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08-03-2011 08:14 AM  6 years agoPost 381
Adam Henley

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First time in auto mode today!
Well it has been an adventure learning all this new technology. I've been flying gassers with flybars for 10 years. I now have a J3 FBL TT with an AceOne nearly set up. I had my head speed about 100 RPM's too low for my first 5 flights or so. This made it fly bad and had some subtle vibrations that were causing some IMU glitching. Amazing what a difference proper head speed can make! Anyway flipped into auto and all I had was a slow circle. It was getting late so I will start bringing the auto gains up tomorrow. Just blowing me away to experience it after watching videos for so long though.

I've never met a helicopter I didn't like :)

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08-06-2011 03:11 AM  6 years agoPost 382
Sidneyw

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Huntersville, NC

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FYI-

Both DJI owners will be at IRCHA next week .... a good time to chat with a good beer or two.

We developed algorithm for fully auto landing in Fail Safe for multi-rotor system, i.e. the aircraft will "return home", pause for x seconds and lands itself. So, the technology is here, it takes more guts to apply to single rotor with which there is more destructive power if the heli does not land on the exact spot from take off.

One of those discussion topics

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08-06-2011 04:18 AM  6 years agoPost 383
Adam Henley

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Oooh oooh! I definitely want to talk about this.

Question number one. When will we see multiple rotor stuff for sale and how much will it cost? Looks like you are close. I thought these systems were already available. Just expanding product line to compete in this multi-rotor market? Is DJI planning on selling a RTF system or just supply the autopilot? I completed my MJ3 with AceOne. My next project is going to be a multi-rotor. I'm hoping I'll be able to complete a good system for under $3000. Not sure if that's realistic though as I've never priced one out before.

Auto land is interesting. What goes up must come down and I would rather it's close to where I decided to take off than somewhere else. I mean as it stands now return home is AMAZING technology! But if you do experience a total TX failure it is just going to run out of battery/gas 90 feet in the air and crash. At least you would have a good chance of a safe landing this way. Could we eventually see this come to AceOne? You know I want it when you do. Maybe a free upgrade for semi auto TO&L owners and $500 for new license?

One can always wish and request right?

Thanks for reading my rants.

I've never met a helicopter I didn't like :)

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08-06-2011 11:09 AM  6 years agoPost 384
Sidneyw

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Huntersville, NC

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Adam,
Thank you for your great interest and support of the products.

1) DJI multi-rotor system is a high-end system for AP. Current available products in the market is not exactly apple to apple comparison I am afraid.
2) Even with our system you should be able to put one together $3,000.
3) The Fail safe auto landing is within a couple of square meters on average insofar from out test runs. We will do more test, and it will become a free upgrade two weeks after release.
4) As stated, we have the technology it is a matter of assuring 100% safety for single rotor which is a different animal comparing to multi-rotor. More discussion at IRCHA, I am sure.

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08-06-2011 04:02 PM  6 years agoPost 385
Helicek

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Ace One User Manual 2.1 release 2011.07.13 encourages the reader to check their website for help in Advance Parameters setup.
The sooner we have Parameter Settings Problems FAQ filled in the better.
Ahmet

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08-06-2011 04:14 PM  6 years agoPost 386
Sidneyw

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Ahmet,
On page 10 here April 30 -
Velocity tracking is to adjust or increase forward flight speed in head wind condition. The bad is after adjustment you are into tail wind.

"I" value is to accelerate forward speed when stick command is given; the bad is it will abruptly pull back in slow down or stop.
Hope this help .... will post this at FAQ section.

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08-13-2011 02:41 PM  6 years agoPost 387
Adam Henley

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Getting a little slow here so I thought I would bring up something I noticed on the last DJI video, seen here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNrbtwr6fRM

I noticed that the artificial horizon in AceOne View is correct tilting forward and backward. However, banking left and right are backwards. I'm not a current "View" customer but I'm interested in it. Is this an option in the software to have it read out this way? or is it programmed backwards?

I'm a full scale pilot and having that backwards would really mess with my mind if I purchased this upgrade.

Thanks for the help from anyone that can shed some light on my finding.

I've never met a helicopter I didn't like :)

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08-15-2011 06:02 AM  6 years agoPost 388
nzflier

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I to am getting very poor satellite reception.Occasionaly the lights go out but most of the time I get three red flashes and the heli will move of in some random direction, then it starts flashing 3 white lights.
Is anyone else experiencing anything like this.

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08-15-2011 09:43 AM  6 years agoPost 389
slicemeister

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Auckland, New Zealand

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Hi NZflier,
i have had to go back to my DJI 3.1. I am getting sent another GPS from DJI but your post makes me nervous. I'll keep you posted how i get on. PM me if you have any break thoughs.
Matt

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08-16-2011 02:23 AM  6 years agoPost 390
ddmt

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Maybe because of the solar flare?

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08-16-2011 02:46 AM  6 years agoPost 391
nzflier

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I had wondered this. I have an app for my phone that tells me how many sats it sees, and it seems to always see at least 6.
Also it seems the older DJI 3.1 is still working over this way.

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08-16-2011 04:05 AM  6 years agoPost 392
UAVProducts

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Mchigan, USA

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What app is this on your iPhone?

Yes, solar flares have big impact on GPS.

Robert
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08-16-2011 09:15 AM  6 years agoPost 393
nzflier

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The app is called GPS TEST and is for an android phone.

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08-20-2011 11:14 PM  6 years agoPost 394
Sidneyw

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Huntersville, NC

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Need Your Inputs ....

Adding RTH-Landing feature to Ace One. Unlike multi-rotor, this might not give you 100% successful landing; 60%????

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08-20-2011 11:41 PM  6 years agoPost 395
tott

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Sineyw.....

Hey there may be a request or need for such from others....

For me....I would rather have telemetry right from the ACEone. I know this is available on the VIEW upgrade, but I would like to see GPS location , altitude, etc and NOT necessarily the model moving through a virtual map as in the ACEone View........

Just my 2 cents.....

JASON

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08-21-2011 12:35 AM  6 years agoPost 396
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Mchigan, USA

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40% failure rate is 40% more then I think most would want.

Robert
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08-21-2011 12:46 AM  6 years agoPost 397
Adam Henley

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Me again. Of course you already know how I feel about this. But maybe give the option for how long it will hover above home and let the user decide. Like 30 seconds all the way up to 5 minutes. Because. For me on an electric heli I would say if I have not gotten radio contact back within about a minute of it returning home. I'm probably not going to get my radio problem fixed before the flight pack is dead. So rather than have the helicopter simply run out of battery and crash while auto hovering above home. It will try to land. This is good incentive to choose good take off sites with safe margins of space. If someone is planning on taking off from a very tight spot between two buildings for example. They should start up ace assistant and turn this feature off as this flight will be mostly manual control anyway and the odds of a crash would be high with failsafe landing.

The reason behind a possible 5 minute wait time above "home" would be for gas helicopters with longer endurance. True perfection would be if you could program AceOne to know how long your endurance is and it would keep track and land in failsafe if it's to close to running out of flight power. Otherwise it would fly as long as possible before attempting a landing.

I hope I'm not getting annoying with my ideas.

I've never met a helicopter I didn't like :)

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08-21-2011 12:58 AM  6 years agoPost 398
Adam Henley

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Robert' I agree with you if this was to be used as a normal feature. But I would rather have a 60% chance of success than a 100% chance of failure if a fuse decides to fail on my transmitter. One less thing to worry about. Would be pretty amazing if some punk decided to come sneak up behind you grab your transmitter and smash it on the ground. You would actually be able to tackle him to the ground grind is face in the dirt and turn his head to watch your helicopter complete a perfect touchdown. Over the years I've had some crazy stuff happen. Bee fly between my face and sunglasses, dogs go between my legs people bump into me etc. Nice to know DJI has got your back.

I've never met a helicopter I didn't like :)

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08-21-2011 03:43 AM  6 years agoPost 399
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I agree it is a nice feature to have. I was just giving Sidney a hard time. I talk to him twice a day on the phone so after awhile I like taking cheap shots at him.

Also, I have had a heli hold hover in Auto mode with the battery dying and as the head speed slowly decreased the heli landed itself smoothly. This was back in the old XP 3.1 days. I think it was a Joker 700mm.

Robert
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08-21-2011 04:15 AM  6 years agoPost 400
tott

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Maui Hawaii

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..
It would be GREAT if the ACEone was able to be programed to your specific flight times.

If you were flying a mission (or if you lost connection) and it was nearing the end of flight time, the ACEone would recognize this and then take action.

Perhaps the first action would be to send a visual feedback, and at a certain interval when it was even further depleted it would start the return to home feature automatically.

The last and final action would be to start the auto land feature when the power reserve was at the point of eminent failure.

Perhaps the helicopter will hold a height based on your prior programming. The height the helicopter holds after return to home should be able to be "set". This would allow you to take into consideration the landing conditions on your decision.

Of course this should be able to be turned on and off as long as you have the helicopter connected via radio transmission.

Have a system that "takes steps" seems to make the most sense....Then when all else fails the 60% chance of success looks REALLY GOOD...knowing that the system exhausted all other options...

Again just my 2 cents..

JASON

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