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04-19-2011 02:02 AM  7 years agoPost 1
2kwik2crrVeteran - Chino Hills, USA - My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Well, I know most of you must be wondering why I created another build thread and yet my other project (Freya EX II Electric) is not even finished yet; the answer to that is simple....I am still waiting for some components such as the voltage regulator. I decided to use a volt reg. in lieu of the BEC setup. I want to use a separate power source for the receiver, servos, gyro and ESC. So bottomline is my EX II is still grounded .

While waiting on that my hands are itching to start with the Eagle 3 SWM build. I want everyone here to know that getting an Eagle 3 SWM kit has been a life, long dream of mine. I've always wanted to get this kit. Once again I'd like to thank MRC specially Mr. Don Boyce for helping me acquire this kit. I've looked high and low for this kit at my local hobby shops and they're very hard to find. The last one I've seen it on sale was a Heliproz.com, but they were all out of stock. MRC has been instrumental in getting this kit to my hands and I really appreacite their accomodation. I'm living proof to Hirobo's company motto: Make your dreams come true!

The first time I've seen one of this kit fly was when I was in one of my flying fields. The owner was nice enough to showcase his kit and when he revealed the airframe it's like opening a treasure box. The magnificence of the engineering design is simply superb and top-notch. The bearings are smooth and free..what do you expect...it's a Koyo bearing!

Anyways without further adieu, here's the kit:

Here's how the box look like:


Talk about proper way of packaging this kit:

Here's the manual:

Carbon Frames Asssembly

Now for the carbon frames. I went ahead and lightly sanded the edges to prep it. The frames doesn't really come with sharp edges. This is just a habit of mine when doing a build.

Upper frames:

Lower frames:

Upper CF Frame assembly

Here's the tail counter gear and E3 bearing mount:

Don't worry; there's nothing wrong with your screen. In this photo I had the upper frame turned upsidedown to see and check the match up of the frame and E3 bearing mount.

Now the frame is right side up and getting ready to be bolted.

In here I'm checking the alignment of the upper frame against a L-ruler.

Here's the upper frame; partially built.


Lower CF Frame assembly

Now for the lower frame:


Though this kit will be electric, I'm using the E3 engine mount as an alignment tool to properly align both lower frames.

The lower crossmembers and E3 floating angle sets and installed. The corssmembers will be a temporarything since I ordered a pair of E3 undermounts.

Now for the marriage of the upper and lower frames. In this photo are the numerous bolts, flat washers, and crossmembers that will be used up to put two items and make it one.

Here's the partially completed main frame:

I went ahead and decided to put on the Funtech lower landing skids.

SWM Lever assembly

Now for the SWM levers. Here's all the components needed the E3 SWM.

Here's the SWM levers for the elevator, pitch, and aileron installed on the airframe.

135 degrees Swash Plate assembly

Here's the swash unit and its components.

All assembled:

Now here's the shocker for me. I was surprise to see that this kit didn't come with the EX High Torque Clutch. The EX Second Gear assembly is present, but the torque clutch is not what I'm expecting. Seeing that this kit is the one of the top-of-the-line models I though that the EX high torque clutch will be there. It's no biggie, it's just....surprising to me.

Next shall be the continuation of the airframe assebmly such as the SWM servo brackets, Gyro mounts, tail boom and brace, head unit assembly, and the electronics installations.

To be really honest I'm not even sure if this frame assebemly will be utilized because I'm expecting the Hirobo EP12 Eagle 4 electric conversion kit (0307-901). I'm might use that new airframe when I get it. We'll see! There's just too many things to think about and decide upon. I guess it's safe to say that I still built this kit the way it is now just so I can get my hands on it since it's so tempting....beware of the Hirobo temptress!! lol

Signing off.....for now!

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04-19-2011 02:27 AM  7 years agoPost 2
fung_jeff

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I know a place to get super cheap EX High-Torque.... PM me if interested Have fun building!!!
Hirobo EP12 Eagle 4 electric conversion kit
Getting quite excited aren't you!

Jeffrey Fung...15 Years old - FLEET: Evo 50, Raptor 30, Trex 500, SDX's, X-Spec, Logo 10/400

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04-19-2011 02:31 AM  7 years agoPost 3
l4rg0

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Another gorgeous bird man. I am starting toy get Eagle envy...

Team A Main Hobbies/ProTek R/C
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04-19-2011 02:38 AM  7 years agoPost 4
balsapro

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You Luck dog you..... your definitely the king of bling

thanks again for the hook up on the xspec frames

Build the Best, Fly the Best, Crash the Best

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04-19-2011 02:46 AM  7 years agoPost 5
2kwik2c

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Hi Jeff,

I'll PM you on the details regarding the EX torque clutch. Yeah I'm getting excited alright!

Hi l4rg0,

Thanks for the compliments.

Hi Adam,

Bling is my middle name. lol No problem bro. Glad you like them and I'm glad that it went to a good home.

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04-19-2011 03:11 AM  7 years agoPost 6
fung_jeff

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Also! I think that's the Auto-rotation case that came with my Freya. It has a metal "ring/covering", but the actual case is just plain plastic...

Jeffrey Fung...15 Years old - FLEET: Evo 50, Raptor 30, Trex 500, SDX's, X-Spec, Logo 10/400

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04-19-2011 03:24 AM  7 years agoPost 7
Mr. Heliguy

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And you're teasing us for the second time!

Good luck on your build

Regards,

Adriel Mesias Simorangkir
INA 0975

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04-19-2011 03:30 AM  7 years agoPost 8
2kwik2c

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Thanks for the greet Mr. Heliguy. My whole intent is not to make everyone feel bad here. I just like to showcase how beautiful Hirobo makes their helis. My other intent is to inspire heli enthusiast. I'm just very passionate when it comes to this hobby specially I'm a brand specific person and my build threads clearly states what brand I go with.

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04-19-2011 03:39 AM  7 years agoPost 9
rudyy

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Nice bird!! Please post pics on the blue metal head.

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04-19-2011 04:12 AM  7 years agoPost 10
2kwik2c

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Hi rudyy,

I will as soon as I can get to it.

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04-19-2011 04:53 AM  7 years agoPost 11
nytflyer

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Hi 2kwik2c, just so you know that you wouldn't be needing those beautiful, fresh out of the box hirobo Re frames. Unfortunately yeah its not required. The ep conversion that you are ordering will have the new frames u need. The remaining items you will need to install onto the new ep frames. I've just completed my ep aocc. Looking for time to test it. have Fun!

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04-19-2011 05:11 AM  7 years agoPost 12
Dr.Ben

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The reason the Hi Torque hub isn't in the kit is because that's a pre-'08 E3 SWM (AKA '06 AOCC).

In an electric application, the included auto hub will work just fine. It's not the load that kills the Torrington hubs; it's the hammer effect of a glow engine that you just won't have with an electric model. In point of fact, the hub included in that kit held up very well even in nitro applications.

Ben Minor

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04-19-2011 11:04 AM  7 years agoPost 13
sks

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and I have the same hub that's been through over 3000 flights to prove it.

maybe I just got lucky.

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04-21-2011 08:20 PM  7 years agoPost 14
payne1967

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mr bling whore
its looking nice
but you do need 1 upgrade for it
the turbulence head

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04-21-2011 11:35 PM  7 years agoPost 15
fung_jeff

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Is the SSR-VII that horrible?

Jeffrey Fung...15 Years old - FLEET: Evo 50, Raptor 30, Trex 500, SDX's, X-Spec, Logo 10/400

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04-21-2011 11:46 PM  7 years agoPost 16
sks

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let's just say that the SSZ-IV is just THAT much better, because it is.

The only thing I like about the SSR-VII is that it LOOKS better than the SSZ-IV.

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04-22-2011 12:06 AM  7 years agoPost 17
Dr.Ben

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Honestly, about the only guy on Earth who could hang onto a bone stock SSZ-VII head in heavy wind in hover was Mr. Hashimoto.

The IV head is markedly better and about 95% as good as the SSZ-V for a more affordable price. Ed has one or the other in his plans as I recall.

Ben Minor

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04-22-2011 01:20 AM  7 years agoPost 18
yapjy

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The SSR7 requires a different handling approach.

SSR stands for Super Sharp Response. You will have to "fly" it through the maneuvers. Once you get used to it's behaviour, it allows you to response very fast to keep the heli flying in a precise manner.

I understand that this will be difficult for people who prefers a "hands off" type of flying.

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04-22-2011 01:29 AM  7 years agoPost 19
Dr.Ben

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There's more to it than that. The SSR-VII's flybar ratio is too high. The model bites into the wind and will not transition into vertical lines if you are the slightest bit abrupt on the pull.

Hirobo evolved the VII head into the VIII and decreased the flyabr ratio by changing the pitch arms. Even though they did that, Hashimoto flies the V head, and that speaks louder than anything in my mind.

If hands off flying means that I want the rotor head to do as much as it can to help me hold the model in the wind without me being forced to micromanage everything, then I will certainly admit to preferring that kind of head set up. The other set up demands the kind of reflexes that typically start to go away by the time you reach your mid 20's. I'm older than that.

Ben Minor

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04-22-2011 03:03 AM  7 years agoPost 20
2kwik2c

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Ben is correct. I'll be using the SSZ-V head assembly for this kit.

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