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04-21-2011 10:21 PM  7 years agoPost 61
CalmAir

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Camarillo, Ca.

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A surcharge is only a surcharge when you deem it as so...Instead of saying I want to sell this item for $250.00 and add a shipping cost of $25.00
Think instead of a Net price. All inclusive. Heli, parts, time involved, expenses incurred, etc, etc.

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04-21-2011 10:24 PM  7 years agoPost 62
Jeff polisena

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It's not hard if people mind their business if I want something someone has and we come to agreement then it is what it is ! Try to buy a car on craigs list, now there is some rules not followed .

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

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04-21-2011 10:29 PM  7 years agoPost 63
McKrackin

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Lucasville,Ohio

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Crybabies like that Tadawson kill me.
What are we talking about anyway?$ 3?

He wants you to discount him $3 or he will run and tell on you.
I bet he saw his share of wedgies in school.lol....

Unsubscribed.
I'll take my probable Pink and go now.
What a waste.lol....

I literally never use the word literally right.

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04-21-2011 11:52 PM  7 years agoPost 64
reddragon

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Brooklyn, N.Y.

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Abrasive to the extreme.

Wayne - Fly it like you stole it! You're in good hands with Runryder!

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04-22-2011 12:08 AM  7 years agoPost 65
GyroFreak

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Orlando Florida ...28N 81W

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The last time I was on Ebay I was shocked by how some items were posted as BuyNow with very, very low price, but then look at handling and shipping fees, Wow. I bet some people really get suckered into buying something for $2 then get wacked with $40 handling and shipping fee.
Look at both when buying.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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04-22-2011 12:56 AM  7 years agoPost 66
Fred Stone

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UK

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Seems many on here expect life to be free. Don't be a cheapskate, pay your just dues and help others earn along lifes journey.

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04-22-2011 01:07 AM  7 years agoPost 67
JasonJ

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North Idaho

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Define realistic.

If I want to charge $200 for shipping,I can.
If the buyer doesn't want to pay it,MOVE ON.

At $4.00 a gallon for gas,it costs me $25-$30 to drive to a UPS store.
So the price of postage is not all there is to it.
There are several considerations.
I spent $20 on packing material the last time I shipped a whole heli.

Large stores get breaks on shipping.
We individuals pay premium.

Another reason I don't sell here anymore.
I go straight to ebay.
No low ballers and way fewer stupid requests.

People want you to give it away here and pay to get it to them.
This is my point. Who on earth makes a dedicated trip to ship something? I don't. I do it on the way to or from work just like everything else I do in life. Spending $20 on shipping supplies? Why? I have stuff laying around to ship just about anything from my house. Most people do. I can't remember a single time I have had to actually buy supplies to ship something and I have shipped a lot of different things ranging from small items to outboard boat motors.

My point is, why should a person pay for someones lack of efficiency when it comes to shipping? That's fine though, and it is absolutely correct that if a person doesn't like your shipping prices they can move on, but that is a poor selling tactic. If you think it is going to cost $30 to ship an item and you want $1000 for something, just charge $1015 and ask $15 for shipping. It's not rocket science we are talking here, it's about getting someone to buy what you are selling.

Being a rude snot and saying you'll take your ball and go home is not the way to sell anything. I have sold a lot of things in my life. cars, boats, you name it and I have always followed the same simple rule: Charge higher than what you want and let them talk you down to what you actually want. Most of the time you end up with more than you were thinking of asking. But hey, if you want to charge some blatantly outrageous shipping price instead of massaging your item price, don't complain when no one buys what you are selling...

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04-22-2011 02:42 AM  7 years agoPost 68
jgunpilot

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Pollock, LA

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JasonJ makes a lot of sense. If it vexes you to ship something, go with local pickup only.

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04-22-2011 01:08 PM  7 years agoPost 69
Zaaaguy72

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MN

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Dont make Mckrackin mad Jason!! By the way, Futaba glows and Spektrum blows!!

Team Sanjel!

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04-22-2011 05:50 PM  7 years agoPost 70
McKrackin

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Lucasville,Ohio

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Who on earth makes a dedicated trip to ship something? I don't. I do it on the way to or from work just like everything else I do in life. Spending $20 on shipping supplies? Why? I have stuff laying around to ship just about anything from my house
Where do I work?
How many shipping places do I pass?

You don't know do you....

I don't pass any places to ship.
I live waaay out in the country.
It's a 20 mile drive for anything I do or want.

I also don't have a bunch of crap laying around my house.
You need to clean your home.
You have boxes laying around to ship a Trex 600 assembled?

I'm not an efficient shipper.
Hey wait,I'm not a shipper PERIOD.
Just someone who has sold something I didn't need.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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04-22-2011 09:39 PM  7 years agoPost 71
fast400

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its been said that paypal will close any account asking the buyer to pay the fees or the seller stating pay as gift.
all you have to do is take a screen shot of the forsale ad and e-mail it to paypal.

crash`s come easy patience`s doesnt

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04-22-2011 10:33 PM  7 years agoPost 72
rcmiket

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El Paso,Texas

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I find that hard to believe it's done everyday here. It's the buyers choice as far as accepting the gift option or paying the fees. No ones forcing anyone to buy anything. If you don't like the terms just move along to the next seller. Pretty simple
Mike

"When Inverted down is up and up is expensive"

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04-22-2011 10:55 PM  7 years agoPost 73
McKrackin

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Lucasville,Ohio

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all you have to do is take a screen shot of the forsale ad and e-mail it to paypal.
Why would you even want to do that?
Such babies

I literally never use the word literally right.

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04-23-2011 02:42 AM  7 years agoPost 74
fast400

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shelby twp. michigan

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[quote]I find that hard to believe it's done everyday here.[quote/]

i honestly can care less about how people conduct their bussiness, BUT.

paypal sees getting payment as a gift for services or goods as FRAUD.
payapl sees asking a buyer to pay YOUR fees as FRAUD.
paypal has and will file FRAUD charges on this, all it takes is for someone to complain and show proof to paypal that someone is being paid as a gift or asking the buyer to pay YOUR fees.

you are screwing paypal out of their fees for a service rendered that YOU agreed to pay when you signed up with paypal, these are not my policies.
im only passing on factual information, its up to you if you want to flirt with federal prison.

i dont buy from dishonest people, and people who ask others to pay their fees are dishonest and thieves.
why would you buy from a forsale ad that has a seller asking for payment as a gift or you cover their fees? that tells me im dealing with a scumbag thief, and most likely will get a bad deal. so of course i do move on to the next ad.

crash`s come easy patience`s doesnt

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04-23-2011 03:28 AM  7 years agoPost 75
McKrackin

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Lucasville,Ohio

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How is Paypal getting screwed if the buyer pays the fees?
They get paid.That's all that counts.

I never "say" buyer pays fees but I do include it in the price.

It shouldn't cost the seller anything to sell.
It's the buyer that wants something the seller has.
It's the buyer that needs to be spending money.

Federal prison.Don't make me laugh.
As Paypal will tell you when you have a problem...THEY ARE NOT A BANK!!!!

No money is in the mail.
Your money is not insured by FDIC.
Your money is not insured PERIOD.
They use a third party clearing house to move funds.

There are no federal laws involved.
Policy violations maybe but no laws.
Paypal is a pretty good scam dreamed up by a dot commer.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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04-23-2011 04:50 AM  7 years agoPost 76
fast400

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shelby twp. michigan

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mckrackin,

i believe when money is sent as a wire transfer and it being interstate, this will fall under federal jurisdiction.
the money being sent through paypal was withdrawn from a credit card or bank account, this makes it federal.
if its a pre-paid card, then you are on your own.
you can play however you want, but you may want to read paypal terms and policies.

again, i dont care how you conduct yourself.

crash`s come easy patience`s doesnt

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04-23-2011 06:28 AM  7 years agoPost 77
McKrackin

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Lucasville,Ohio

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Completely wrong.Sorry.

The internet is a different world with very few laws to govern it.

Why do you think there is no taxes on internet transactions?

I literally never use the word literally right.

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04-23-2011 07:33 AM  7 years agoPost 78
aceisback

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Terre Haute, IN

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Completely wrong.Sorry
Online transaction do fall under mail fraud. Claims may start at a state level, but still can fall under federal jurisdiction when necessary. It is just to costly to pursue small dollar ripoffs.

I filed a mail fraud claim for an eBay purchase made from Pennsylvania, and I got the problem fixed real fast (less than 2 weeks) at no cost to me, and it was only a $14 item. Got the item, got to keep the misrepresented item they originally sent me, and all is well. The real kicker is that the business location provided by the seller was a vacant lot, but the state tracked the seller down real quick.
Why do you think there is no taxes on internet transactions?
Because they have not figured out how to do it consistently yet. Our government is working on it. Some states require you to keep track of your purchases and include the appropriate sales tax on your state tax form.

Some online vendors DO collect tax depending on the state they are located in.

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04-23-2011 12:28 PM  7 years agoPost 79
rcmiket

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El Paso,Texas

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"that tells me im dealing with a scumbag thief, and most likely will get a bad deal."

Wow you can tell that just from wanting to have the fees covered or PP as a gift? You have a unusual gift there. Normally I need my Magic 8 ball to tell me that. Normally things listed here a way below market anyway and some sellers like myself list my "excess" stuff at a decent price to try and help those who might be able to use things that I don't need. I don't sell here for the money. By the way it does take a certain amount of time and money to package and send items out. If you feel that strongly about us "scumbag thieves" why shop here for stuff go to a web dealer there are plenty to choose from. Better yet go to your LHS and pay full retail and tax. I find your blanket comment offensive and uncalled for.
Mike

"When Inverted down is up and up is expensive"

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04-23-2011 03:44 PM  7 years agoPost 80
fast400

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shelby twp. michigan

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mike,
if you find my statement as a personal attack, then maybe you need to rethink who you are as a person.
i have a clean conscience, do you?
if you are trying to deceive paypal, how do i know your not trying to deceive me?
the train of thought to deceive is in my book immoral and is not the kind of people i would want to be around.
this goes for the guy at the grocery store that eats a grape or anything else he doesnt tend to pay for, a thief is a thief no matter how small it is.
either way, it wasnt directed towards you personally.
i belong to 6 different forums, and runryder is the talk on every forum when it comes to getting screwed after a purchase using the gift option.
90% of all bad deals are on runryder, its not my fault.
i can honestly say i have read my share of people getting ripped off on runryder.

i have made a limited amount of buying and selling here, so far iv`e had no issues.

crash`s come easy patience`s doesnt

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