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12-30-2010 10:04 PM  7 years agoPost 1
Isaac F

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You can read this at http://webraengines.com/index1.html

Dear Webra Customer,

We are so sorry to announce you that our company
WEBRA Modellmotoren GmbH & Co. KG in A-2551 Enzesfeld, Eichengasse 9 - AUSTRIA
is in bankruptcy and cease to Thursday, December 23, 2010 its activities for model engines and electronics products.

The reason why this happens was the low cost products made in China which comes more and more for toys as for the real model building. Therefore found the market lower and lower interest in our high quality products.
By this way we will thank you for your good co-operation in past and we will wish you all the best and many business success in future.

Remain with

„Many happy landings“

Yours WEBRA-Team

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12-30-2010 10:17 PM  7 years agoPost 2
TheWoodCrafter

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I didn't realize they were still around.

Too bad, another one bites the dust.

Thanks, TheWoodCrafter

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12-30-2010 10:20 PM  7 years agoPost 3
thtoyman

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to bad. I love my Webra engines.

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12-30-2010 10:26 PM  7 years agoPost 4
Isaac F

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Do you remember when Super Tigre engines were made in Italy? Now they are made in China. Maybe this is what will happen to Webra.

Isaac

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12-30-2010 10:38 PM  7 years agoPost 5
thtoyman

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yes still have some

Still fly both

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12-31-2010 12:14 AM  7 years agoPost 6
Gearhead

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Isaac, or they will sell out to Tiger or OS maybe...

Jim
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12-31-2010 12:21 AM  7 years agoPost 7
SamurAchzar

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The Chinese? Maybe the Chinese LiPo manufacturers. I simply can't see how nitro equipment manufacturers are not seeing their share dipping by 10% a year, unless e-stuff brings enough new blood into the hobby which eventually gets a nitro machine or two.

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12-31-2010 01:01 AM  7 years agoPost 8
funkindatrunk

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I have been flying for over two years now. I just got my first nitro and love it. I know alot of people think ele models will take over nitro. As for me I want a few more nitros. The sound of the 600 all over the field is insane. Its sad to see another company bite the dust.

I have learned if you move the sticks the right way you wont crash.

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12-31-2010 02:24 AM  7 years agoPost 9
Anthony.L

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The chinese has also started producing nitro and gas model engines. It's hitting all sectors of the hobby. Think where you spend your money and how it impacts other small companies!

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12-31-2010 02:36 AM  7 years agoPost 10
darkfa8

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we're conditioning ourselves to expect to pay a certain price for things and the Asian market is catering to that expectation. anyone else who doesn't carve out their niche' and cultivate enough customers to pay the bills (which are of course rising) will be closing down.

unfortunately, this is likely going to continue for quite some time.

- Dan Goldstein
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12-31-2010 03:13 AM  7 years agoPost 11
cudaboy_71

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not the first, and definitely not the last. and when all the real companies are gone, who will the Chinese steal their designs from?

maybe the 'chinese knockoffs are good for competition' goons can see what the long term effects of IP theft are.

if it ain't broke, break it.

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12-31-2010 04:10 AM  7 years agoPost 12
TMoore

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I'm surprised they've lasted this long. Webra hasn't had a competitive engine in 3 decades. I used to run the Webra 60's in Schluter's and they were OK but not like OS, the Webra 28's, 32's and 35's were OK with pipes as was the Speed 50's but let's face it, when was the last time that Webra had an engine that anyone just had to have? If they had engines that ran well and had carbs that worked, they would be selling them..........but they don't, so they are bankrupt. Making something in China isn't a guarantee of success either.

TM

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12-31-2010 04:20 AM  7 years agoPost 13
jbjones

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Man, that's sad to hear. I flew Webra engines for years. I hope the best for them. They were finely crafted engines, that's for sure.

-Joey

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12-31-2010 04:55 AM  7 years agoPost 14
Dr.Ben

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Unfortunately, Webra never got it through their heads what the US (an other markets) wanted. The never did release an engine that out of the box and no fiddling would run smoothly, break in easily, and needle and run well on 30% fuel and a Hatori style muffler. I recall the threads on their 91 which ran on for pages and pages and months and months with guys bouncing back and forth needle seetings, shimming, and pipe lengths to get the things to run halfway right. A few experienced modelers could get the product to run, but not the lion's share. Then they persisted in trying to sell a few design abortions such as their gas 91. That was a complete disaster. I realize that the Chinese have placed market pressure on many manufacturers, but the argument is lame at least as it applies to the helicopter engine market. Go to a funfly sometime and see how many engines are native Chinese knock offs. You won't find many if any at all. If Webra had designed and given the marketplace a product that worked easily and well for the general modeling community, they would still be in the game.

Ben Minor

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12-31-2010 05:03 AM  7 years agoPost 15
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I still have their Nitro 91 in my Robbe Cuatro swinging 800mm blades with little effort - still a fantastic engine, and perhaps the strongest 91 I have ever had, and I have had practically all of them.

Their gas 91 was a TOTAL disaster. I still have one of these and it has never worked properly. Gathering dust in my workshop. Whenever I asked Webra for some assistance, their reply was one of "our engine is perfect and you just don't know how to operate it." Arrogant bunch of people - they had no understanding of customer service.

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12-31-2010 05:19 AM  7 years agoPost 16
Santiago P

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Years back their plank pattern engines were actually very good and competitive with OS and YS.

When I started racing, I bought one of their purpose build Webra Q500 engines, and although a little tricky, I had no problem setting it and began kicking the arses of most of the cheating Rossis. Then a few months later came the Nelson Q500, and the history of racing changed forever. I welcomed the change

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12-31-2010 12:14 PM  7 years agoPost 17
sks

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totally agree with Ben.

Webra engines are bloody awful, the Chinese excuse is totally discredible. The quality of the engines themselves was not much to write about either. They never matched the consistency of the YS or the OS engines, and in the end all the fiddling and arguments for it went round in circles trying to cover up what was, basically, a finicky engine at the best of times. The users voted with their feet and couldn't be bothered in the end.

Robbe helicopter division ought to go next, don't think they'll last for much longer. I do hope Robbe does stay around on the electronics side though, since I want an update to the FX40.

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12-31-2010 12:26 PM  7 years agoPost 18
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Webra engines
Webra engines used to be popular in heli's, because they were really good had lots of power and were great on a tuned pipe. Then the complaints started to come in about noise and that ended the tuned pipe popularity in helicopters. O.S. was always noted as being a low powered, but more "dummy proof" engine and still are. THe current Webra and Rossi is a much better engine, as is a Supertiger, and Enya. However, they do not have the powerhouse Marketing behind them, such as Tower Hobbies. Well Supertiger does, but not the others. Enya is also a really good engine for heli's but they also lost popularity. The Heli hobby is really very trendy and people tend to follow the latest and greatest. Chinese engines cannot hold a candle to any of the above.

Whatever happened to the ingenuity and creativeness in the heli community?? It seems to be gone and everyone follows the stream. Boring!

I am very sad for the passing of a great engine builder like Webra. Get ready for more cheap crap. I hope nothing happens to YS and Enya.

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12-31-2010 01:01 PM  7 years agoPost 19
darkfa8

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also agree with Terry and Ben... if you produce sub-par product and have sub-par customer service, they have no one to blame but themselves, NOT the Chinese.

- Dan Goldstein
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12-31-2010 04:53 PM  7 years agoPost 20
Parsifal

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Still, it's a shame to see them go. My first pattern engine was a webra and it was great! There is some truth to the cheapness of mass market product eventually crowding out smaller manufacturers though, and when that happens we will have no one to blame but ourselves.

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