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08-04-2011 06:30 PM  6 years agoPost 221
bjacks

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Mike and Big D do a outstanding job, both are good. Bobby

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08-04-2011 06:43 PM  6 years agoPost 222
synman95

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much agreed

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08-04-2011 06:50 PM  6 years agoPost 223
Steff Giguere

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I think Mike did a great job last year, isn't he up for this year also?

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08-04-2011 07:23 PM  6 years agoPost 224
Mike Fortin

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Hi guys!

I'd love to do it, I really enjoy MC'ing.

More than likely I will probably end up doing the MA Power Hour at the very least but if the IRCHA guys had anything else in mind I'd be open.

Thanks for the comments!

Have Rotors, Will Fly!

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08-04-2011 07:52 PM  6 years agoPost 225
loveraptors

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I also think that both big D and Mike do a great job, I have really enjoyed big D doing the MC for a number of years and I don't think any one is better, so I would love to see him doing it, if indeed he attends Ircha this year.

A couple of years ago they were both at the Southern Rotary Classic, big D did the daytime demos and Mike did the night flying demos.

However Mike did a really good job last year, he cracked me up when he was giving something away to the crowd and the first person that ran up to get it would get the prize. A guy with his shirt off started running up there and he said I ain't giving it to the naked guy.

What might really be cool would be if they could do some type of dueling Mics to hype the show, but if they choose either one I am sure it will be cool.

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08-04-2011 07:58 PM  6 years agoPost 226
Dood

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I don't think any one is better
You obviously haven't heard me.

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08-04-2011 10:05 PM  6 years agoPost 227
ssrobzoom

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Hey Guys,

Looks like the weather is going to be GREAT!!!


http://www.accuweather.com/us/in/mu...ecast-month.asp]

Much better than last year it was miserable!!!!!!!!!!

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08-04-2011 10:50 PM  6 years agoPost 228
Bouchah

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Not to be a pessimist or anything, but I dont trust the weather forcasters any farther out than about an hour or two. I hope the weather is good but I wouldnt put much stock in what they say.

Blade 130x (5)
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08-05-2011 01:44 AM  6 years agoPost 229
kcordell

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Well, been here (AMA site) since Sunday night and the weather has been pretty much spot on according to forecast. Nice evening right now, 83 and nice sunset. Been a nice day.

Team Futaba, Team Synergy/Rail, Team Scorpion, Team Castle Creations, YS Engines, VelTye

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08-05-2011 03:32 PM  6 years agoPost 230
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sharing a ride
I know its late but the person I was driving out with bailed on me because of personal problems. Is anyone else interested in sharing the ride, ( and expenses gas toll, etc)I can supply the wheels if needed and I will not be bring much myself, just don't look forward to the 12 hour drive and associated costs for just me. I leave from Philadelphia area around Wednesday but can meet up with others from other areas who might offer a ride and would like help with there gas and expenses. Just call me Bob Thomson (big bird) 609 670 1173 anytime, if no answer leave message and when best time to call you back. thanks

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08-05-2011 07:36 PM  6 years agoPost 231
elkmaster01

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IRCHA,
Site 3 will also provide large flight stations for pilots that sport fly ( loops and rolls etc ) IRCHA askes that no 3D flight occurs at this station until after 6pm.
This might start some NvE type opinions but,,,,"no 3D flights until after 6:00pm",,,,,,,,,what constitutes "3d"? Someone have a specific list of what moves are 3D and what aren't?

Randy

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08-05-2011 07:46 PM  6 years agoPost 232
Mike Fortin

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The answer is actually in your own post.

3D would be anything other than
(loops and rolls etc)
However this is at Site 3, if your at Site 4 you can "3D" 24 hours of the day if you like.

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08-05-2011 07:48 PM  6 years agoPost 233
Dood

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Loops, rolls, stall turns, FF and backward flight, upright & inverted and even funnels are all part of Sport flying and not considered 3D, and therefor acceptable.

More than a decade ago, Augusto of Avant RC wrote out his definition of "3D". This has been accepted as THE standard definition of what 3D is. You're going to have to read it and apply it yourself.
I came up with my own definition of 3D that I'll submit here for your consideration.

I believe 3D is any maneuver that to be performed requires the constant harmonized input of three or more controls simultaneously while the maneuver is taking place.

Using this I divided the maneuvers in two categories:

1) Quasi-static controls maneuvers:
Under the previous definition a loop, a roll and a 360 pirouette are not 3D. Those maneuvers are performed by simply leaving one control in a single spot to complete the maneuver with slight and precise modifications to compensate or correct for a perfect maneuver. Even if the maneuver requires several inputs such as in a cobra roll you do them one at a time. This doesn't mean at all that non-3D maneuvers are easy to perform. I actually believe that precise non-3D maneuvers require a very high level of sophistication from the pilot.

2) Dynamic controls maneuvers:
I consider maneuvers to be 3D as those where during the whole time while the maneuver is happening two or more controls are being changed constantly to achieve a smooth harmonized effect.

For instance:
1) A piro flip requires constant moving of the elevator and aileron control in a circular stirring and synchronized fashion while at the same time rudder is kept at a constant rate while the pitch is being changed up and down constantly to prevent it from falling. 3 controls changed simultaneously.

2) A rolling circle requires constant traveling through positive pitch with a bit of left rudder then down to the middle of the travel, no rudder and at this point that the heli is in a knife edge position a bit of down elevator then negative pitch and a bit of right rudder and then back to the center on the left stick and again while in knife edge a bit of up elevator. 4 Controls simultaneously being changed

3) A piro loop requires precise control of the pitch so the model won't lose momentum while at the same time you need to rotate the right stick in syncronization with the heli's orientation to the loop plane.

Using these criteria some maneuvers that most people consider 3D such as a funnel wouldn't fall into the 3D category because they comply with the Quasi-static controls maneuver definition. Now if you take a static funnel and you make it into a morphing funnel then it becomes 3D because to perform it you need to constantly be changing three controls simultaneously.

By the same token, fast backwards flying used to require constant input to prevent the tail from weathervaning. Nowadays with the advent of heading-hold gyros this maneuver changed from a 3D maneuver to a non-3D maneuver.

The same way if instead of a 360 pirouette you start pirouette-flying around then you need to start moving the elevator, aileron and pitch to control the location you want to move the helicopter to and this at the same time synchronized with the heli's attitude towards the flight path.

Those are what I consider the difference between 3D and non-3D maneuvers.

Augusto.

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08-05-2011 08:31 PM  6 years agoPost 234
elkmaster01

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loops and rolls etc
Well,,under those definitions,,,tic/tocs are not 3D either.

To me,,,3D is anything over and above what is required to maintain simple basic flight. Take off,,,cruise,,,fly around,,,land---those are required for basic flight. Anything more than that should be 3D,,inverted=3D,,,backwards flying=3D.

'Acrobatics' is a far better descriptive word than 3D.
You're going to have to read it and apply it yourself.
See,,this is why I asked,,,this is totally subjective. Very few people agree on what is what. It's a recipe for confusion.

Randy

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08-05-2011 10:00 PM  6 years agoPost 235
irush

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I would agree with elkmaster, but I have fallen in to the realm of moderate pilot. I can do fine just flying around, but now I am pushing the envelope. I like doing some inverted things and trying a few planned out tricks, but in no way do I mean I can do "3D". I was hoping that there would be an area where I could get goofy, but still not be next to the serious 3D pilots.

stupid gravity......

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08-05-2011 10:02 PM  6 years agoPost 236
fpainter

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Just like pornography -I dont have an exact description, but I just know it when I see it!!!

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08-05-2011 10:13 PM  6 years agoPost 237
Mike Fortin

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3D,,inverted=3D,,,backwards flying=3D.
Not.

Simple inverted flying is a basic maneuver as is backwards flight. Both of these maneuvers would need to be learned as a precursor to 3D flight.

Just because you can put a car into reverse and back out of a tight parking spot doesn't make you a stunt driver.

Have Rotors, Will Fly!

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08-05-2011 10:32 PM  6 years agoPost 238
Dood

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'Acrobatics' is a far better descriptive word than 3D.
Perhaps, if you were trying to describe these guys

Your posting privileges have been revoked until you understand the definition of acrobatics and learn the difference between acrobatics and aerobatics.

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08-05-2011 10:37 PM  6 years agoPost 239
MichiganFlyer

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Dood a female cheerleader team would make a better pic! Your posting priviliges are revoked untill you post a correct pic!

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08-05-2011 10:41 PM  6 years agoPost 240
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Ok. Sorry about the picture of men in tights. Stare at this one for a while, it will ease some of the pain.

(But back on topic.. this is the IRCHA thread)

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