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04-20-2011 01:33 PM  7 years agoPost 21
OH-6 Cayuse

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Ok I'll see what happens, with the flapperons I had to use differential to keep the down motion of the ailerons from binding up as it would travel too far and hit the aileron max travel. Im sure I'll run into the problem with the spoilerons but this time in the up travel of the ailerons. Does anyone know how to set endpoints on a dx7? And does setting mess with the over all travel of the servo or it just sets where it should stop? I hope I'm clear in this question..

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04-20-2011 01:56 PM  7 years agoPost 22
koppter

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adjusting the endpoints on the dx 7 is simply a matter of setting the travel adjustment. the defaults are a 100%, but the max throw is at 150%.

nothing wrong with adding weight - just put it on the CG. pattern and glider guys rountinely add weight to their planes depending on conditions.

trainers don't tip stall - the whole wing stalls, which on a trainer, isn't easy to do. and when it does, the stall is gentle, straight forward and easy to recover. spoilerons are probably not a good idea - with the ailerons angled high enough to create drag, they will also act as an airbrake and could result in what is called adverse yaw. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_yaw)

probably a good idea to stay away from the extra until you gain more understanding of aerodynamics - a lot of aerobatic airplanes get turned into confetti because the pilots get into something they can't get out of because they have no idea what is happening - like inadvertantly entering a spin and hoping they can recover using up elevator.

a good second airplane would be a low wing something that still has a chocolate bar wing - capable of mild aerobatics, but still forgiving.

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04-20-2011 08:45 PM  7 years agoPost 23
OH-6 Cayuse

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second flight video
ok so i went out and flew the plane again today and just like the first time the wind started pushing it away and wouldn't give me a brake. I also had a hard time slowing it down like last time, but i was a lot less nervous this time and actually enjoyed doing fly byes as i get more confortable with the way it handles ill do lower ones although they were pretty low it just doesnt seem like it on the video... all in all it was a great flight and if learning in the wind is what's going to have to be done then i'm going to keep at it!!

Watch at YouTube

koppter thanks a lot for the info!! i did some quick reading on adverse yaw and i was wondering if this can be countered with aileron differential? Do you know where I could read up and learn more about aerodynamics??

I hope you guys like the vid sorry for the low quality at the beggining and i'm probably going to get some criticism about something that i'm not going to point out

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04-20-2011 09:47 PM  7 years agoPost 24
GREYEAGLE

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Well Done !
I watched your full Vid: I can give one you big giant step early on.

I help many that start with the same bad habit / it's time to catch it early on.

On every approach you cut the left corner on the finial.

Get in to the habit of making your finial turn {after} you see it off your left shoulder, it will line you up parallel with your flight line every time. Hence you don't come across the field on the diagonal /or crossing the flight line.

Once you make the finial corner / pull the power out and watch for the nose to drop and the plane settle. You can then crawl in and stop at your feet.

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04-21-2011 01:21 AM  7 years agoPost 25
daggit

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hey daggit i looked up your plane seems pretty cool can you fly 3d with it now? i want to get a lil parkflyer extra 300 the guy at my hobby shopt has one and it's awesome. Hopefully ill find a good deal on one soon...
This plane has a great power-to-weight ratio and quick response so when I screw up I have time to recover. I AM able to do some 3d stuff, loops, rolls some half-ass hovering... I can fool the untrained eye.

The problem of course is precision. knife-edge is a surprisingly difficult maneuver, and forget about something like a rolling circle (for now). I just want to fly the heck out of planes to get better at it.

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04-21-2011 01:22 AM  7 years agoPost 26
OH-6 Cayuse

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GREYEAGLE i didn't quite understand what you meant would you please clarify and also thanks for the advice, the reason i landed diagonally was in purpose because that's how i get the most landing strip if the trees were not there i could land it perpendicular to me but i get a lot more room to play with if i come down through that corner to my left (i don't know if you can tell from the vid).

I was really having trouble slowing down though, when i have landed on the sim it seems easy to just pull the nose up a lil and flare it to make it slow down. Real life if i pulled up just a little it would gain altitude. do you have any tips for slowing down? if you notice from the video i don't have much room for a nice decent as i could hit the threes so what i do is just go past the trees make my turn, dead stick and try to sink in after passing the trees.

I was thinking about landing it from the corner to my right because i get a lot more room to do a nice decend but the wind always comes from that direction and pushes me all over! any tips?

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04-21-2011 04:20 AM  7 years agoPost 27
GREYEAGLE

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It's different because
You haven't been around a lot of planks'. You need to make every approach just like full size instead of cheating the corner's. Slowing down is a piece of cake but you'll need to prove it to yourself just for self confidence.

I'll try to break it down for you - just try it and report back - please.

ALway's never break the golden rule. ALL takeoff's and landing's into the wind.

On landing set up's - start early pulling the power back a bit on your finial down wind leg. Plane should be parallel to your flight line heading down wind. You should be facing w/ body pointing to the opposite side of the field.

Pull your first left hand corner / with power down -but not out / then -- FLY 90 degree's across the end of the field ---- { Until you see it off your left shoulder} and line up( OFF ) your left shoulder. Then make your second turn coming towards you so it is coming into the wind. It will be lined up parallel with your strip.

If the left shoulder thing weird' you out a bit it's ok to just keep your feet planted and point the transmitter over their. It's kinda like trying to compensate for a golfer that slice's like crazy

Keep the power out of it and watch and wait till you see the nose drop and settle into a glide. It will but you need to READ IT - LOOK for the nose to SETTLE . To hold it up - and keep the speed down " Just Nurse " the elevator - it will come to you like a herd
of turtles - just wait for it !!!! You will be amazed on how slow it will fly !

Prove it to your self with some slow crawling dumbo flyby's.

Once you see it - the first thing your gona do is toss that nose gear steering in the trunk !

PS. Time to start practicing RIght hand or clockwise

greyeagle

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04-21-2011 07:18 AM  7 years agoPost 28
OH-6 Cayuse

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Haha that's so awesome!! I have noticed how it just falls into the glide once you go dead stick. It's like it's flying forward and whenever you kill the throttle it seems that you're pulling the nose with a string because It just looks down and slides down looks real beautiful when it does that by the way!! Ill definitively try that next time I go fly it, now you got me hooked!!! I'll be thinking about pulling easily on the elevator and watch it slow down!!! I m running the senario in my head and it makes since now!!!

You know I noticed that I try to fly it like a heli and use rudder a lot, I've also been told that with planes you don't use rudder as much to turn but I think I've been flying it the way you fly a heli!

What do you mean right hand clock wise?? Sry I need to learn what all this means!! Thanks tons for the help this really cleared everything up!! Plus the fact that I did notice this while flying the plane just gives me a huge boost of Not just encouragement but confidence too!!

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04-21-2011 09:45 PM  7 years agoPost 29
GREYEAGLE

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Wish
I had you in my territory / I love - Verily - RUnning the new guy's - through what I call the Verbal School of Brown Stripe Intimidation.

I usually I apologize in advance : Tell them I'm gona YELL in your ear and you still won't hear a thing - but please don't think I'm being cruel

Best part is I just keep pulling out more large caliber powder stuff for them to fly " I have just a small fleet of expendables" -then their worse than crack addict's or having a pocket full of Viagra.

After they think they got it all dialed up with good smoke : We give em a snake bit X plane - Then I go wet myself laughing !!!! and somebody usually helps w // the cramp's. Some time's my eye's are watering so hard I get the challenge myself on getting them down on the target.

Right turn's - Pick up a rock, put it in your right pocket,--- that's right ! Turn towards the rock - clockwise You ain't gona like it.

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04-22-2011 02:59 AM  7 years agoPost 30
OH-6 Cayuse

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lol ill give it a try i'm comfortable to turn either direction when the plane is off to my left but when it's to my right i kind of have to think a little more about it... what about a loop? I was so tempted to just pull the stick and let see what happens lol also wanted to try rolls...

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04-22-2011 07:16 AM  7 years agoPost 31
spaceman spiff

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fun stuff. You are ready for a loop. if you have a rubber banded wing be sure to have enough bands to hold the wing down (probably 8 bands) sucks if the wing lifts off the saddle, can make for some exciting last seconds of a toys life. Other wise it is easier than you probably imagine.

if the wind is strong, you are more or less stuck with landing into the wind.

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04-22-2011 07:57 AM  7 years agoPost 32
GREYEAGLE

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No Sweat :
Loop's are easy ! I alway's force them into at least one --- even on their very 1st test drive ! One of my cruel and unusual form's of punishment !! It's one HUGE confidence builder - even the lil - one's. !

Into the wind : Medium speed ONLY ! Have good air under your belt -- Push your nose down " For { just a bit then a bit longer } Then PULL full & {gently} and Hold / Hold and Hold, HOLD some more !!!

Your 1st one will look Like a figure 9 but you Got it done.

I see very few that can actually do a correct round loop de loop.

I say blow off the loop's and roll's . Go right for the inverted flat spin - then to a full vertical down line blender - into a wall, then Harrier right down to your flight box : Piece of cake - just use plenty of rubber bands.

greyeagle

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04-22-2011 05:33 PM  7 years agoPost 33
spaceman spiff

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Have good air under your belt
Don't fart and fly

Thats what i always say.

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04-23-2011 03:42 AM  7 years agoPost 34
OH-6 Cayuse

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Well fellers I haven't had time to try any Inverted or flat spins or blenders but I think I would also need to have clean undees handy if I tried that right now I'll try and scape from work to try some new moves.

Has anyone Else had any flight time lately? I would like to find a field with less trees but I think if I learn here an open field would be a walk in the park... I was wondering and I don't know if you guys can tell from the vid but on every time I go into a turn I add throttle. Is this a good habit or not?

Also I would appreciate any info on physics what kind of things to avoid while flying and if I do go into a bad situation how to get out. Any kind of senario would be great and highly appreciated.

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04-23-2011 04:26 AM  7 years agoPost 35
GREYEAGLE

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Wish one of my bud's would chime up here : The Corner !!!s
Let's wait a bit

It's a regular mantra thing and I'm not very polite about it .

That's why I say " You ain't gona like the righties "

San Antonio has got to have a whole gaggle or Staffel of Flyer's - If you don't find them - the'll find you

Find the field - Flash your AMA Card and open a box of maple flavored donuts

This is Known as having Good Air under your belt : Right Pete !

OK Here ya go : HOLD YOUR NOSE UP ! -

LEARN to massage the elevator in the corners

greyeagle

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