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04-24-2011 01:50 PM  7 years ago •• Post 1 ••
KingCobra Heli

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I got a Fury 55 flybar version and noticed it came with plastic mixing arms and big honkey plastic blade grips. It's $122 just to upgrade to metal blade grips. The flybarless version comes with these (why?). I don't know for the price of the kit it should already come with them. I'm not a fan of plastic. I like the looks of this kit but not happy about plastic. The canopy has a very small crack in the bottom corner about 1/2" when I pulled it out to look at it, this isn't starting well. I haven't started it yet......Don't know

This is not a lash out at MA or anyone representing them. I think their great that's why I got one. But wanted to discuss my take so far.

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04-24-2011 02:21 PM  7 years agoPost 2
planeflier

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I have been flying my Fury 55 for over a year with the plastics blade grips without a problem. This is my favorite heli out of my fleet and gets the most flights. You will enjoy it just build it as is.

If you not breaking it your not trying hard enough

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04-24-2011 02:40 PM  7 years agoPost 3
fastflyer20

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I have read the plastic blade grips can help dampen vibration. They are oversized, so strength is not an issue. The only reason to go for metal is for bling.

The canopies suck. You will quickly have cracks everywhere, especially around the grommets. I would love to see a Fusano canopy, Canomods are way too brittle.

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04-24-2011 06:04 PM  7 years agoPost 4
ddavison

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Try "Sick" canopys They are nice and durable. Plastic grips work fine. I have used them on the Stratus for years and the 1005 gasser before that.

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04-25-2011 06:38 PM  7 years agoPost 5
KingCobra Heli

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It's seems to me this isn't starting well. Starting with a broken canopy sucks. And I'm not making a bad repor with a local hobby store. That's a no-no.

Why wouldn't they give you the nicer blade grips with the flybar version also? Espsecially for the money. My Velocity is all metal and came with a pipe. I understand this is American and that's what swayed me to buy one. But the flybarless version comes with them!

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04-25-2011 06:43 PM  7 years agoPost 6
Wyorcflyer

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The plastic vs. metal blade grip debate is as bad as Ford v. Chevy.

The plastic grips work as well or better on a .50 size heli as metal. The big difference to most is that metal grips are much more attractive to most people.

I put 40 gal through my Fury 55 with plastic grips, several crashes and they are still working just fine. At least they were until I put an FBL head on it with metal grips.

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04-26-2011 12:32 AM  7 years agoPost 7
Dauste

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You don't get metal blade grips because that's not what you bought.

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04-26-2011 12:49 AM  7 years agoPost 8
KingCobra Heli

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Dauste, you have a flair for the obvious!

Everyone else who had intelligent answers Thank You for taking time in answering me.

My point is that you get them with the flybarless and not the flybar version. Are they not quite strong enough for flybarless? For the money no reason not to include them in this kit. This dawned on me after the fact of owning it. I don't like plastic! I'm sure it will work.

My Velocity came with all metal and a pipe and was less money! This may be for sale!

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04-26-2011 01:39 AM  7 years agoPost 9
Carey Shurley

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Are they not quite strong enough for flybarless?
dude you're not going to hurt those grips!

They are on the model to keep the price competitive and the control arm on that grip is laid out for a flybar setup so they work well there.

Its harder to get the link ball in the right place on that grip for the FBL setup so they had to make new ones. Since they don't have to supply all the flybar parts its sort of a wash.

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04-26-2011 02:43 AM  7 years agoPost 10
MinAirUSA

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Its harder to get the link ball in the right place on that grip for the FBL setup so they had to make new ones. Since they don't have to supply all the flybar parts its sort of a wash
This is correct. The reason why our models cost what they do is because the majority of the model is made here in the U.S., by Americans. It simply costs more to produce an r/c helicopter here rather than say...China. We also use TRUE t-6 6061 aluminum, and high quality U.S. made Carbon fiber, along with high grade hardware. That is something not many other manufacturers can say. Before you sell your Fury 55, why not fly it and let the performance of the model convince you of it's value. I have yet to hear ANYONE say that the 55 flies poorly.

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04-26-2011 03:40 PM  7 years agoPost 11
Dauste

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I suppose my point was in referance to your initial comment that you 'noticed' that it came with plastic grips etc. Did you not notice this before you bought it??

As mentioned new grips had to be designed for FBL and the loss of the FB parts from the kit offsets the cost.

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04-26-2011 05:41 PM  7 years agoPost 12
Crashr30

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Only MInAir can say for sure....
As for plastic grips I prefer them really as they tend to do less damage in a crash, are likely to survive the crash and if I do have to replace them are a lot cheaper. Oh and they fly just fine. I hate to crash and then have to by blade grips or the parts for the metal grip as they are more expensive for any model.

(The below is my opinion)
As for the reason the flybar has plastic grips and the FBL does not is that the geometry is different. To make a new plastic mold is very expensive and takes years to make that money back. Plastic is cheaper by the piece, after the molds are paid for, but not until then. CNC aluminum has a cheaper initial cost but is more expensive by the piece. I believe the 55 blade grips to have been around quite awhile so the molds are paid for. No reason to ditch them as they are great. The aluminum on the FBL head is nice too but that geometry thing makes the difference. Easier to CNC the new parts then make a new mold and make the moeny back. MA is facing a lot more competition these days so, as any smart company should do, utilize what the can to control pricing. This whole paragraph is what only MinAir can comment on.

So go enjoy the machine and beat the heck out of it as it will more than take. If you want a museum piece that looks pretty then maybe metal grips are the way to go but do not worry about flying it whichever way you go.

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05-01-2011 05:03 AM  7 years agoPost 13
KingCobra Heli

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Well I see a lot of you are not bothered by the plastic bladegrips. My father who owned a hobby store in the early 90's and knew the original owner (father and kids) of MinAir and has built more than 100 birds and counting also doesn't mind plastic blade grips.

Myself, I'm looking at the fact that the flybarless version comes with them and they make them for the flybar so why not include them. My canopy was cracked in the kit (very small located under the pipe) but cracked just the same.

Plastic, plastic plastic. The tail slider and links updatable? yes more money, mixing arms, main grips, tail grips etc. etc. plastic.

Maybe another Velocity is for me (metal everywhere). I'm sure these plastic parts work fine and in some cases work better (vibration etc) and MA has been around a long time. And build a great machine. I won't debate that. I remember meating the original owner Walt Schoonard and Tim and Ted (his sons) were there also in I think it was 1988 or 89. Too bad Ted got out.

For my money this isn't starting well and isn't getting better. The more I think about it the more disapointed I get.

629+6.25%MAtax= $668.32 invested so far, so whats this worth?????
Let see what you think? OFFERS???????

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05-01-2011 05:42 AM  7 years agoPost 14
NickVal

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Well, actually I much rather prefer MA Plastic components over 'other' brands metal components any day!

I have flown helicopters (not naming brands) and had metal components break in flight.

MA machines are quality helicopters and IMO metal components are overrated.

That being said, MA make one of the best quality metal components and the kits are worth what you pay for.

The plastic components are tough and cheap to replace and they just work.

However, I can understand where your coming from with not having metal grips in the FB version but keep in mind the extra components in the FB kits.

Oh and My canopy was cracked too when I got it but I soon got over that after building it and flying it

Just my 2c

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05-03-2011 05:00 PM  7 years agoPost 15
frickey295

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so whats this worth?????
It is worth you finishing your heli and flying it.
You will not find a better flying 50 out there !
Plastic and all

Frank
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05-03-2011 07:19 PM  7 years agoPost 16
countrypilot

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Plastic grips
I am still using my stock plastic grips and after a year I have no reason to change to metal.

MA has done an exceptional job on the Fury 55. Bar none it is my best flying 50 heli and I would put it up aginst a lot of 90's.

Simply put it is my always fly-go to heli when I want to enjoy a nice day at the field. I just don't care much for the "over seas" helis since I bought the Fury 55. It is close to a perfect machine and I never have to do unscheduled maintinance to it-just go fly after the customary once over preflight. It's like the energizer bunny-it just keep going and going and always puts a smile on my face.

A good day flying is when you come home with everything in one piece

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05-03-2011 09:10 PM  7 years agoPost 17
3D Heli Ireland

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KingCobra Heli, build it, fly it and you will love it.

Just my personal opinion but it depends what you want and I'm not sure whether that is good functionality of the parts or simply the bling factor. More metal definitely does not imply the helicopter will function any better nor does it necessarily reflect the cost of the machine.

The Fury 55 is a superb helicopter which you are going to love flying.

If you want that extra bling factor then perhaps it isn't the helicopter for you but to be fair it has never pretended to be anything more than it is, it doesn't have to it's awesome as it is and I for one would not want to bling it out because it wouldn't fly any better.

You seem worried about the price of it given the plastic content compared to other metal head/blinged out helicopters? I have owned many of the other current 50's out there and all I can say from my experience is fly the absolute guts out of any other 50 sized machine on the market along side your Fury 55 and in six months time see which helicopter is still tighter with no parts replaced......I know what the answer is even before you do it, I've been there.

Just my opinion and I'm not having a go at all. Fury 55 rocks!!

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05-09-2011 02:47 AM  7 years agoPost 18
KingCobra Heli

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Man a whole week and not one offer. hhmmmmm. Am I out $668.32?
Not gonna go for a lowball offer but man no one else wants it either. It's untouched sealed as it came. Cry towel unused, I used my own lol.

Not a peep about the pre-cracked canopy right from manufacture huh? Others are experiencing this too huh.

Well if I get stuck with it I'll build it but will never be happy with it or not feel I didn't get porked on this one. Just trying to wash my hands of it now. Unhappy owner at this point why go any further.

My point on the blade grips seems to have flown right by (not everyone) so owe well on that one. Can't seem to get the point to stick.

I'm looking at the fact that the flybarless version comes with them and they make them for the flybar so why not include them.

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05-09-2011 03:54 AM  7 years agoPost 19
fastflyer20

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You are correct, we don't get your gripe about the grips.

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05-09-2011 11:44 AM  7 years agoPost 20
KingCobra Heli

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Well fastflyer20, It's been explained several times. My dissapointment is not ONLY with the bladegrips it is on the top of the list though. If you read it's more then just that!

I see you got your Furry55 with a ys56, Hitori, multigov, G5 main &tail blades and only paid $550 from Flyboy5090 on 9-16-2010.

So if you want a full understanding just send $668.32 to me and get this ----- and you can have a full understanding!

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