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01-15-2011 10:53 PM  7 years agoPost 1
jadams

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I enjoy reading posts on RR but the JR/spektrum section just makes me shake my head. I started out on JR 2.4 but after issues with binding and lockouts I switched to a 8FG and never looked back. I just dont understand why guys would buy a dx8 or any other spektrum radio after spending 5 min reading about the issues. I have yet to read post of a confirmed lockout with FASST. Its hard to feel bad for guys that crash on spektrum. Sorry rant over....

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01-16-2011 12:42 AM  7 years agoPost 2
windy62

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Stirring the pot?

I could find posts all over that may make you QUIT flying altogether, much less use a Futaba radio..

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01-16-2011 01:11 AM  7 years agoPost 3
jadams

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Yes I am bored and have nothing better to do. I know you could....and normally if a part or device is failing or causing crashes the masses avoid it.

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01-16-2011 01:14 AM  7 years agoPost 4
Steff Giguere

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I read more complaints about the Spektrum than about the JR. But I make my choices and let others make their choices.

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01-16-2011 03:44 AM  7 years agoPost 5
Gehrbox

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Are there more Spektrum posts because there are more users of the brand?

Is Toyota a bad brand because there were a number of accidents in 2010 due to stuck throttles?

Why is the iPhone 4 so successful after all the bad press over a poor antenna design?

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01-16-2011 04:08 AM  7 years agoPost 6
steve9534

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yakima, wa.

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Brand wars
I've had two out of three Futaba 7C radios have a problem with the power connector pins on the main circuit board coming loose at the solder joints. One caused a plank to crash and be destroyed on it's second flight after it had been checked out and declared to be OK by Hobby Services. I had a 6 channel Spektrum receiver that wouldn't consistently bind new out of the package, but no other problems with one 6 and one 7 channel Spektrum transmitters and about ten different receivers. The problem receiver was replaced w/o question by Horizon. I'm currently flying a Spektrum and a Futaba radio getting several flights a week minimum on each. At the fun flies I've been to the last few years Spektrum has outnumbered Futaba by probably 10:1 so it's not a surprise that there might be more reports of problems with their radios. My own experience has been that they are more reliable than Futaba and the service has been better, but to each his own. steve.

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01-18-2011 01:54 AM  7 years agoPost 7
tryan02

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Canton, Missouri

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I am an electronics tech in the broadcast industry. Aftr reading technical data on the radios I chose a futaba 6EX. I had purchased 3 receivers for different models before I upgraded to the 10CG I now have 6 RX's. And the 6EX is still in the cabinet. No problems with anything yet after a few years.

I bought a BNF micro T-28 from parkzone little 15" plank. I got a DX5 for it nothing but trouble have to rebind after a dozen flights or so.

But this seems to be normal as the rest of the guy's are pure spektrum consumers. And they all rebind now and then.

No Really I am the club President!!!

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01-18-2011 02:26 PM  7 years agoPost 8
jadams

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It is not about brand wars..or numbers. Do a search and find me some posts where a futaba flier has had a lockout or needed to rebind before,during or after a flight. Spektrum clearly has software issues that have not been fixed in atleast 4 different transmitters. The new dx8 has a new shape with the same old issues. I would have thought spektrum would have fixed the problem by now but they call it issolated and not reproduceable. Fliers had problems with certain Align blades self destructing..they were pulled from the market. Just one example of a company reacting to complaints on run ryder.

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01-18-2011 02:28 PM  7 years agoPost 9
BarracudaHockey

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Jacksonville FL

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I was an electroic tech in the airborne defense industry

I fly both, they both work.

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01-18-2011 03:04 PM  7 years agoPost 10
tryan02

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I was an electroic tech in the airborne defense industry

I fly both, they both work.
definition of work can be vague.

Then you understand what a full spectrum radio is? And you realized that Spektrum only picked a few channels cause they were not capable at the time of a full spektrum system. That alone told me that they were a bit inferior to the Futaba technology. I wasnt to keen on the idea of relying on the TX ID flying on the same frequency as others.

Now the binding is a separate issue that is a problem that really ruins the confidence a consumer would have in there product. I know of 6 people that have had this problem and the spektrum systems are now being used for park flyer planes of low value.

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01-18-2011 04:59 PM  7 years agoPost 11
Nelson34

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San jose ca

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I like Chevys! But both my brothers drive Fords-both 'work' and there are some things I like about the Ford I wish Chevy would do. Apple or PC? Iphone or Droid? I think no matter what your into your going to be faced with options and arguments against it. I ride road bikes-huge argument over SRAM and Shimano parts-This is done on purpose-I have Spectrum but like what Futaba is doing-so thinking of running both-

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01-18-2011 05:06 PM  7 years agoPost 12
BarracudaHockey

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Jacksonville FL

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Yes I understand how SS works.

I have complete confidence in both systems. I've had DSM2 since it came out and the one problem I was ready to blame on a radio link issue turned out to be a bad regulator (duralite no less)

I fly them in everything from 90 size scale helis to 50cc gassers to 2.6m gliders.

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01-18-2011 05:09 PM  7 years agoPost 13
Bruchpilote

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El Paso

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will never fly a JR, remember Pearl Harbor, Hawaii

fly till it hurts !!!!!

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01-18-2011 05:24 PM  7 years agoPost 14
RCHeliJim

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Much like BarracudaHockey, I have been flying DSM2 since day one, had a DX7 as soon as they were available. I have thousands of flights on dozens of different birds over the years using a DX7 and X9303 - not one single issue, not a one.

That is not to say that I do not like what Futaba is doing, in fact I prefer their method of transmission theoretically - but I have complete real-world confidence in DSM2 and cant justify the changeover cost since their would be a net benefit of zero in my case. If the new Futaba flybarless pans out to be the cat's meow I may have a reason to switch just for the ability to adjust the unit from the radio as that would be slick, but for now there would be no benefit to the move for me.

Of course, you will read more issues on the forums regarding DSM2 as there are MANY times more users (I wish we had an official count from both companies on units sold in the US) and a huge majority of beginners start out with a DSM2 radio as that is what most people around them fly, they are marketed in the shops more aggressively, and they are historically more affordable to own overall. With that number of new pilots you also get a large number of those that don't yet understand power needs, antenna placement, etc. Remove the DX8 issues from the equation and the DSM2 offerings have been proven to be quite stable.

Anyway, this battle will continue on I am sure, but in the end both these systems seem to work in the average pilot's world. While I like the Futaba schema better from a technical standpoint, I have no real reason to move since I haven't had an issue.
will never fly a JR, remember Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
Futaba is based in the same country, FYI



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01-18-2011 06:10 PM  7 years agoPost 15
twopens

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I started with futaba radios, had a couple of them. When 2.4 first came out I couldn't wait to switch over to it. The first on the block that I was aware of was XPS 2.4 systems. I bought 2 or 3 of those to try out and after several months I started to doubt their claims even though I never had any problems with their gear.

Then spektrum showed up and I eagerly switched to them, but not before checking to see what futaba had on the market; which was nothing. My dx7 and several receivers were doing fine for MANY months and there was still nothing available from futaba so I finally went and put about a dozen aircraft on spektrum receivers. When Futaba 2.4 finally came out I considered switching, some friends were trying to get me to switch. I was fairly committed by the number of receivers I'd already bought. Then when the futaba zero GUID problem thingy hit it was hard to tell how bad that was going to be so I just stuck with spektrum.

I do feel that the futaba schema, as the previous poster mentioned, is a superior method of SS, especially with the rise of 2.4 video transmitters around rc fields. I've seen my friends and some pros have issues at joe nall with spektrum in the past, usually momentary loss of control but usually recoverable. At joe nall I'd MUCH prefer the futaba method. That's the only place I personally have seen spektrum systems have issues.

However, since I'd have to buy so many receivers, in addition to the TX, I just keep what I've got. And to be honest I've never had one single glitch or hiccup with any of my spektrum gear. But I'm still using the dx7se, didn't get an 8.

If I was starting over with no previous investment, I'd most likely go Futaba, but I've have great success with spektrum and don't plan to change unless the manufacturer balance of power has some major shift.

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01-18-2011 08:18 PM  7 years agoPost 16
tryan02

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Canton, Missouri

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I am curious to see if any of the rumors are going to come true.

1: JR dropping the DSM2 for DSS and dropping spektrum technology label.

2: spektrum license revoked for not using true full spectrum only channels.

3: having to lower radiated power due to the fact of rumor 2

4: DSM2 being dropped all together spektrum and JR.

Believe it or not I hope its not true I know too many people using spektrum stuff and would cost thousands to replace.

No Really I am the club President!!!

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01-18-2011 08:19 PM  7 years agoPost 17
kcordell

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DSS already in use in Japan. Funny, in Japan DSM2 is illegal.

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01-18-2011 08:19 PM  7 years agoPost 18
Four Stroker

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Atlanta

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I took a cheap spectrum analyzer out to the field. I watched it all afternoon. There is nothing out in the outback where we fly. Most fields are like this. Both systems work fine in this scenario. There is not much in my neighborhood either. Locations may vary. Of course Spektrum is one step above XPS. If you never crash why would you care ?

Most guys crash by their own hand.

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01-18-2011 08:28 PM  7 years agoPost 19
helismash

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Gloversville, NY - Fulton

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I had the battery in my DX7 fail and cost me an aircraft, however, I have NEVER had an issue with a link problem with my DX7 or my 9303. I'm not going to bash Futaba. I think they both work well and if I had to do it over again, I would most likely go back to Spektrum/JR.

Hey, Who put the ground there!
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01-18-2011 08:34 PM  7 years agoPost 20
RappyTappy

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Love my trusty DX7, has never let me down. Can't say the same about Futaba radios I've had in the past.

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