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04-25-2011 09:23 PM  10 years ago
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FrosT

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Good Lord this forum/site is titanic...help a newb pick a chopper?
I'm sorry fellas, I'm sure this has been asked 100 times.. (please don't tell me to use the search feautre.. )

I've always wanted to get into R/C helis- I purchased a Blade CP when they first came out, and I followed the instructions to the letter- all I got was endless amounts of frustration..it would just want to spin endlessly clockwise regardless of trim settings/adjustments. Sold it without even having left the ground.

I've heard a few times that even though I'm brand new and have never flown, I should buy a big huge heli because they're more stable- can someone suggest a wonderful heli for a beginner like me?

I know I want a real one, a quality kit, not a counter rotating dual blade starter heli.. but I am (liek most) on a budget...

Oh gosh... where to begin?!
I came to confess. I was the second gunman on the grassy knoll.
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04-25-2011 09:28 PM  10 years ago
rchelichop

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I would suggest a Trex 500 to Trex 550. They are right in between too small and too big. Align is a good brand because they are the top dogs as far as heli popularity and good flying models for the money, spare parts as the cheapest around with quality and parts will be plentiful.

Get FBL cause thats the way things are happening, no need to learn flybar and then go back and learn FBL. Get good electronics, preferably servos with metal gears. Fly cheap SWE blades, they are very good for the money.
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04-25-2011 09:31 PM  10 years ago
rushpilot

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[quote]I would suggest a Trex 500
+1 on the 500. If I was to do it all over again, I would have skipped the Trex 450 and started w/ the 500.
“The helicopter is evidence of how man's imagination can be given physical form.”
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04-25-2011 09:45 PM  10 years ago
FrosT

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Thanks! Like this model number KX017014A? The T-rex 500e? I'm sorry I don't understand FBL?I came to confess. I was the second gunman on the grassy knoll.
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04-25-2011 09:46 PM  10 years ago
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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1+ for an Align helicopter. Parts are EVERYWHERE, and when you're a newbie, getting parts quickly is the name of the game.Avant RC
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04-25-2011 09:46 PM  10 years ago
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FrosT
....I purchased a Blade CP when they first came out, and I followed the instructions to the letter- all I got was endless amounts of frustration..it would just want to spin endlessly clockwise regardless of trim settings/adjustments. Sold it without even having left the ground.

I know I want a real one, a quality kit, not a counter rotating dual blade starter heli.. but I am (liek most) on a budget...
If you want to start the right way, I would really suggest that you start by finding local help. Here are a few sites to get you in contact with some heli pilots in your area:
http://www.modelaircraft.org/clubsearch.aspx
http://pilotlocator.net/home.php

Ask them what they fly and why. Buy the most popular heli of your new made friends.

Rafael
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04-25-2011 09:48 PM  10 years ago
rushpilot

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That kit is a "flybarred" heli.“The helicopter is evidence of how man's imagination can be given physical form.”
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04-25-2011 10:46 PM  10 years ago
Tradhunt

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I would do like suggested and find local help and buy a Sim first. Fly the sim while building you're new Heli and meet a couple locals that want to help you(most Heli guys like helping new comers) have them check you're setup before its first flight to make sure everything is working right and maybe see if they will buddy box you.

I would definitely get a good sim first. Then look into a 500,550, or a 50/600 size Heli.

Just my thoughts.
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04-25-2011 10:57 PM  10 years ago
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O boy asking that question here you will not get a "RIGHT" answer. Everyone has there own opinion. But i fly now a elyq v50c which i dont think i would reccomend for a beginner from my own personal experiances. Now i have owned a trex 600n and loved it half my electronics are align. Align is everywhere so for a newbe i would say get a align. (or a good old thunder tiger raptor cant go wrong with one of those)
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04-26-2011 03:52 AM  10 years ago
RCHSF

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Buy a Simulator First. Maybe Realflight, that way if it's not for you then you want have sunk a grand into the hobby. Spend about 40 hours on the sim. Then decide if your in out out. Buy a T-rex 450, the best, and cheapest way to begin and learn to fly, and also not as dangerous or lethal.
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04-26-2011 03:59 AM  10 years ago
BigBadBaker

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+1 on the sim

but starting with a 500 no way!!!! you need to start with a fixed pitch like a blade sr120 or a trex 100 or maybe even a honeybee

these helis crash very well and 99 out of 100 times if you kill the trottle there is no damage(except maybe the honeybee)
If you stay Higher it takes longer to crash
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04-26-2011 04:13 AM  10 years ago
Santiago P

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I would suggest a used Raptor 30, 50 or use Venture or Pantera, all very stable and cheap, BUT only if you had someone to help you set up and test it for you.

If you don't have an experienced heli pilot to help you

get a flight Sim.
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04-26-2011 06:38 AM  10 years ago
JOLT

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Do you know anyone who flies helis?

Reason I ask, is that when I started out, I read everything I could to understand what was going on with a helicopter when it did something I didn't understand.

I would forge ahead, usually ending with a crash, cussing, and a burnt credit card.

If you sold the CP before figuring out what was causing the problem, you might not want to go at assembling a Trex 500 without some expertise by your side.

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04-26-2011 06:47 AM  10 years ago
FrosT

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Thanks for all the help fellas- I am grateful. My love for helis started in 1990, playing an old heli game called Steel Talons, with "real heli flight" and similar controls.

I do not know anyone here that flys helis. I tried sims in the past for planes, they just pissed me off and I couldn't use them as it didn't seem real. I went out, bought a Stryker F27C, hand launched it, and have been flying ever since, even inverted my 3rd flight.

I have hovered helis in a sim at the hobby shop, even gone to idle up, and hovered inverted.. but a sim is a sim, not the real deal. I still can't even do a single figure 8 in a sim- as it is to foreign of a feel to me. Helis are most certainly a different animal.

So it sounds liek you all suggest a (mainly) an Align T-Rex 500, electric or gas? I do have a spektrum dx6i, will this be sufficient?
I came to confess. I was the second gunman on the grassy knoll.
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04-26-2011 10:51 AM  10 years ago
Bladecpnitro

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I'd get a Blade MCPX full collective mini-heli if I started today. I started out with a Execuheli then got a Blade MCX2 then got a used Blade CP that needed some work and now have a Blade SR which I am almost nose in hovering after 4 months of flying. That may sound like along time but most of my flying has been inside through out those final winter months where I had to pretty much stay tail in.

I wish they had had the Collective pitch Blade MCPX when I bought the MCX2 last January. I think I'm still gonna have to have one of these eventually. I said I'd never buy another Heli with a tail motor. I lied. . You can get one of these and a couple extra batteries and fly almost non stop.

Blade MCPX

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Its always nice to have something that will fly in the house on windy rainy days. And this can't hurt you much if it hits you going full blast.

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04-26-2011 02:19 PM  10 years ago
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I do not know anyone here that flys helis. I tried sims in the past for planes, they just pissed me off and I couldn't use them as it didn't seem real. I went out, bought a Stryker F27C, hand launched it, and have been flying ever since, even inverted my 3rd flight.

I have hovered helis in a sim at the hobby shop, even gone to idle up, and hovered inverted.. but a sim is a sim, not the real deal. I still can't even do a single figure 8 in a sim- as it is to foreign of a feel to me. Helis are most certainly a different animal.
I was going to go through a whole long post about why your above post proves you need to listen to the post that Rafael23cc took the time to write...there really are not too many short cuts to be taken with a heli.... the new sims are very realistic and a great training aid, but there is no replacement for experience... you have none, so find someone that does...it's that plain and simple... you need not only to learn how to fly, but also how to set up a trimmed machine so that it will be flyable...
Use the search engine and you WILL find pilots in your area.. you have some of the BEST in your area...and they will be glad to help you get started not only safely, but with the right equipment and knowledge needed to progress with your hobby... Good Luck....
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04-26-2011 02:46 PM  10 years ago
Zaaaguy72

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Simulator, then Trex 500. Once the addiction sets in, maybe a couple Logos!Team Sanjel!
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04-26-2011 03:12 PM  10 years ago
Band1086

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+1 on the sim then a Trex 550. It's the same size as a 30N but with a lot more potential. Pretty cheap to fly and very stable. I learned to fly a 30N inverted waist high many years ago, it's a perfect size beginner heli!
Before the 550 came out I would have recommended a 600 or a 500, but now the 550 is the one.
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04-26-2011 05:51 PM  10 years ago
FrosT

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Doorman, noted- thanks to all, this really has been a HUGE help, and I have heard of the ALign T-rex many times before- although Raptor seemed to stand out more in my mind- perhaps that more pro and comes later on.

Sure is cool that local heli pros are so willing to help- sounds TOTALLY DIFFERENT than R/C planes or cars.
I came to confess. I was the second gunman on the grassy knoll.
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04-26-2011 09:57 PM  10 years ago
Zaaaguy72

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Try to get yourself out to a heli fun fly. Good place to meet folks who will guide you in the right direction.Team Sanjel!
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