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04-22-2011 02:15 AM  7 years agoPost 1
dirk_dongler

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Is the DX8 a pile of SH*T?
Morning all,

Couple of weeks ago my FBL t rex 500 went into the floor for no reason.Thought it was the V Bar so took it off and went back to flybar.Trying to setup the quark gyro and the tail servo was not playing the game.Purchased a new one and away we go.

With the new tail servo working i put V bar back on and flew it no probs.

Now it puts all wierd inputs in for no reason again.

Left the 500 FBL at home and went to fly my 600.(DS620 and GP780 gyro)Tail just freaks out and does an amazing impression of an egg whisk

Two different helis and results are the same.

Could it be the radio??????

Turned on Phoenix sim when I got home and guess what?.....the same friggin thing.

Rudder stick wont center correctly and the aileron stick is also not very good.And the old tail servo works fine but intermitantly(which is why its took a while to figure out what is happening)

Not bad going for a radio a few months old.

Horizon Hobby will be getting a phone call from a pis**d off unhappy customer.The radio can go back to the shop for a replacement while this one gets sent away.

And the shop where it was purchased from had better get some combat boots on their kidneys on Saturday morning when I arrive.

And yes its got 2.01 firmware on

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04-22-2011 02:42 AM  7 years agoPost 2
dirk_dongler

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Have other ppl had similar experiences with the radio?

And if so why are they still being sold when the radio puts inputs in all of its own accord?

And what happens if someone gets injured or killed from their negligence in still selling them knowing they are faulty?

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04-22-2011 01:54 PM  7 years agoPost 3
92ARedOne

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Bad pots are relatively common on this radio. You will need to send it in, I did and it was good.

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04-22-2011 05:39 PM  7 years agoPost 4
Switch_639

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3 months on mine, solid usage, no issues

JR-XG8
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04-22-2011 05:49 PM  7 years agoPost 5
504Rone

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Had mine since day one. No problems.

NO FLYBARS

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04-22-2011 05:52 PM  7 years agoPost 6
tomvuong74

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DX8 ??? what is the problem ??
Is it really you guys ? I hear more problem them good things.
I don't know what to do, but I did bought a NIB DX8 few days ago.. it arrive some day next week.

Is there a way to test it before use it ?? Help ??I do not want to kill my pilot buddy's.. LOL.

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04-22-2011 06:01 PM  7 years agoPost 7
rchelichop

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To me, it seems like Spektrums quality has been going down hill since production from my experience. I bought a few DX7s when they first came out. To this day, they are all still working flawlessly. I bought a DX7SE, had a screen freeze and then another DX7SE just went out on me, luckily it was just as a I landed and the heli went into failsafe mode. I've had a few other buddies with later version DX7's and DX7SE's have some issues (screens probs, binding issues, sloppy pots ect). And with the DX8, I hear and have seen issues already and I personally think it looks kmart cheesy and I thought the DX7 looked a little cheesy(not that I'm into looks much though) At this point for me, I will more than likely not be buying another Spektrum radio when the time comes, I have my eye on a JR trans.

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04-22-2011 06:46 PM  7 years agoPost 8
Busher

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Mine seems ok from day one, I can't fault it but see ing all this talk on forums seems to make me want to distrust it, however it works well and continues to.
I think you have a problem with the pots on your tx, send it back and get a replacement and start to enjoy the hobby again.

Good luck
Busher

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04-22-2011 09:46 PM  7 years agoPost 9
onewasp

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Unfortunately Busher that is exactly the goal of many of these posters.

I've got more airtime than many of these guys have lifetimes and I have yet to see the situations (primarily other sites as this one has, in the past, been quite rational) they are passing off as routine; confirmed; and statistically accurate. Which they are not !

Some folks have the innate ability to screw up a steel ball !

On some other sites it was learned that several of the more vehement posters were in fact sponsored by the competition.
My opinion is that accuracy is in the hands of the very few and you need to know your sources.

But, human nature and wild imaginations plus, of course, the ability to screw up steel balls comes into play.

Note: I am in no way connected to HH, Spektrum nor do I have any financial interests in the RC industry.
I am simply tired of reading rash BS posted as fact and I have both the experience and the exalted age to allow me to get away with it !
For the Bitc***s, consider your TS card punched.

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04-22-2011 10:12 PM  7 years agoPost 10
Santiago P

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Is a mixed bag with the DX.8

I have a friend who ordered on early release, and had the TX replaced TWICE, because of multiple issues (could not bind any of his older Rx). Not user fault as Horizon admited the problem. (plank user)

On the other hand, I have my other heli buddies who have been flying the pi$$ out of theirs and like them.

The early issues were not imagined, like with other Spektrum products, I don't think they did enough R&D before releasing it. They are catching up, hopefully.

IMO, I dont think Spektrum have ever measure up to JR quality, that is why they were released backdoor to begin with.
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04-22-2011 10:14 PM  7 years agoPost 11
Ejeremy

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I heard if you open the tx up and unplug the pots and plug them back in your problem will be resolved!!

This is another reason I don't fly spektrum $#|+ anymore!

Good luck Jeremy

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04-23-2011 12:00 AM  7 years agoPost 12
rchelichop

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ve got more airtime than many of these guys have lifetimes and I have yet to see the situations (primarily other sites as this one has, in the past, been quite rational) they are passing off as routine; confirmed; and statistically accurate. Which they are not !
funny, you have the same mentality you're just on the other side of the fence. There are those who see or hear of a few problems and mark the entire brand, then there are those who hear but don't actually see a problem, so for them there is no problem! Quite rational.

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04-23-2011 02:20 AM  7 years agoPost 13
onewasp

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rchelichop

Ahhhh, but first you must determine the intent of my post.
You are simply the first to bite.

The others ??? Simply zero thought to date.

Keep at it, you may yet get to the heart of the matter.

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04-23-2011 02:42 AM  7 years agoPost 14
Santiago P

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Dongler,

I feel your pain, but I tell you, wish you at least gone thru the route of getting the problem fixed, and then if you were not satisfied, post your mind.

Trashing out the Mfg than can, or has to help you, is never a good prerogative. Hope you get the TX fixed.

On behalf of some old vehement posters:
I, like a few other old die hard’s that started flying when fly by wire meant two steel braided wires tied to a plastic handle, out survived, brands, companies, fads, early proportional radios, mechanical gyros, all sort of modulations, and too many other craziness RC has offered in my last 37yrs, and owned as many radios as some had their underwear changed, MAY KNOW a thing or two when we speak about quality, technical advantage, and reliability in a product.

To the poster(s) that believe, or may think that they have absorbed absolute knowledge in faster time that our congress can vanish our taxable income, take a pause and listen…

Listen carefully…

You hear that sound….

Is your own arrogance coming from behind, about to run you over and put you face down on the ground.

Stay thirsty my friends

Santiago

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04-24-2011 03:55 PM  7 years agoPost 15
JasonJ

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I can't say that the Dx-8 is a pile or not. I can say that it seems like it has had a tough teething run for sure. I have only ever owned a DX-7 and my current 9303, both based on JR radios. If a person is to go purely by what they have read on the interweb, it seems that the JR based radios have had far fewer issues than the radios Spectrum themselves have produced. As much as I hate to say it, that is enough for me to not buy a Spectrum produced radio, ever.

As far as decades of experience compared to a short time, it depends. I feel, and don't get all fussy, but I feel that it is equally arrogant to assume that decades of experience trumps a few years experience. It may be true on some levels such as the experience of doing something (flying skills), but comparing old Kraft radio experience to DX-8 experience is apples and oranges.

A person may have decades in this hobby, but that is decades of using ever evolving products over time. As the old products fall out of use, that experience also falls out of use unless someone happens to bring an old Kraft radio to the field. None of it is helpful to the kid that shows up with a DX-8 and needs help with it. Unless it is helpful to the current situation, decades of experience is actually decades of fond memories and good story telling. Decades of actual flying and teaching that skill of flying is useful and needed though, and that should always be respected.

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04-24-2011 04:34 PM  7 years agoPost 16
TMoore

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A person may have decades in this hobby, but that is decades of using ever evolving products over time. As the old products fall out of use, that experience also falls out of use unless someone happens to bring an old Kraft radio to the field. None of it is helpful to the kid that shows up with a DX-8 and needs help with it. Unless it is helpful to the current situation, decades of experience is actually decades of fond memories and good story telling. Decades of actual flying and teaching that skill of flying is useful and needed though, and that should always be respected.
Really? You might want to rethink this comment. It is exactly these so called decades of experience that has culminated in the radio tech that you enjoy right now. It is exactly those decades of experience that let's me learn new radios and accessories in minutes not hours or days. Just because I have gray hair and an AARP card doesn't mean that I got stupid just because so called new technology hit the marketplace. Do you honestly think that a new radio necessarily represents a lot of new thinking in how it works as it relates to older radios? Trust me when I say that the computer radios from the late 80's are almost as advanced as the ones today in terms of programming and in some cases haven't been eclipsed yet. There isn't a lot new with the exception of the current modulation schemes and telemetry. Futaba radio tech from the early 90's can be found in their latest iterations and JR tech too can be found in their latest iterations, same thing with Airtronics.

Touch screens? We had those in the late 80's.
Multi point pitch and throttle curves? Had them in the late 80's.
Multiple flight modes? Late 80's.
Multiple gyro gains? Late 80's too.
Programmable switches? Late 80's.
Mode Switching for Modes 1-4? Late 80's.
Digital trims? Late 80's.

In fact from a programming standpoint, there isn't a lot that is new and the DX 8 breaks little new ground.

The OP asks a valid question and Santiagos comments are relevant if folks buy a DX8 and it crashes machines or otherwise fails on them in the field, they should ask for and get it replaced. That is what I would do if I purchased it new and I wasn't happy with the performance and the warranty service I received. A DX8 is not a JR radio in the least. I have a great respect for JR and their products.

With regard to the DX8 pull the plugs on the stick pots and reinsert them. That's the current repair mode for this radio when the stick centers go all over the place.

TM

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04-24-2011 06:05 PM  7 years agoPost 17
JasonJ

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Really? You might want to rethink this comment. It is exactly these so called decades of experience that has culminated in the radio tech that you enjoy right now. It is exactly those decades of experience that let's me learn new radios and accessories in minutes not hours or days. Just because I have gray hair and an AARP card doesn't mean that I got stupid just because so called new technology hit the marketplace. Do you honestly think that a new radio necessarily represents a lot of new thinking in how it works as it relates to older radios? Trust me when I say that the computer radios from the late 80's are almost as advanced as the ones today in terms of programming and in some cases haven't been eclipsed yet. There isn't a lot new with the exception of the current modulation schemes and telemetry. Futaba radio tech from the early 90's can be found in their latest iterations and JR tech too can be found in their latest iterations, same thing with Airtronics.
What you are saying is true and I acknowledge that but you are citing a narrow part of the hobby. I am speaking of the entire hobby. My point is aimed more towards blanket statements. There are things I have tons of experience in from quit awhile ago that have little relevance today. It might help to speed things along when using new versions but I am humble enough to know that there is still a learning curve and sometimes that curve is steep. I simply do not stand for the "I'm older so I know more" mindset. I am 42 and I am sure there are 25 year olds that know more than me in some areas and I have met more than my share of older folks that walk with the air of arrogance but have an incomprehensible level of ignorance. All I am saying is there is arrogance on both sides. None of us know it all, despite how many years we think we knew it all.

Sorry for sidetracking the OP's thread.

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04-24-2011 07:59 PM  7 years agoPost 18
TMoore

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I'll buy that. I don't care for blanket statements either and older isn't always wiser. I didn't take Santiagos comments as older is better. Experience counts if it didn't we wouldn't care how old we were, age would be irrelevant but it's not. Experience and age collide and cross at about the same time that physical skills start to wane. Back to the topic of the radio, like Santiago said and I happen to agree with his opinion, the radio was released too soon without enough testing.

As a tester who's been doing this a long time, I can see the signs.

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04-24-2011 11:15 PM  7 years agoPost 19
dirk_dongler

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Been to LHS and even though the radio is only a couple of months old,was told to send it away.

Excellent customer service not

Even if it gets repaired I don't think I would have any confidence in the radio.....especially as I take my granddaughter flying with me....if anything happened to her I wouldn't ever forgive myself.

To oneasshole....sorry wasp.....I was there with the radio in my hands and saw the inputs for no reason....I don't think I can screw up a steel ball as you so quaintly put it....and you think you have more airtime than I have years.....seeing as you don't know me I would suggest that makes you a mature imbecile that shoots his mouth off without knowing the facts (as with the radio situation)

Anyway....please don't get back on posting that my poo smells or anything derogatory because I really can't be bothered with you or your inane comments

I will send the radio back and report in with the results

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04-25-2011 12:11 AM  7 years agoPost 20
Ghia

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It cant be so bad, if Im ever a spektrum user, Id be PROUD to buy into their R&d dept as a product tester. Whats their benefit package like?

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