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11-18-2011 06:54 PM  6 years agoPost 161
BladeStrikes

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Richardmid1
Bladestrikes, thats fine for people getting 8-10 min flight times, if that were the case then nitro helis really would die off!
What are you talking about?Did you notice the mAh put back in?That's after a 4:30 min flight so I have a easy 1-2 min's left in my lipo's..If I fly my pack's down to 80%,my 90 size nitro's get a WHOLE 30-45 sec's more flight time.That's enough time for another flip and auto if it doesn't run out of fuel LOL..I got 7 min's with my 700N/Raptor 90's and around 6 min's with my Trex 600N...
Sooo for me----> flight time's about even,I can fly my electric just as much in a day AND close to the same flight time and back to back fly if I want..
Really no difference in flight time and back to back flying to me..

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11-18-2011 07:14 PM  6 years agoPost 162
bkervaski

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Synergy N5c w/OS55 vs 12s E6 = same flight time, 5:30-6:30 depending on how hard.

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11-19-2011 12:01 AM  6 years agoPost 163
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Just had to say...
Justin,

Your set-up is neat & sweet!!
A great example for electric flyers everwhere
Of course, not everyone would go that extreme, but - Still, a very encouraging post!

just my 2 cents.

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11-19-2011 09:18 PM  6 years agoPost 164
Richardmid1

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Bladestrikes,

I was talking about this statement,
I could back to back fly with 2 flight set's if I want as it will take 10-12 min's to fully charge both of my 6S 5000mAh pack's at the same time.By the time im finished with a flight,my other pack's would be 2 min's away from charged
This implies that you get 8-10 min flight times.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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11-19-2011 10:01 PM  6 years agoPost 165
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Richardmid1 Bladestrikes,

I was talking about this statement,
I could back to back fly with 2 flight set's if I want as it will take 10-12 min's to fully charge both of my 6S 5000mAh pack's at the same time.By the time im finished with a flight,my other pack's would be 2 min's away from charged
This implies that you get 8-10 min flight times.
No it doesn't and I never said anything about getting 8-10 min flight time's LOL..
It shows a fact lipo's can charge in 10 min's so not sure where you get 8-10 min flight time's from 10 min charge time .What does charging in 10 min's have to do with 8-10 min flight time ?Timer go's off,you land,walk to pick the heli up,walk back,turn everything off ect...Takes a few min's alone to do that with my nitro's and electric's.

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11-21-2011 11:05 AM  6 years agoPost 166
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If you charge in 12 mins and when you have finished a flight the packs are 2 mins away from charge then thats a 10 min flight in my book!

Please don't bend the truth.

For the majority of us its 20 mins AT LEAST to charge 2 6s 5000 packs and around 5 mins flight time although its been a while since ive been able to fly an electric for that long.

So for me and many others it would be a 15 min wait if only using 2 flight packs to fly back to back.

Multiple cheap packs is the way to go for ME.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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11-21-2011 11:10 AM  6 years agoPost 167
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you are both exagerating i recon.
even a single 400 watt charger can charge a pair of 6s pax in a half hour.

fiddling time, model check over time, bit of gasbagging, fiddling with the chargers, strapping in pax, half and hour can go fast.

if youve only got a short sharp hour or so, then multiple pax are the go, assuming you arnt running your gear hot flight after flight.

nice setup justin.

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11-21-2011 03:16 PM  6 years agoPost 168
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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I've yet to log my 700e, but I hooked up a JLog2 to my Trex 550 with a Jive 100LV and a Scorpion 4025-1100.

Originally, I had landed the helicopter and given it about 10 minutes to cool off. I know the Scorpion motors always run hot, but I thought the ESC needed some time to cool off after each flight. But to my amazement, once I attached the JLog2, I realized that after I hit throttle hold to land, by the time the helicopter touched down on the ground the ESC temperature was identical to that at the end of the initial spoolup. So in essence, there is no need to stop and let anything cool down (at least with the setup I am currently monitoring).

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11-21-2011 06:31 PM  6 years agoPost 169
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Heliguychris
Maybe you and Richard are the one's exagerating ,try watching the end of the 2 video's posted .Sound's like you fiddle with thing's too much..Plug the pack's in and push the button,nothing to fiddle with lol.Pack's are on a tray,pull and push in which take's a whole 30-45 sec's ..Again,nothing to fiddle with ..

Richardmid1,
Timer go's off,you land,walk to pick the heli up,walk back,turn everything off ect...Takes a few min's alone to do that with my nitro's and electric's.
Maybe you didn't see what I said so I quoted it above for ya..

Land the heli..Pull the pack's out,stick them on the charger and push start..Ok,pack's are charging..

Take's close to 2 min's between putting the other pack's in,turning the heli on (I run a stright 6.6V RX pack,no bec),powering the esc/motor,put the canopy on and walk out to sit the heli down..

Take's about 2 min's to do the above statement on top of the 4:30 min flight..That's 6:30 mins right?Then read what's in the quote .Pack's are about charged .
Clearly the video's show a 10-12 min charge time for ME so there's no bending the truth from ME.How can you bend the truth with a video showing a solid fact?

I only use 2 flight set's.No reason for multiple flight set's ...I have charged like above twice with a buddy's 2000W Yamaha gen so I know for a fact what my charge time's are and how fast I can fly.

Heliguychris pretty much said it take's him over a half hour to charge and get back in the air.With my cheap gen charging at 13A,im back in the air in less than a half hour.Heck,if I had a good gen,I wouldn't even need 2 flight set's.Just one flight set and wouldn't have to take it out of the heli.Just charge and fly,charge and fly...

No pun in my post and no arguing..That's what it's like for ME flying E's..

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11-21-2011 10:07 PM  6 years agoPost 170
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>So for me and many others it would be a 15 min wait if only using 2 flight packs to fly back to back.

Multiple cheap packs is the way to go for ME.<

The only problem with more than 2 packs is, if you have only one charger, they "stack up" after the first couple of flights. I.e. you have a dead one in the heli, but also a dead one on the bench waiting to get charged, and then the currently charging one. So at that point, it almost doesn't do you any good to have the extra pack. You still have to wait for one to come off the charger and at that point you merely have 2 dead batts in the pipeline rather than one.

With 2 chargers, tho, a 3rd pack then makes sense, because you can go "wide" - 2 packs charging at once while you fly the 3rd...

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11-22-2011 11:39 PM  6 years agoPost 171
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You guys still going on about what it takes to charge a battery versus squirt some fuel?

Honestly, if you're all that concerned with back to back flying...you need to get a life. LOL Nothing serious meant by that.

To me, it doesn't matter if you have to lug 100 pounds of gear with you....or spend some time fiddling with needles or wrestling a squirting hose.

For me, it all about what gives the best amount of power...NITRO!

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11-23-2011 02:12 AM  6 years agoPost 172
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Holy Crap batman, I disappear for more than a month and this is still ongoing?

HAHA

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11-23-2011 04:50 AM  6 years agoPost 173
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Holy Crap batman, I disappear for more than a month and this is still ongoing?
Since your disappearance, there weren't too many pink notices given out to warrant topic closing.

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11-23-2011 11:07 PM  6 years agoPost 174
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Point taken....

your smiley face seems to be eating sushi

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11-23-2011 11:16 PM  6 years agoPost 175
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Yum. My favorite Tuna Rolls!!!

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11-24-2011 10:32 AM  6 years agoPost 176
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Take's about 2 min's to do the above statement on top of the 4:30 min flight..That's 6:30 mins right?Then read what's in the quote .Pack's are about charged .
Clearly the video's show a 10-12 min charge time for ME so there's no bending the truth from ME.How can you bend the truth with a video showing a solid fact?
I never said you bent the truth about how long it takes you to charge your packs. So lets call it 11 mins, 2 mins to land, walk and pull the packs out so your right thats 6.5 mins after a 4.5 min flight, thats still a 4.5 min wait which isn't long I know but you originally said 2 mins away from charged!

Im just saying. Lets just drop it.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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11-24-2011 02:45 PM  6 years agoPost 177
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we are in disagreement over half minutes now?

I'm lost

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11-24-2011 03:29 PM  6 years agoPost 178
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Justin...i like it! I need to do something similar, 'cause my strategy so far has been to have 5 sets of packs, which is too much $$. It also is a drag to spend a lot of time at home charging packs, when it could be done at the field. Thanks for the post. It saves me from making it up all on my own!

In terms of letting things cool, i fly 700 size electrics on 12s set-ups (Kontronik motors, one with a powerjazz and one with the jive120HV), and I find I can fly back to back to back all five sets of packs 'cause in the amount of time it takes to land, change packs, and get back out to the flight line, both motor and esc are more than cool enough to fly. I have also had two Scorpion motors, and never had any issues even though they ran hotter. Sometimes I waited an extra minute or two with them to let them cool, but it was never an issue.

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11-24-2011 03:38 PM  6 years agoPost 179
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It is a nice list of items come to think of it. Hey Justin, you think you could add order codes and shopping tips to the list. I'm thinking it makes for a great Xmas wish list myself.

Team POP Secret

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11-27-2011 06:15 PM  6 years agoPost 180
Chris G.

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kinda makes you wonder.

you see the gasser guys bring only the heli/tx/can of gas to the field.

expensive setup for E helis

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