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01-02-2011 07:17 PM  7 years agoPost 1
danrc2

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ok i was looking for advice on what machine to get for a scale huey. i want to build a huey from vario but not sure on if i should go electric or gasser. i guess they both have their pro and cons. i like that electric has no mess with fuel but i dont like the high head speed. gas i can get a low head speed but can be more money and more things to go wrong and the mess of fuel and oil on the heli. any ideas or tips on whats best???

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01-02-2011 08:45 PM  7 years agoPost 2
Mojave

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Electric has come a long way...with a low KV motor, high quality governed esc and the right gearing, lower head speed is not a problem on electric machines. I have the vario 1100 UH1D model huey and I'm building it with e-power converted skyfox mechanics with a clutch. Another option would be the RC Aerodyne 800 size UH1B model huey, running Rex600 mechanics with their longer mainshaft and blade grip kit. From what I've heard it's a basic drop in set up and a quick build. Plus it's already painted... Just my .002

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01-02-2011 08:45 PM  7 years agoPost 3
marc28

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Check my gallery. The Vario Huey (benzin mechanics) has been converted from gas to electric using the electric conversion kit available from eastcoastscalehelicopters. I'm running the same head speed (1150-1200) The Vario use's 800mm blades so you wont be spinning them much higher than that. What mechanics do you plan on using?

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01-02-2011 10:44 PM  7 years agoPost 4
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The electric conversion on the Benzin mechs is a pretty nice set up from what I've seen. I have no "working experience" with it but know some guys that have it and love it. Mine is still running on the Zenoah motor. I've not had any issues with it being messy or oily as the gas motors run much cleaner then the nitros I had in my other scalers. No mess to clean at the end of the days flying.

Christopher J
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01-03-2011 01:39 AM  7 years agoPost 5
danrc2

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thanks guys. im pretty new to helis. but what i seen i can run the lower head speed even with electric??? love to get the head speed as low as i can but yet still have a very stable heli. again thanks for the info

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01-03-2011 02:10 AM  7 years agoPost 6
Mojave

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Have a look at my build thread on the vario huey and get a feel for the amount of work/fabricating that is involved with a true builders model. This will help you to decide if the full build is for you. There are easier alternatives out there for a first scale build. Just my .002

https://rc.runryder.com/t595748p1/

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01-03-2011 06:10 AM  7 years agoPost 7
danrc2

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well after looking at your build it has me a little scared that it may be over my head. i was looking around for another uh-1D and cant find any. all the others are uh-1B. looking to build a scale model of the uh-1D which my uncle flew in up until he past away at 54 y/o from cancer. looking for an unpainted version. looked a skyhunterhobbies and century. anyone else have the D model???

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01-03-2011 03:19 PM  7 years agoPost 8
BarracudaHockey

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Electric is clean, no need to worry about fuel proofing,exhaust routing, heat, and it sure sounds a lot more turbine like without the cost and waiver of a real turbine

Also if you install a clutch adapter the start up is really cool as the motor spins up then grabs and the blades come up to speed.

It requires some experience with battery handling but there's gobs of information on that subject around.

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01-03-2011 05:13 PM  7 years agoPost 9
Mojave

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To my knowledge there are no other large pre-fab UH1D models out there. Chances are at 54 yrs old, your uncle probably had seat time in a "B" model also. Back in the early 80's we still had a few B model hueys in our unit. Anyway, get the B model, learn to fly scale, then start on a big D model project.

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01-03-2011 08:30 PM  7 years agoPost 10
rsun

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Hey guys

What about the electric mechanic from Vario.
Is that a bad option for a electric scale?

After what I can read on RR it is not something that are that popular and used in a scale.

http://www.vario-helicopter.de/elek...c_182.html?&L=1

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Rene
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01-03-2011 09:56 PM  7 years agoPost 11
danrc2

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i can fly scale birds pretty well. i have now a MD530 with a rappy 50 titan. i have been flying giant scale planks for almost 5 yrs including 33% gasser 3D. so i can fly very well. i have been flying helis for about 4 yrs serious for two yrs. sold all my planes for helis!!! going with my true love in r/c... as for the heli model, i will most likely go with vario. not sure on machanics yet. now that i see how you guys can really lower the head speed to get the scale look. thank you for all the help. seems like the electric motor and clutch set up seems really cool. i believe skyfox has the electric conversion kit...that could be a very good possiblity

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01-04-2011 12:47 AM  7 years agoPost 12
Mojave

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Cool. Didn't mean to critique your flying ability, just thought you were new to scale. I think you will find a low rotor speed scale bird to be a bit more of a challenge the the higher speed rotor heads. The first time I flew my 3 blade head at 1300 RPM it gave me quite an eye opener. They just don't have the same crisp POP when you throw collective into them and the flair is very soft. The skyfox electric conversion kit is sold by Joe at east coast scale heli. If you want to run a clutch with it, you'll have to change the mounting hole pattern to move the mount higher in the frames and adapt the clutch to your motor and also run the 65 tooth main gear from vario.

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01-05-2011 02:35 AM  7 years agoPost 13
danrc2

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again, thanks for all your help. im hope to order the skyfox kit within a month or so. are you going with the scale head from vario??? if so, are you using a flybarless controller?

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01-05-2011 03:55 AM  7 years agoPost 14
Mojave

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I'm running vbar and that's a Miniature AC rotor head on the huey. I may change it sometime down the road, but for now it stays.

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01-05-2011 07:00 PM  7 years agoPost 15
danrc2

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do you know how that scale head from vario is??

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01-05-2011 10:34 PM  7 years agoPost 16
Mojave

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I have never run one. You might want to give Taylormade helis a shout. He's one of the advertisers on this site, or Joe at East Coast Scale helis (vario rep).

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