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01-11-2011 11:43 PM  7 years agoPost 81
helixangle

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Ive had and love anything I can control from a little box with no wires
I'd just like to have control over my little "box"

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01-12-2011 12:24 AM  7 years agoPost 82
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I'd just like to have control over my little "box"
My girlfriend understands this concept

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01-12-2011 12:26 AM  7 years agoPost 83
BobOD

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NASA trained monkeys to fly spaceships, so don't think too much of yourself....
UM....somehow I doubt the part about teaching a monkey to dump in a space suit was all that difficult at all.

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01-12-2011 12:28 AM  7 years agoPost 84
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If you flown a heli you can pick up the basics faster, but can you perform harrier rolls 3ft of the deck or even hover a plane without a lot of practice?, theres far more 3d manouvers to learn on a plane than there is a heli, and just as difficult.

I would say after I was flying helis for 2 years I was doing things like backflips, tic tocs and inverted hovering, I found after 4 years I was stuck in rut with helis not able to do much more (just starting inverted backward flying) and eventualy lost interest due to not being able to progress any further.

Now been flying planes for about 2 years and I can harrier and hover well, but theres much more still to learn like torque rolling and harrier rolls e.t.c Dont feel like Im indefinately stuck in a rut.

With helis you reach a point where the only next step is piroflips, if you cant grasp piroflips then you hit a brick wall and fliping a heli over again and again for years on end just gets very boring, ultimately I lost interest once I realized I could not get progress anymore, so far that has not happened with planes.

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01-12-2011 01:56 AM  7 years agoPost 85
PC12DRVR

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theres far more 3d manouvers to learn on a plane than there is a heli, and just as difficult.
That statement is a grasp at straws, helis by nature are controllable in 4 dimensions, airplanes by nature are only 3, that therefore gives many more possibilites in manuevering to the helicopter, hands down.

Last time I checked, planes cannot takeoff from a standstill and climb vertically without some foreward movement for the wings to generate lift. Hence the 4th dimension.

Coming from someone who has flown both in many types sizes and configurations,,,,, helis are harder, no question.

Technically the type of flying we do with helis should be called 4D

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01-12-2011 02:02 AM  7 years agoPost 86
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and fliping a heli over again and again for years on end just gets very boring,
You make it sound as though a heli couldn't do a harrier roll or something? Why not give that a try?

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01-12-2011 02:28 AM  7 years agoPost 87
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What prop do you use on the showtime?
I experimented with several props with ok results but not optimum.
A plank buddy recommended the APC 12.25x3.75 and that's the magic prop.

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01-12-2011 03:33 AM  7 years agoPost 88
ShuRugal

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Technically the type of flying we do with helis should be called 4D
Damn man, what heli are you flying that does not move a constant rate in the fourth dimension? You got yourself a time machine O.O

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01-12-2011 03:40 AM  7 years agoPost 89
ChuckJrster

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I've thought that many times myself. I mean, we live and breath in a 3D world...right!? So the 4th Dimension, Time, should be a factor, IF you wanna get really really scientific and "technical" about it.

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01-12-2011 04:12 AM  7 years agoPost 90
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As I said, if you cant do piroflip with a heli theres not much else you can do apart from the same old boring things you were doing pretty much in the first few months of flying, in reality how many people who start in this hobby actually end up doing piroflips??, fliping and flopping and makeing a lot of blade noise is all good for a while but the novelty soon wares off, after 4 maybe 5 years of flying helis I just ended up feeling more ashamed at my lack of progress, toward the end when people would ask how long Ide been flying for I would lie and just say a few months or so.

Im sure I will get another heli at some point, I origonaly bought a foam plane more as a joke than anything else, and ever since I seem to have completely lost the passion for rc helis, when I was flying helis I would never thought in a million years I would ever fly a plank, let alone give up helis completely and only fly planks.

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01-12-2011 04:23 AM  7 years agoPost 91
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With helis I think theres three levels, and it seems from what I see anyone who gets to level 3 gets there within 6 months, otherwise you just stay stuck at level 2 for ever, many never even get past level 1.

1. Hovering, fff, loops rolls and stall turns e.t.c

2. Back flips, forward flips, sideflips, tic tocs and inverted hovering.

^2B. Backward fight (upright or inverted), funnels e.t.c

3. Piro things.

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01-12-2011 04:37 AM  7 years agoPost 92
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Where do you fit aerobatic flight in there? Again, you seem to think a heli cannot perform similar aerobatic flight as a plane. ???

Just because many people want to progress to piro flips does not mean there isn't a whole world of other types of flying one can do with a heli.
Some of which are more...or less...challenging and fun as with a plank.

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01-12-2011 04:39 AM  7 years agoPost 93
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Bob,

+1 dude!

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01-12-2011 04:52 AM  7 years agoPost 94
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I guess what Im saying is I cant ever picture myself advanceing much further with rc helis, but with planes I feel given time and a maybe a few crashes I may actually be able to do the stuff I see them doing in the 3d videos and have some fun.

Even if money was not a limiting factor with helis I think eventually I would get sick of rebuilding every single time I attempted something new, I would be going through 10 helis each flying session one after another, just like hitting the reset button on the sim.
you seem to think a heli cannot perform similar aerobatic flight as a plane.
I was nearly about to say you cant hover a heli.

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01-12-2011 05:50 AM  7 years agoPost 95
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When I got into RC helicopters, I had no idea they could do anything beyond, well, flying. I have always had a thing for aircraft and especially helicopters and when I started my goal was to be able to just fly the thing. Obviously I found out there is more that can be done than just flying but I have no real desire to do anything beyond sport flying. I get my kicks from that and I don't care if I ever get beyond that.

I think if you just do it, have fun doing it and accidentally learn a new thing along the way you'll get more enjoyment. If you restrict yourself to having to always learn that next new thing then everything you do in life will lead to disappointment. It's the journey, not the destination. Maybe I'll never learn to piroflip, maybe it will suddenly click next week. Who cares. I get to see something flying and I am the one that is making it fly. That is good enough for me.

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01-12-2011 06:14 AM  7 years agoPost 96
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never flew rcplanes before helis
launched and flew a stryker for the first time last winter, of course I did crash it eventualy

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01-12-2011 06:17 AM  7 years agoPost 97
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You don't have to do hard 3D, but expanding your horizons will make you a better pilot. I don't know if I will ever get to hard 3D, but would like to do some. Just staying where you are isn't a journey, it is sitting on the porch. Regardless, if you are at a level that you are happy, then that is all that matters.

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01-12-2011 06:26 AM  7 years agoPost 98
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Maybe I'll never learn to piroflip, maybe it will suddenly click next week. Who cares. I get to see something flying and I am the one that is making it fly. That is good enough for me.
Well put! It's very exciting when you have a break through when you least expect it. I don't give a rats a$$ what the next screwball stunt the pros are doing. I flew planks the same way and had FUN!!!

Damn that ground is hard! When's the right time to get out of this money sucking hobby?

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01-12-2011 12:20 PM  7 years agoPost 99
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01-12-2011 02:39 PM  7 years agoPost 100
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Unsubscribed
I've seen some pretty useless posts. I even post useless nonsense now and then, but posting unsubscribed in almost every thread this morning takes the cake.

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