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04-25-2011 05:43 PM  10 years ago
raptor50luvver

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Here in the Uk and Europe getting 60mpg from a car,petrol or diesel is no problem.

Small 5 seater cars can achieve 70 to 80mpg.

I have a 9 year old Ford Focus Estate and that can do 58mpg on a long run no problem.

Mind you we are paying £6.50 per gallon at the moment($10.70)
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04-25-2011 06:33 PM  10 years ago
MartyH

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The creature comforts and the luxury level we demand is this country is over the top crazy. I don't need 12 airbags. 2 would be just fine. I dont need my rear wiper to come on automatically when I put the car in reverse. For that matter, I dont need a rear wiper. I sure don't need headlights to turn with the turn. I'll be careful. Give me lighter more efficient car. Give me a European Focus Estate!
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04-25-2011 11:22 PM  10 years ago
Ronald Thomas

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Not saying I am a theorist but.......
We can build rockets that go to the moon, we can operate on people with lasers, we can build super computers that can do any calculation BUT we can't make a car do 60mpg???? Come on!!!!
Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!
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04-25-2011 11:31 PM  10 years ago
Mike Fortin

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I'm still wondering why we don't harness the power of the sun?Have Rotors, Will Fly!
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04-26-2011 01:24 AM  10 years ago
jschenck

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What I don't understand is why we don't have diesel electrics. This is well known to be very efficient way to convert diesel into kinetic energy, that's why trains, big ships and big generators use diesel electric.

Diesels are most efficient at a constant load. A Jetta (or even Passat!) driven by an electric motor with a battery pack large enough to run it FAST for 5 minutes with the diesel running under a constant load to charge it would probably do very well if designed and engineered properly.
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04-26-2011 03:28 AM  10 years ago
JasonJ

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The Chevy Volt is pretty much the only actual production car that will use an engine to power a generator to run it's electric motors. Too bad it isn't a small diesel. I would buy a pickup truck that had a tiny diesel running a generator, but it's a tough sell for those who can't think beyond what they know. Doesn't matter that that pickup I describe would out torque any conventional truck. Nope, it has to have an ungodly inefficient engine so they can put crappy loud pipes on so it can sound good only to them.
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04-26-2011 04:38 AM  10 years ago
Spitfire1

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I dont care about the price of fuel I get flown to work and back once every 2 weeks, then I only use my car for pleasure in the week Im home from work, thats the biggest reason Im working 2/1 so I can drive my v8 and enjoy the experience of driveing it.

These ecomomy cars are only for getting from a - b there is no pleasure in driveing them, I would rather pay more money for fuel and enjoy the experience of driveing.

Its not that much anyway, I reckon people make too much about the price of fuel, so you put 50 bucks in a nice v8 or 20 bucks in a little economy POS, an extra $30 you would just spend on nik naks anyway.
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04-26-2011 05:01 AM  10 years ago
JasonJ

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I dont care about the price of fuel I get flown to work and back once every 2 weeks, then I only use my car for pleasure in the week Im home from work, thats the biggest reason Im working 2/1 so I can drive my v8 and enjoy the experience of driveing it.

These ecomomy cars are only for getting from a - b there is no pleasure in driveing them, I would rather pay more money for fuel and enjoy the experience of driveing.

Its not that much anyway, I reckon people make too much about the price of fuel, so you put 50 bucks in a nice v8 or 20 bucks in a little economy POS, an extra $30 you would just spend on nik naks anyway.
True. One thing I can say is after having owned a lot of cars, some much better than others, I realized they all did the same thing: Got me there. It used to be that the car was the utmost important thing, like most young people think. Now that I am older, it's all about it just doing it's job. I knew I had arrived at vehicular maturity when I looked at my 11 mpg truck and realized I had absolutely no use for it (after having sold the boat) and could not imagine continuing to commute 18 miles each way every day driving that thing. That's me though. For others, the car/truck will be important until they die and that is cool for them. For me, it just needs to get me there, be comfortable and efficient and I need to not hate it when I walk up to it in the Wal-Mart parking lot...
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04-26-2011 08:35 AM  10 years ago
shawmcky

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If fuel prices for your personal transport is not an issue,remember the cost of goods transported by road,sea or air might be when fuel costs are passed on.Team- unbiased opinion.K.I.S.S principle upheld here
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