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12-30-2010 04:57 AM  7 years agoPost 1
Michaelm0268

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Do they make a torque tube version/kit for the fury 55?

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12-30-2010 05:14 AM  7 years agoPost 2
dchekas

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No factory conversion exists yet..

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12-30-2010 05:15 AM  7 years agoPost 3
Michaelm0268

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any idea when they are coming out?

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12-30-2010 01:50 PM  7 years agoPost 4
kcordell

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Are you having issues with the belt? The guys that did the testing and current top 3D guys aren't having any issues.

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12-30-2010 02:18 PM  7 years agoPost 5
shlm

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any idea when they are coming out?
I believe that they were considering a TT option as some folks believed it was needed; however, the belt has proven to be very well implemented with both the Fury 55 and Furion 6 (works much better than the Razor) that I believe that this project is on hold.




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12-30-2010 06:13 PM  7 years agoPost 6
fastflyer20

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Have you seen and heard the Fury 55?
f so, then why would you want TT?
It is one of the smoothest drive-trains in the market.

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12-30-2010 06:45 PM  7 years agoPost 7
PBusch

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A lot of guys think they need one or at least think its better and for that reason alone is why MA should make one for it. I guarantee it will increase sales.

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12-31-2010 05:44 AM  7 years agoPost 8
Michaelm0268

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I was just wondering if they were coming out it would definetely increase sales for them.

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12-31-2010 01:53 PM  7 years agoPost 9
kcordell

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Brian from MA monitors RR on a very regular basis. Why don't you send him a PM. Maybe he can give some insight on this.

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12-31-2010 04:36 PM  7 years agoPost 10
pcw

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more parts and more money for an upgrade that makes no difference?

Not needed!

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12-31-2010 06:08 PM  7 years agoPost 11
kcordell

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+1

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12-31-2010 09:11 PM  7 years agoPost 12
MinAirUSA

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more parts and more money for an upgrade that makes no difference?
This pretty much sums it up. When originally designing the Fury 55 a tube drive was tested, but it was determined that it just didn't provide any kind of advantage over the type of belt system we're currently using. When a belt drive system is engineered correctly, they work quite well with very little drag. If a torque tube driven tail on a 50 size model really offered a noticeable improvement in performance, there would be one on the Fury 55 and Furion 6.

The Torque tube drive as an "option" is something that we have considered, but have ultimately decided that it is just not feasible for the Fury 55 and Furion 6 for a few reasons. The biggest factor is that the cost would be substantial.

We realize that there are people who feel that a torque drive is a must for all models. We would politely disagree. I can however assure you that our next "90" size model will have a torque tube drive tail, as with the longer boom of a "90" size model the shortcomings of a belt drive begin to appear.

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12-31-2010 11:30 PM  7 years agoPost 13
Michaelm0268

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I was just wondering because a couple of us were wondering the other day. Thanks for the information.

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01-01-2011 12:23 AM  7 years agoPost 14
Dr.Ben

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With a design like the Fury 55, the TT conversion cost would be steep as Brian noted. First, the front driveline is not set up to use a bevel gear. You would need to drive the t/r of the maingear's OD with the same kind of arrangement that Align or the ENV use. You all know good and well that MA would never go for molded gears in that application like Align uses, so you would have three CNC gears, axles, and bearings (~4 of them) up front. You can't make those gears for $5 each the right way or even twice or three times that, and they can all get stripped in a bad auto that would have done ZERO damage to a belt system. Then you have the TT expense and the added cost for the tail box (assuming they would use the existing case). I know a lot of guys have deep pockets, but would you really care to pay several hundred dollars or more for an upgrade that would add weight to the model and make it fly no better?

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01-01-2011 03:36 AM  7 years agoPost 15
jbjones

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Interesting topic.

As Dr. Ben stated:
would you really care to pay several hundred dollars or more for an upgrade that would add weight to the model and make it fly no better?
Negative. I find the belt drive to be more than adequate. The belt drive on the Fury 55 is just fine. They did a good job with that design.

-Joey

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01-01-2011 08:29 AM  7 years agoPost 16
Michaelm0268

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I was just wondering I have as well heard nothing but good things about the belt drive.

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01-01-2011 04:28 PM  7 years agoPost 17
KevinB

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Is the tailboom on a Fury55 Aluminum or carbon ?

If Aluminum and they are not entertaining a TT version, then I hope a carbon option is made available. Up here in Canada where it's winter half the year, temp changes make keeping belt tension correct a PITA. I've found on my trex 450V2 that using a carbon boom has approx the same expansion coefficient as the belt, therefore the tension stays nice and consistent. With the aluminum boom, the 30C swing going from shop to field will change a nice tight belt to a limp noodle loose enough to skip teeth!
Yes, you can wait for the heli to cool down and then readjust the tension at the field........and then remember to loosen it again before the heli warms up back home.........PITA.

Just saying a carbon boom would be nice. I'm on the fence right now between a JR VibeNEX and a Fury55 for the coming season. Without a carbon boom for the Fury55 for winter flying, I think the Vibe comes out on top since it has the TT which is unaffected by temps.

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01-01-2011 06:29 PM  7 years agoPost 18
kcordell

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Aluminum boom in the kit. Carbon booms have become way to expensive to include in kits. Very difficult to recoup the costs of carbon the way it went up. Plus on the 55 and Furion 6, the booms are a larger OD than previous MA models.

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01-01-2011 07:31 PM  7 years agoPost 19
Michaelm0268

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The carbon boom would look awesome on them though.

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01-02-2011 12:58 AM  7 years agoPost 20
MinAirUSA

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We have been looking at introducing a carbon fiber boom as an option part, but as Kevin mentioned, any high quality carbon boom will be too expensive to be included in the kit.

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