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05-01-2011 12:46 AM  10 years ago
rexxigpilot

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Since you crashed both your 50's, here's some good advice. Don't bother fixing them. Just part them out and use that money and salvageable leftover equipment for your new 90! They do fly that much better. You won't fly the 50's much after you get a 90.
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05-01-2011 01:06 AM  10 years ago
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that would be good advice, but so far off from getting the 90 at the mo i will have nothing to fly if i sell off the 2 50's. got the trex 600le almost ready to fly now so will fix the the elyq 50 comp and the katana slowly to try and save abit more, gonna miss flying my 50 comp fuel it < check it <> fly it > clean it
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05-01-2011 01:26 AM  10 years ago
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Just fly the Phoenix simulator while you're getting a 90 together!
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05-01-2011 12:45 PM  10 years ago
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Phoenix Simulator!

- "If you have to ask the answers NO"! LOL. That might fly with your kids, but not in a Heli forum! We know better!

not sure what you are on about in the above reply (individual 1)?
fuel it < check it <> fly it > clean it
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05-01-2011 01:31 PM  10 years ago
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90 size
I have all the heli sizes and after years of trying everything i have finally settled on a 90n and a 90e. Got rid of the 2 50's and couldnt be any happier. Best thing is now only have to stock one size of blades and all the spare parts on the wall are for just one heli ( the 90e is a nitro conversion) This settup is awesome becouse when my fuel is getting low i just plug n play with the 90e and im still flying a 90 size bird. Yes the investment is more at 1st but if i would have taken all the money i wasted on 50 size stuff i would have easily paid for the 90e. BTW i will never get rid of my 90n, its way too much fun hearing and smelling it.........
Goblin 570 12s w/ beast x, 700e dfc w/v-bar, (2) 550's w/beast on 12s,500 pro ,450 dom
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05-01-2011 01:50 PM  10 years ago
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hi rich
what about the feel of the 2 when flying are they same, as the thing i like about my 2 50s is that they fly diffrent , i know that having 2 90s using same spares is a good thing but i never fancyed the electric path to go down. supose i could go fbl on 1 and fb on the other.
fuel it < check it <> fly it > clean it
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05-01-2011 02:19 PM  10 years ago
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I have a 50, 500E and a 450. I've already heard enough that I'm eyeing an ENV! Not sure if I'll get rid of my 50, but definetely getting a 90. I do believe I'll go Nitro until Lipo technology gets better. Probably few years down the road. You could dump off one of your 50's and just save up over the next 8-12 months. Not like you have to get it NOW. Make it a Christmas gift to yourself!
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05-01-2011 02:35 PM  10 years ago
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yes
the feel between the 2 is very close ( takes a lot of tweeking ) and i find it very nice to fly them back to back and still have it feel like the same heli. Its the way to go (trust me), dont keep wasting money on any other setups. Its cost effective after the initial investment for sure. On them hot muggy days where the 50's just dont have the power, the 90's just blow you away as far as power goes.
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05-01-2011 02:39 PM  10 years ago
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hi indi
i couldnt just go on sim for few months it would fry my head plus if im in the house the mrs will get me to do stuff around the house, i could sell 1 of the 50s tho i have had the trex600le the longest and its the only one back together after the crash. mmm will have a think about that........
crimbo prezy sounds good will give me somthing to do over crimbo.
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05-01-2011 03:58 PM  10 years ago
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I personally love the 700 size(have 5), but I also have 2 600 size.
Normally I would recommend the bigger the better, but the problem is the bigger the more expensive, ie. a lot more in fuel cost, more in crash cost, more up front cost, etc. In your case, it seems you're enjoying the .50's pretty well, and they are definitely cheaper to fly...I'd stay with them. No, up front cost, only crash repair, and several more flights per gallon. Plus if you never spend all that money on a .90, you'll never know what you missed, kinda like what you don't know, ya don't miss...if that makes sense. Just my 2 cents...
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05-01-2011 05:08 PM  10 years ago
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good point with not knowing what im missing if i dont go down the 90 size, but everyone including yourself says how good the 90 size heli's are and isnt a 90 the next step (last step)! i have 30s now 50s think i will have to get a 90 size even if its just to say yes i had a 90 and loved it or wasnt to keen on it,
what you think before you had your 700's did you realy want to get 1 ?
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05-01-2011 05:37 PM  10 years ago
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The problem with the 90's is that after you fly them you won't find the 50N's much fun anymore. It's all about the added power, presence in the air and hang time on autos you get from the 90's. Since I started with RC helis, I went through a progression from micro helis, to 450's, to 600E, to 50N, to 90N and back to 600E. The 90N's were eating me alive in fuel cost. I fly alot and all year long where I live. So, the 90N's just got too expensive. It was like having an extra car payment every month.

My first experience with the 600E's was not good (TRex600E). It was underpowered. Also, the batteries at the time were outrageously expensive and didn't last long. All that has changed. I find my 600E (Logo600) can give me much of the trill that a 90N can give. Batteries are now much better and cheaper. My 12S Logo600 has the power of a 90N. Flight time is 7+ minutes with 4Ah packs. With 623mm or 630mm blades, it has good presence too. Next up for me is a 700+ class electric heli. It will have everything I like about the 90N and then some. Do yourself a favor and don't overlook the electric option.
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05-01-2011 06:08 PM  10 years ago
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hi rex
i never been to keen on the electric powered option as when i started in the hobby only 3 years ago boys in our club had trex 450 and stuff and thay was getting about 4mins or so a flight and that put me off going electric. i only go flying on the weekends if im not working so when im there i like to get a few hours there, 6 flights or more in one day so if i went electric i would need atleast 6 batteries and not anywhere at our field to charge them. if there was lipo's that lasted the same as 2 tanks of fuel i would consider electric bat at the mo its smelly noisey nitro for me mmmmmmm
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05-01-2011 06:29 PM  10 years ago
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and isnt a 90 the next step (last step)!
No, the 120 is after the 90 I think the quest for more power and size will be ongoing, because the more power to weight a heli has, the more extreme a pilot can become with it. And the larger the heli, the more presence it has in the air. I'm not sure I could really explain that, as we all have to experience it. You can watch a good pilot with a 600 and then watch the same pilot with a 700 doing the same flying and get some feel for it, but personal experience is the best way. But like I said before it's much more expensive and what you don't have you don't miss.

For myself though, I'm in the process of gathering the items to build an 800. A 600 is good, a 700 is great, so an 800 ought to be awesome!
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05-01-2011 06:52 PM  10 years ago
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800 wow is that a kit that you can get or are you building it from scratch. what size engine will go in it. i will get a 90 size and if i love it i will just sell kidley to pay for the fuel fuel it < check it <> fly it > clean it
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05-01-2011 07:39 PM  10 years ago
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robbe made an 800 size for a good few years
its called the quatro
800mm blades
90 size engine
its one large heli that often gets a turbine fitted to it
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05-01-2011 07:45 PM  10 years ago
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I want a Furion 6 so bad, because I love the design. Thing is.. It's not a 90. The new Uglylash has the Lipo transport bay that I loath. So.. Not sure what to do. Need to do a quick search on the new Mikado and see what it looks like. Be right back..
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05-01-2011 08:19 PM  10 years ago
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800 wow is that a kit that you can get or are you building it from scratch.
Logo XXtreme!
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05-01-2011 08:21 PM  10 years ago
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what engine will you put in it !!!fuel it < check it <> fly it > clean it
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05-01-2011 09:15 PM  10 years ago
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800 wow is that a kit that you can get or are you building it from scratch.
It will be a kit, the LG XT is one of only two that I know of for sure, but I'm guessing it will be in the $1400 range. I'm trying to put a bug in Curtis's ear about giving an extended boom option on his new Ballistic, but I don't know if it's working...as there may be design issues with running huge blades like that.
what size engine will go in it
You might be disappointed with the answer to this question. All of the 13 new helis that are coming out this year so far are electrics, with some having N options.
I have a KDE/NEU 1917 N42 electric motor that is incredibly powerful even on 12S. I will use this motor on my new 800mm heli. A 90N would be no where sufficient for this size heli doing 3D. The new YS 120 might fly it ok, but most all of the helis are E only. Besides I'm not too interested in glow, as I few it for many years before.
And btw, with 813mm blades, I can run larger packs for increased flight time. So we'll see, I like experimenting.
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