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04-26-2011 02:58 AM  10 years ago
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Need Feedback on the 50
Im looking at building a new 50, can you guys give me some insight on the Q, I would like to have TT tail. Ive looked around at different sights and there are severals different kits for the 50's, which one is the lastest and greastest, and who carries the most parts for them aretheparts cost inline or cheaper than other helis on the market.

I have heard through the grapevine that these thing are some kind of fast on cyclic but dothey have control, Ive had super fast helis that we have mod up but there were issues in fast foward flight, it seems to get one you give up the other, Im just wondering what the issues with the Q's are all makes have issues of some kind whether its the build, flying, pitching ETC ETC. it just depends on whether your willing todeal with that set of issues, they have one thing going for them already in my book they look good and sleek that got to count for something.

Thanks in advance for any input guys, Im hoping you can help me make up my mind on this one.
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04-26-2011 05:38 AM  10 years ago
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If you want TT and all the extras e.g. metal tail drive, all extra frame braces, canopies...etc get yourself the Vision 50 CXE.

Its the only kit with TT so you dont really have a choice. The standard Vision 50 Competition kit comes with belt drive (plastic), plastic main rotor grips and doesnt include the extra bracing for the front skids and engine mount base..

Basically ElyQ grabbed all there upgrades for the standard v50 kit and through them into a box = Vision 50 C XE kit.
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04-26-2011 02:22 PM  10 years ago
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360wings
Thanks for the input, Im trying to make up my mind there's to many kits to choose from

I've looked at the Vibe nex, Fury 55, both have higher crash cost and the 600le but I would like to have something different than the align that seems to be all that's around where we fly, so that makes you a little tired of them after a while.

Making up my mind is harder than women buying shoes, if there is anybody else that has input on the ElyQ, Id be glad to hear it

Thanks again
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04-26-2011 02:39 PM  10 years ago
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BTW
Are they kits good quality and fit or are they Dremel tool kits, do they have a lot of interaction around the swash where you have to use a bunch of mixes or are the pretty netural for a ccpm setup, I guess what Im saying is some heli take a lot of programing after the setup and others after the standard setup mixes(low, mid high) they seem to handle with just a few minor tweeks. I do alot of ail rolls when I fly (rolling circles,rolling loops etc) and I like to get most interaction out mechanical and not have to be a computer programmer.

Sorry for all the question, but just trying to get up to speed with the Q's
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04-27-2011 02:00 AM  10 years ago
wifeorheli

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10X i have a v50c belt and i must say everything went together with no mods no problems just a overall great build. I enjoyed it. Now onto the cyclics they are very very fast right out of the box. The head is fully programmable to fit your flying style! i had to tone it down with expo you feel so locked onto this heli when you fly its amazing you could see the shakes in the heli from my hands Its what you would exspect from direct to swash setup. They also have the FAI style pushpull availuable to. I highly reccomend it. Check my gallery out. Great priced to let me know if you need anything
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04-27-2011 02:40 AM  10 years ago
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Looking good,I hear there super fast that good as long as it dont take away from somewhere else. did your come with the metal head, blade grips and tail grips or did you upgrade that, I can live with a belt tail if I had to, theres not that much different between the two.

You got a good looking heli there!!!!!!!!
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04-27-2011 04:50 AM  10 years ago
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thanx man not understanding what you mean by the taking away part. Yes i woulda had to upgrade but the company forgot to update the pictures when they changed to plastic grips and metal boom so when i bought it then got my kit i was pissed but they took care of me and gave it to me then changed the picture so i got hooked up the grips are just bling and so are the tail grips they serve no purpose but sure look sweet and the carbon boom if i need a new one i will get the metal carbon cool but alot of flex and suc if you tighten anything down to hard it breaks. In my personal opinion i will stay with the belt. Honastly i dont think the average flyer will tell the difference its when you get to the "PRO" status you can tell. Plus more money ina crash!
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04-27-2011 01:41 PM  10 years ago
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The take away part Im referring to is on a lot of good 3D helis they seem to be great for fast on the deck hard cyclic and collective changes, but when you go into fast ff big air style maneuvers they track like a snake and the rolls look like a cork screw on a roller coaster ride and hovering them they just do what they want and you fight them while they do it.

ElyQ I see after looking at alot of pictures has a lot of adjustment so Im assuming it can be adjusted to find that happy medium between quick and control. I like to do quick 3d with big air FAI style mixed in and have it as smooth as possible. Don't get me wrong Im no Curtis Youngblood by any means but I have had helis in the past that forced you into flying smack style because they just weren't going to be able to fly big graceful maneuver

Im looking for the best heli in the world for cheap
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04-27-2011 02:02 PM  10 years ago
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I bought mine last summer and have nothing but good to say,they do need all the extra frame braces to make sure nothing slips or is to flimsy,I tried a raptor 50 bottom frame but you can't remove the engine without pulling it first,much easier w/the Q's.I would also recommend using the add on gyro mount and moving it forward as well as down. +1 on a metal boom, Raptor,Frenzy any boom that fits these fit's the Q. I didn't like the plastic front end so made up some carbon parts to replace them as well.Some build pic's in my gallery,(display all).One other thing, they tend to be a little tail heavy so a larger receiver battery is in order.

Hope this helps.....
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04-27-2011 10:40 PM  10 years ago
wifeorheli

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nice heli "8" how did you mount your support rods? i see you used the outer balls on the flybar how did that effect the heli? 10x the heli tracks great take a look at 8's gallery he has it setup with the pushpull wich tones it down a little as far as control. the heli is fully programmable to suit any flying style i dont think you will be sorry.
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04-28-2011 01:22 AM  10 years ago
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Looks like Im gonna have to go for it.

My last question is who is the best to deal with as far as price on the kits, and who keeps the best stock on hand for parts.

Thanks for the input
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04-28-2011 01:44 AM  10 years ago
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As the other have said you can set the head up to be fast and aggressive,slower and more precise or somewhere in between.

Like with any FB heli if you set the mechanic geometry properly when your setting up the bird and use good quality servos you should have minimal interactions which are easily dial out using your radio..

If your more into FAI flying then you can get a FAI swash, and as already mentioned there are the push/pull upgrades for this style of flying.

I didnt have any problems with the build, no dremel required. There are two "mods" (if you can call them that) which are well documented on the forums.

1. The stock dampers are very hard. replace with Raptor 50 dampers.
2. The tail rotor locking pin should be loctited in and wrap a small piece of electrical tape around the shaft to cover the holes. Have been reports of the pin coming loose in flight.. This fixes the problem.

The Competition is no Hirobo or JR but I feel the kit is good value and decent quality. No issues with obtaining spares, a good number of retailers world wide now carry ElyQ parts.

I am keen to see a Vision 90 up close as Im sure the lessons and information ElyQ gained from the 50 have been used to product a better 90.

Keep us posted. Im interested to see which heli you purchase and why.
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04-28-2011 05:30 AM  10 years ago
wifeorheli

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+1 tail pin- had the mishap the other weekend! Dont forget to get the ely bottom plate must have!
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04-28-2011 07:40 AM  10 years ago
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XE kit includes the bottom base plate... (95% sure)..
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04-28-2011 02:42 PM  10 years ago
wifeorheli

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that would be a good call from the manufacturer +1 on that. Im not sure if it does but that would be coool. And what about the front frame stiffners?
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04-28-2011 03:24 PM  10 years ago
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Yep found the link on ElyQ's site with the current kit configs.

XE has both front frame braces and bottom brace.

http://elyq.com/en/v50_versions.php


Vision 50 Ultimate

• Third Bearing Block Set with Extended Hardened Main Shaft
• V50 Competition One-Way Auto-rotation System
• Front Tail Servo Set
• Metal Tail Pulley

Vision 50 Competition

• Painted Fiberglass Canopy
• Aluminum Tail Boom
• Aluminum Tail Boom Braces
• Carbon Reinforced Plastic Main Rotor Grips

Vision 50 Competition XE

• Torque Tube Tail Drive
• 1 White and 1 Painted Fiberglass Canopies
• 1 Aluminum and 1 Carbon Fiber Tail Boom
• Metal Tail Rotor Grips
• Metal Tail Case
• Metal stabilizer Fin Bracket
Carbon Fiber Bottom Frame
Carbon Fiber Frame Brace
• Carbon Fiber Flybar Paddles
• Carbon Fiber Tail Blades
• Tail Boom Brace End Spacers
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04-29-2011 03:13 AM  10 years ago
wifeorheli

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Call chris at rcheliworkz.com he will give ya the rundown. Very knowlagable about this specific heli.
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