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HomeAircraftHelicopterSafety - RC Helis are not toys › People dont understand the importance of a good build.
01-12-2011 01:30 AM  7 years agoPost 1
THEBUILDER

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SPRINGVILLE,INDIANA - USA

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I am redoing a helicopter for a local hobby store owner. He had the helicopter put together by a guy that flys helicopters. This is a trex 600e. Heres what i was going to originally do to the heli. I was going to just put a mini vbar 5.0 on it and convert the head to fbl. When i got it home the heli had 4 diiferent servos on it. 3 analogs and 1 digital. None of them were the same. The heli had a cracked frame and a bent tail rotor shaft. The hobby store owner flew this once or twice and the guy who built it forgot to put the 4 bolts in the flybar cage. The screws in the feathering shaft i took out with my fingers. NO loctite used whats so ever. The thrust bearings had no grease on them either. The tail unit wasnt tite on the tail boom either. No loctite was used on this heli no where. People dont understand that this little toy can easyly kill someone. One screw comes out and those blades could go right through you. This guy that built it just slapped it together and charged the guy over a 150 bucks. Can you belive this.

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01-12-2011 01:33 AM  7 years agoPost 2
OICU812

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Edson, Alberta, Canada

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Yes can believe it! And you are right the build is in fact one of the most if not most important parts. For reasons of safety to the owner and the others nearby, there are many crappy builds out there and it is scary not knowing who did and did not use ca, loctite, who just taped something together etc!

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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01-12-2011 02:27 AM  7 years agoPost 3
jjeaster222000

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I did see this bird! It was pathetic...

Team Synergy

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01-18-2011 03:45 PM  7 years agoPost 4
chopper_crazy

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Delphos, Ohio

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no respect for a large bird. It's all fun and games until someone get hurt

It's a complex, costly, glow powered anti-gravity machine!

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01-18-2011 04:17 PM  7 years agoPost 5
rcmiket

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El Paso,Texas

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I do all the builds and repairs for the LHS here and I've seen some really "interesting" approaches to some of the customers builds. They bring them in after they have screwed everything up I get to rebuild the mess. Then there's the crap people buy off Flea Bay then bring in to get it flying. It never ceases to amaze me. The kicker is when they start whining about the cost of getting them done properly. Like it's my fault they pissed away twice what a new heli would have cost in the first place. Keeps me in heli parts though.
Mike

"When Inverted down is up and up is expensive"

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01-18-2011 04:38 PM  7 years agoPost 6
Steff Giguere

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St-Eustache, Quebec, Canada

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We see things like that around here too. When guys come to the club with helis looking like what you explained I tell then to fix before they fly. Or fly when no one is around, it is if they don't care about their own safety.

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01-18-2011 04:49 PM  7 years agoPost 7
Solmanbandit

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Tucson , AZ

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Well when I was new to the hobby, I was clueless and had no help at all. The LHS I used to go to was a complete joke. I made mistakes along the way and learned as things happened or if someone told me. So I can relate to a lot of people. Now as far as the guy charging $150 to do a half ass job? Don't get me started on that one. I do occasional work on heli's for people, but I am confident in the work I do and feel I have the knowledge to do it right. As far as FBL, forget it. I wouldn't have the experience on how to do FBL or nitro's.

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01-18-2011 06:51 PM  7 years agoPost 8
Ghia

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Aww FBL is easy! just close your eyes and start hitting buttons...

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02-16-2011 04:37 AM  7 years agoPost 9
helibeast

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Mn

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A bad build equals a dangerous bird. The only thing good about it is that it will re-kit its self so you can try again.

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02-16-2011 01:24 PM  7 years agoPost 10
rcmiket

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El Paso,Texas

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'A bad build equals a dangerous bird. The only thing good about it is that it will re-kit its self so you can try again.

schluter champion,xcell 60,bergen intrepid,nexus"

Unless it's hit you or a bystander.
Mike

"When Inverted down is up and up is expensive"

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02-19-2011 01:42 AM  7 years agoPost 11
helismash

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Gloversville, NY - Fulton

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Yep, when I purchase a used heli, I take it apart and start over unless I KNOW the person who built it. Then, I like to give it a quick once over just to be sure.
My buddy just bought a used LE that was supposed to be RTF. Nope, not even close. spindle bolts were not tight along with a host of other problems. If he just flew it, it would have resulted in a re-kit. Or worse, someone could have been hurt.

Hey, Who put the ground there!
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11-20-2011 03:45 AM  6 years agoPost 12
HeliOCD

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San Diego, CA

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The one thing that gets me mad is seeing poorly constructed heli's.
For the safety of all, please take your time to learn everything about the build at hand. Take your time, and check over everything many times.. Heli's are high speed precision machines, and should be built and treated with respect..
Be smart...

Its all earth!

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08-01-2012 06:23 PM  5 years agoPost 13
weaselbean

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Joplin,Mo 64801

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I'm pretty much the only local guy around for miles where I live that fly's helicopters. I get some people that bring me what they think is a T-Rex 450 and they got a awesome deal off E-bay and this thing will be a Chinase knock off with a DX6 (the radio I hate the most for working with noobs) They will also have some pathetic knock off gyro no lock tight any where and nothing is balanced right the blades are out of track and the servos move in the wrong direction and they expect to just be able to take it right out in to the street and fly it around no problem! I just want to shoot some of these guy's and the guy's that want to start with the helicopters first over the airplanes are the worst you can't tell them a damn thing!

Quit crying about your airplane and fly already!!!

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03-06-2013 02:40 PM  5 years agoPost 14
jacki222

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canada

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Yes i understand your feeling about the build the model but those person who have no knowledge about the model which is build how you can imagine that those people understand the importance of the build thing easily?

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03-12-2015 03:00 AM  3 years agoPost 15
mk2fanatic

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Portland Maine

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This subject truly hits home for me considering I am in the process of building my first kit. I am taking this process very slowly and following ALL directions from the manufacturer. As far as components go, I'm going with what is suggested by the manufacturer (they would know what works and what doesn't). Since this is my first build, I've also been doing extensive research on setting up the esc, and fbl.
Last thing I would want to happen is myself, or someone else getting hurt because of a rushed botch job.

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03-12-2015 06:20 PM  3 years agoPost 16
spinner55

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Tenaha, Tx USA

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Although I am not the most patient person in the world, I really take my time during a build. I have other heli's to fly so if I have to order the exact part I want, I'll wait for it. It's a great feeling of confidence knowing everything is built to my standards.

"Just because nobody complains doesn't mean all parachutes are perfect."

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03-12-2015 06:35 PM  3 years agoPost 17
Ace Dude

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USA

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It is often said that R/C helicopters are not for people who don't pay attention to fine detail.

  

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03-13-2015 03:15 AM  3 years agoPost 18
JEEPWORLD2002/2

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Blue Bell, Pa

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Since this is your first its best to take your Heli, radio and a few battery's to the local field or local hobby shop so sum one can double check ur settings n setup. Some time the manual doesn't get it close enough n or the setting could be off n you can smoke a esc or motor. Having binding in linkage could cook a servo. Also knowing how to set expo n rates for a beginner will go a long way with successful first hover. So fBL have beginner setting like the ikon to lower rates n servo speed similar to the newb rates in a micro quad copter they limit the yaw n roll axis . So a complete build with correct settings n set up will help along with wisdom from a experienced pilot and simulator time will be close second in my book

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03-13-2015 02:53 PM  3 years agoPost 19
mk2fanatic

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Portland Maine

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I took your advice and went down to my LHS to window shop. I know the guys there pretty well, and the main heli guy said he would be happy to check out my build and setup to make sure everything is good to go. He has helped me troubleshoot problems with a few of my other helis, so I trust his judgement.

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03-13-2015 04:18 PM  3 years agoPost 20
JEEPWORLD2002/2

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Blue Bell, Pa

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just a tid bit, make a pre and post flight check list and follow it routinely before and after every flight. as our heli break in, some things may need to be readjusted in ten flights. also locktite loosens from vibrations of flight so recheck your bolts and screws regularly. gains will need tweaking, so take baby steps till you make sure every thing is gonna work together oh and best advice HAVE FUN, heli are addictive before you know it you will have two maybe three then you will need one of each size

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