifted over to Flybarless, I was hoping to get some honest feedback about your experience with Heading Hold/Tail Lock gyros. Some of us are still using them, and your unbiased feedback might be invaluable. As for me:

* Futaba 401 – Tail held pretty darned good, piro rate were not that consistent, overall an excellent gyro, a work horse – most of us had this at one time or another (over the years, I personally must have owned at least 5 of these)

* Logitech 2100 – Tiny gyro, meant for small electric helis. Held really well, once set up properly … prone to vibration, takes a while to setup. Piro consistency was exceptional.

* JR 770 – Excellent gyro, nice metal casing. Holding power, specially stopping power with the 3500/8900 was incredible. Very good piro rate.

* JR370 – Every bit as good as the 770, only smaller – nice metal case also!

* JR270 – Even smaller than the 370, with plastic casing. This gyro is good for electric helis only (tiny to mid-sized). Setup was similar to the 370/770 (if memory serves me correctly). I don’t think the holding capability of this gyro was almost as good as the 770/370.

* PG800 – Intertia or the PG series, although they got a lot of flak – for me it was the best gyro I have ever owned. It held the tail perfectly, piro rate was consistent and smooth, and with the programming box – it was highly customize-able. Servicing might have been a problem but I was lucky and never had to send it in. For that matter, I never had to send in any of my gyros for repairs since they were always mounted in a secure place, plus they just worked as they are supposed to!

Will appreciate it if you could put in your $0.02 about gyros.

Cheers, Khan
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04-27-2011 05:19 AM  10 years ago
Wingman77

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I don't use any of them anymore but my favorites were the total-g, mini-g and the spartan. all of those held amazingly even through rough piro maneuvers.
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04-27-2011 06:26 AM  10 years ago
Ladymagic

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The most effective gyros I've owned to date would the Futaba GY520 and the Futaba 611. Personally, I think there no such thing as a bad Futaba gyro from all of me experience with many different types. I'm still using them to this day. The Spartan 760 follows closely behind it. Align gyros are okay for less demanding applications, but I would trust it as much for my larger 3D machines. JR gyros are ranked at the bottom of a long list of gyros I've flown over the past 8 years. Out them, I've owned the 500T...which was okay and the 7000T which was also okay, but too bulky.

The all time worst gyro I've ever owned was the JR770. I actually owned three of them at one point becuase the first one seemed to be exactly what I wanted in the beginning. I was never able to repeat those settings on the other two 770's and the one that did work well at the start began to fade after a few months and I couldn't ever get it dialed back to that state. Near the end, I couldn't even get them to hold well enough to do a basic tic toc. Awful...3 770's, 3 different helis, 3 different set of problems....none of which I could ever get resolved. I fought with those three gyros for over 2 years and tried everything, and even reset them countless times before gave up on them and replaced them all with either Futaba or Spartan gyros. I'll never own another 770 ever again and although I love many JR products, I will stay away from JR gyros until they can figure out how make good ones.

That's just my opinion and I know many pilots who've had very good luck with them, but they did not work well at all for me.
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04-27-2011 07:13 AM  10 years ago
OICU812

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Single axis gyro IMHO the gy520 worked a treat....Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
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04-27-2011 07:26 AM  10 years ago
Sam2b

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I've had rock solid performance with the Spartan series gyros and no fuss to set up. Spartan holds up to the most demanding maneuvers too._Sam B_
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04-27-2011 02:42 PM  10 years ago
integy2

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My vote.
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04-27-2011 03:09 PM  10 years ago
Richardmid1

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Solid-g and Mini-g were/are the best for me, being able to adjust the piro gain to make piros even more consistant is a big plus point. I also like the feel of the GP750 although not as consistant as the G's, I liked the Quark but found the GP750 more consistant.

Tail servo selection and machanical setup can make or break a gyros performance, the above were used with a DS650, 9254 and 8900G, I am yet to own a narrow pulse width servo.
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04-27-2011 03:41 PM  10 years ago
Rogman88

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Still have a 401 on my 450. It gives way sometimes in fast backward flight, but overall ok

My GY 611/9256 combo was awesome! The tail was extremely predictable and I never saw it wag. Not once. The guy who owned it before me had set the gain to 34 so that's what I did and that was it. I still have it in a box by the way if anyone wants to make any offers...
High Voltage just works better
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04-27-2011 05:24 PM  10 years ago
Wedge77

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Wrath.. Im glad you had good luck with Inertia.. mine wouldnt see the programming box, gave me another that didnt work and the third lasted all of 4 flights. wont go into details but.. that one would rate at the extreme BOTTOM of my gyro list JR NEX E8, 12 cell
Goblin 630, 12 cell
Vibe 50N Fbl
Century E640 Fbl, 12 Cell
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04-27-2011 05:43 PM  10 years ago
Solmanbandit

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Bottom of the barrel for gyro's is the E-flite gyro. They aren't worth a a diddly. I have a friend who uses a JR gyro and I am not impressed with it at all. I use the Futaba GY520 and love it. Some people try to talk me into the Spartan, but I am more than pleased with the Futaba. If it isn't broke, then why fix it! I agree with the tail servo, to have a servo that will match the performance of the gyro is critical.Trex 700E / Trex 500 ESP - Ikon/ HD 500 - Ikon 2/ Goblin 500 Ikon 2
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04-27-2011 05:58 PM  10 years ago
lolramen

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The 7703D is the only gyro I've ever used. It's a pain to get setup JUST right, but once you do it works quite well. I'm pretty demanding on my tail in my flights, and I've never had it blow out. I've considered many times getting a new gyro, but lack of funds has kept me flying the 770 for quite a while.
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04-27-2011 05:59 PM  10 years ago
Ronald Thomas

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I have used the Futabas, Spartans, Aligns, JR, CY, and VBAR. The best single axis gyro IMO was the 520, it was the closest to a VBAR tail I could get. Very consistent and powerful. I did not like the light setup but it could be done. VBAR is the best period IMO but that is a little more than a single axis
The GY401 is the easiest to setup and for sport flying it is great. Tail would not hold in backwards flight but it was still a good one......Ron
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04-27-2011 06:02 PM  10 years ago
tadawson

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I have a LogicTech 6100 w/servo, and while I don't have a lot of hours on it, it seems to perform quite well also . . . My 401's are solid, if not totally stellar, and my Solid-G is likely my favorite as well . . .

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04-27-2011 06:31 PM  10 years ago
reddragon

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I've used a few over the years, none stood out as the best over another, but Futaba always hit it on the head with their gyros. Nice, easy to set up and never a problem from any of the units I have.

The CSM's were good as well. No real complaints about them.

I haven't tried the Align units but I haven't heard good things about them so I decided to pass on them.

I would try the Spartan as they seem to have an excellent track record.

The JR gyros were always a headache for me as Ladymagic stated. I mean always. Set them up just right and the next day you have little nagging problems again, I gave up on them after implanting their 500T in one of my helis and never looked back. Despite having JR gear their gyros never worked as well as I had hoped. Each one before the 500T was problematic as well, probably because they were piezo units. I have most sitting in my spares box and have sold some of the rest. I'm not sure about the 7703D but they never seemed to get the gyros right so I stayed away.
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04-27-2011 07:44 PM  10 years ago
Richardmid1

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Forgot about CSM, I had a SL560e and loved it, small, light and very easy to setup.

FWIW the Align GP750 is near the top of my list but the GP780 is near the bottom!
60% of the time, it works every time!
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04-27-2011 08:24 PM  10 years ago
FenderBean

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never had problems with a futaba, i have owned them all lol
I did like my inertia but they went out of business so I sold all mine.
I hate align gyros
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04-27-2011 08:41 PM  10 years ago
jackheli

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Futaba 611 and 9256 never let me down. Tricky to setup and lots of different opinions on how to get it done though.

Been a CSM fan for a very long time. The 720 is an amazing gyro, anything as good as the best. Holds like a rock, easy to setup and VERY configurable. I still have many flying on my machines. Unfortunately CSM decided to give up on the NA market, so there is absolutely no technical support or anybody to talk to if you run into problems. You are on your own (Am I the sole user in NA?) I got fed up with them and moved on.

Where did I go? Inertia... again, everything as good as the best, but support... don't get me started.

I seem to always have very good technical but very poor business insights.
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04-27-2011 09:04 PM  10 years ago
reddragon

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Where did I go? Inertia... again, everything as good as the best, but support... don't get me started.

I seem to always have very good technical but very poor business insights.
It happens to the best of us!
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04-27-2011 09:33 PM  10 years ago
bwillman

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I've used Futaba 401, Logictech 2100, CY Mini-G, and Futaba gy520. The Mini-G is my favorite, with the Futaba 520 next. On the Mini-G, all I did was set the direction, limits, and gain, and it is solid. Still tweaking on the 520's, and they are pretty good, but still not as solid as the Mini-G. The Logictech 2100 was alright, but always felt kind of vague
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04-27-2011 09:36 PM  10 years ago
Rockohaulic

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Hey Khan buddy.

So let me see - we are gong to rate gyros that we are never going to use again because we are going to flybarless. Is that about right???

Muahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Well yes, the 401 was a great gyro. But you can get a Futaba 520 for the same amount of money - and it is a much better gyro. And smaller.

I have flown with the following gyros:
Fut 401
Fut 240
Fut 520
Solid-G
Mini-G
LogicTech
Spartan ds760
Spartan Quark

To me, the best performing gyros were the Spartan gyros.
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