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04-20-2011 03:29 PM  7 years agoPost 1
T-heli

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I'm trying to establish if it is nice to go flybarless mainblades anyway
even though i've read people saying it does not really make a difference ??

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04-20-2011 03:37 PM  7 years agoPost 2
S.Dykes

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It makes a difference for me. Not a difference that i like either. To me they take away the poppy feeling i like and replaces it with a mushy feeling i dont like. I took the fbl blades off after trying them once.

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04-20-2011 06:32 PM  7 years agoPost 3
bigwolf1

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fly your favorite blades first then try one of your buddies FBL's and see if you like the fell.

I have buddy he fly's the Edge FBL blades but he really liked the feel of mine with beastx and Mah G3 710's .. which are FB blades.. I flew the FBL G5 pro I didn't really like the 690's..

everybody's feel prefference is different.

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04-20-2011 06:48 PM  7 years agoPost 4
BarracudaHockey

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They are heavier and CG'd differently. Only way to tell if they are a good match to your flying style is to try a set.

I prefer Edge

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04-20-2011 07:10 PM  7 years agoPost 5
elmobad

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I have a Beast FBL 700LE and (newly coverted) Aurora both on EDGE 713 FBL blades I do have a set of EDGE 713 FB blades. After reding this I going to give the FB set a try? I hope dont like the 713 FB blades.
I have another set of 713 FBL coming in the mail.

GOT FBL?

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04-22-2011 06:38 AM  7 years agoPost 6
GetToDaChopper

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Here's the biggest diffence between FB & FBL blades, both CY Radix blades for 450 size heli's

the weight along the blade cord wise is farther forwards with the FBL set. you can see that in how the FBL blades hang straight down vs the FB ver.

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04-22-2011 07:18 AM  7 years agoPost 7
helicraze

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I tried them, there is a difference i did not like them.

Makes the heli slow off the mark on cyclic, you can compensate but then you loose some stability.

Put normal radix back on, the do everything well and even FFF no pitching

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04-22-2011 11:34 AM  7 years agoPost 8
GetToDaChopper

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anybody else try both and what did you think ?

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04-22-2011 11:38 AM  7 years agoPost 9
swat310

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Im a big fan of the fbls edge blades on my heli. It feel more locked in for me. The reason for the fbls blades is the make it more stable Fbls helicopters are not stable in the air and make the gyros work harder if you put fbls blades on the cg is in the tips of the blades to make it more stable. I found I can turn my gains up more with the fbls. Try them both. Your going to crash so buy some fbls blades see how you like them. Then when you crash again ask your self witch ones you liked more and go with them.

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04-22-2011 11:41 AM  7 years agoPost 10
Rototerrier

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I am currently running a set of both and can't tell any difference what so ever. Maybe the FBL unit is compensating for any differences. They feel exactly the same to me in the air. I am flying gassers though. With something lighter it might make a much bigger difference. I will certainly never buy another set of FBL's.

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04-22-2011 01:44 PM  7 years agoPost 11
Eco8gator

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Here is some perspective.

The difference in weight between V Blades(V2, smooth surface, 133g) and edge fbl(136g) blades is is 3g.

The weight on the V Blades is actually a tad farther than the Edge

The V's are a bit shorter than the Edge blades too.

The main difference...blade stiffness...the V's win hands down and give huge pop....too bad they are no longer made. Highest quality blades hands down.

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04-22-2011 03:16 PM  7 years agoPost 12
ChrisK7

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I'm running Mavrikk 600 fb blades on my Aeolus 50 with the Beast X and loving it. I haven't tried fbl blades on that heli yet though.
I haven't noticed any bad tendencies yet.

I'm also running the stock Align 520's on my 550 with the Beast X with great results.

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04-22-2011 04:36 PM  7 years agoPost 13
nitroburner

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On my 700n with the Beastx i started out ranning a set of 690D FB baldes because that's what i had on hand. My flying buddy was using a set of FBL blades at the time on his 700 and asked me to give them a try on my 700 and i really didn't like the feel of the FBL blades thay to me like a build in expo feeling to them. So i remain using FB blades.

OMG how much did i spend................

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04-22-2011 06:15 PM  7 years agoPost 14
bigwolf1

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I'm running the MAh 710's G3 wide cord FB blades with the beastx . with the extra weight lose from losing the BAR!! they work well for the price. I think you can get them for around $60 directly from http://www.Mahblades.com he's got a new page up for blades now.

If your a pincher and you like it fast with good pop and release give'em a try..my buddy fly's thumbs and he like's em.

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04-22-2011 10:22 PM  7 years agoPost 15
Eco8gator

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Just rang my v blades out today...

I get a similar climb rate as my edge blades but at a lower rpm

The bite very well at the lower rpm too so I still have all the control authority I did before but at the lower hs. My flight time is a tad higher too.

I wish v was still around.

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04-22-2011 11:32 PM  7 years agoPost 16
GetToDaChopper

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what happen to them as it sounds like they made great blades ?

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04-23-2011 01:03 AM  7 years agoPost 17
Eco8gator

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Asia

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04-24-2011 09:53 AM  7 years agoPost 18
devious17

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Asia,no more. Plan aborted.

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04-24-2011 02:26 PM  7 years agoPost 19
Eco8gator

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No not their MFG...

Asia can simply make a blade(s) that distributors here in the US can profit from more easily and in higher quantities to satisfy the demand.

Now I pay about 70ish-80ish for a set of carbon blades. I believe V's cost a tad more but Id be willing to pay that for them especially considering the blade the V2 blades fly awesome on a FBL machine. You can tell by looking at it and feeling it that its an extremely high quality piece of hardware...

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05-10-2011 09:41 AM  7 years agoPost 20
T-heli

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So it sounds to me flybarless blades is more of a krutch ? like chicken sticks when you start to learn to fly ?

This is difficult i can't seem to find the answer i'm looking for.
Spending 100$ on an extra set of blades just to try them out is not worth it however, i will gladly do so if it is the better blades to get for my beastx.

i currently have the standard align 600 blades on mine, they are pretty light compared to radix. don't know if that is a good thing on fbl systems.

My flying style is scale like, then also stall turns, circuits and fast forward flight.

What should i do ?

I guess let me ask like this, flybarless blades must be made for a reason right ? unless it's for marketing purposes only then the only people that get's fooled is us.

So, let's assume it's not marketing hype, they had to make those blades so that it works better with flybarless sytems. My question then. DOES IT work better with flybarless systems ?

I need to get a conclusion and valid reason why these blades were made, so i can decide which blades to get for my other helicopter as well.

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