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04-26-2011 01:54 AM  10 years ago
Rogman88

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The amateurs prayed before the incident. The pros prayed after it was too late in the said example.High Voltage just works better
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04-26-2011 01:57 AM  10 years ago
Mr.Green

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I've noticed a few helis for sale recently that say they were built professionally. It made me laugh a little bit. Personally, if I buy anything used I go through it and check everything out. The last thing I want is a totaled heli over a bad part failing. I bought a motor not to long ago from a guy who had modified it slightly. He never mentioned it in his add, and when I questioned it he said "this is what all us pros do". I had a good laugh over that one. He acted like I was an idiot and he and his "pro" buddies know way more than I possibly could. There are a lot of people on here who are "professionals" in their own mind but not in anyone elses.
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04-26-2011 02:01 AM  10 years ago
bopshi

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Pros and"pros"
Worked on real aircraft for 28 years and saw some real scary stuff on real aircraft. We would repair a specific item for a customer and the rest of the plane was such a heap we would refuse to test fly it. Of course if it was in for a anual or 100 hour we would ground it. Told a Pro aerobatic pilot he better repair his throttle cable soon, he ignored it and crashed landed at Jones Beach nearly taking out a kid!
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04-26-2011 02:03 AM  10 years ago
BladeStrikes

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+1 Mr.Green ..
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04-26-2011 03:40 AM  10 years ago
Crashr30

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Professionally, maybe not!!
Would you buy a heli from a guy who JB Welded the boom into the end of the machine because it did not fit so he used JB Weld?

Though I said I would buy a machine that Curtis Youngblood built I did forget about the Futura SE story. Curtis designed the SE back in his younger days. The old Futuras had a hex boom. Curtis wanted a lighter boom while he was creating the SE. So the story goes he shows up at a funfly with this modified Futura with a hex boom recepticle and a round MA Boom with plenty of JB Weld in between. Turned out to be a great machine...........but maybe one I would stay away from, at least that one. Heck, back in the day Curtis was famous for his Dremel tool mods at the field!!

Just thought that to be a fun story.
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04-26-2011 07:20 AM  10 years ago
philip 01

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i run a crew that "professionally" builds UH-60 Blackhawk and Seahawk airframes. Did a little "professional" building myself back in the day.

i do a little "professional" rc heli building myself on a side uav project. if that's what they call it these days.

if you build "professionally", be prepared to show your resume and photo's of your "stuff". there are a few of each in my gallery.

however i've never sold an rc heli that i claimed was "professionally" built.

an rc heli is a 'snap-together' compared to the real deal.

so if you claim to be a "professional" rc heli builder, remember, it's all relative.
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04-26-2011 11:04 AM  10 years ago
Heliguychris

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depends on the proffesional.

I dont trust any heli i dont build myself, like a lot of you guys by the sounds.

Ive seen scale guys swear by their building of 3d helis, you can just see wont last. Yes the servos are mounted perfectly, and the geometry is a thing of artwork, but they just tape in a rx pack with a cheap cheesy piece of velcore......" dude, i was planning on actually doing a piro in that thing"

Ive built the ugliest choppers, that you could give to Bobby, and he couldnt break, and get hundreds of care free flights on, but without all the cable wrap, and heatshrink etc.... whos gunna call that professional?
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04-26-2011 12:33 PM  10 years ago
Ronald Thomas

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Definition of a professional......50 miles and a breifcase

Now I will say this....any heli built by Justin Stewart is a professionally built heli
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04-26-2011 01:58 PM  10 years ago
The Old Guy

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Would you say a "Profesional" is an "expert" ?

Well i heard this definition of an Expert.
"X" is an undifined quantity and "spert" is a drop of water under pressure..
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04-26-2011 02:12 PM  10 years ago
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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"Professionally Built" means that you DO NOT have to disassemble the helicopter before you fly it. Seriously, how many guys out there would you buy a helicopter from, bind your receiver, and go fly? I can think of one: CNCjunkie. I would fly one of his helis without worrying for one minute that he forgot to Loctite a spindle shaft screw. But good work like this is the rare exception. The majority of people seem to do pretty questionable work.Avant RC
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04-26-2011 02:20 PM  10 years ago
red_z06

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I've understood "pro" being someone who is qualified and certified to be in the trade/service of a particular trade.

While you can ask for a aide with/without pay from someone who is better than you to help you, that does not make him/her a pro.

Sometime you ask someone to build a heli for you because,

You do not have time.
You do not have the knowledge.

To give an example of Golf, teaching pro is someone who is recognized by PGA (or other organization) as someone fit to teach for money. However, for economic reasons, you can choose someone who is very good but not a pro to help you for free or for less money. This still does not make someone a pro.

Same goes for garage mechanic who is ASE certified vs home grown.

In a sense that there are no qualification tests to perform, even paid builder is still only a hobbyist.

But I guess there are exceptions such as carpenters and masons. I do not know of any certifications for those trades and the like.
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04-26-2011 02:54 PM  10 years ago
Dood

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Perhaps "expert built" is a better term to use? I can't fly worth a darn, but I'm an expert builder.   ▲
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04-26-2011 03:05 PM  10 years ago
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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I think the term "expert builder" is a good term to use, and I would like to compile a list of all the expert builders in the classifieds section. These are the guys who do it right the first time. They build with precision. You're never going to pull one of their helicopters apart to find a thrust bearing inserted backwards. These are the guys who can build as good or better than you can, but who actually like building which reflects in their work.Avant RC
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04-26-2011 03:21 PM  10 years ago
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Proffesional built the titanic, amateurs built the ark
The amateurs were guided by an actual professional

I purchased a 600 nitro pro that was supposed to have been "professionally built and serviced" when I received it all the ball links were on backwards, the frame cracked, tail gears stripped, and to my astonishment the fan screws had not even been tightened which locked up when I tried starting it. Some kind of professionals out there and that's not even everything that was wrong with it!
!!For some people the sky is the limit, for me it's home!!
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04-26-2011 05:19 PM  10 years ago
koppter

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the classified have simply degenerated into a used car lot where instead of being driven by a old lady on sundays, it's now "professionally built" or "expertly assembled", or some other meaningless garbage. there was an ad recently for an erector set heli where the builder lauded himself as a professional and then went on to brag as to how the buyer should be happy that it was assembled by someone so gifted. oh well. caveat emptor
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04-26-2011 06:35 PM  10 years ago
KopterKat

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I think the term "expert builder" is a good term to use, and I would like to compile a list of all the expert builders in the classifieds section. These are the guys who do it right the first time. They build with precision. You're never going to pull one of their helicopters apart to find a thrust bearing inserted backwards. These are the guys who can build as good or better than you can, but who actually like building which reflects in their work.
Most modern kit are packaged with the K.I.S.S principal in mind. Numbered bags. Keeping parts together for sub assembly construction makes it pretty easy to put your model together correctly the first. Follow the yellow brick road and use Loctite.

If you build more than three kit you'll quickly become an expert at building.

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04-26-2011 07:10 PM  10 years ago
GyroFreak

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I bought a 700 size gasser from a hobby shop owner who flew a lot and used it for AP work (Paid AP work) so I thought this machine had to be perfect. After I flew it for about 10 mins it flamed out. Long story short, turned out he screwed up the carburetor just before he sold it to me. It scored the cylinder and piston so the engine had to be rebuilt.
He did make good on the repairs so I guess I would consider him a professional.
The case against politicians simply is that when they legislate for all men, they always omit themselves
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04-26-2011 08:15 PM  10 years ago
RajSingh

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expert build
Wouldn't mind heli built by gasser guru raja bortcosh. i have him work on my gassers a few times.
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04-26-2011 08:16 PM  10 years ago
KopterKat

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No consider him an honest person.
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04-26-2011 08:19 PM  10 years ago
KopterKat

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Wouldn't mind heli built by gasser guru raja bortcosh. i have him work on my gassers a few times.
Well you got a point, because with a few thousand flights and the maintenance to go with it I think it's safe to say he knows what he's doing.

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