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12-31-2010 05:55 PM  7 years agoPost 41
rchelichop

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That confirms it. You ain't got it.
Then, I am glad I don't have it, because it seems a lot of people spouting 'common sense' left and right are usually succumbing to kneejerk reactions of a situation. Easily explained here as in the classifieds as people hear one side of the story and then immediately jump all over the other guy without first hearing them out. I guess thats 'common sense' at work.
BTW: The kid meant no harm and had no bad motivations with that paring knife found in her lunch box or purse. It was a mistake. Thats common sense.
and again, there is no true proof of any such thing, its WORDS against a indisputable FACT. In a court of law, with the facts and words presented, end of the day, the rule was in place (no weapons allowed on campus) and she had a weapon. How much more 'common sense' can you get than that? Our society has laws as a whole and if you break them, then it is accepted that there are consequences. I believe that is kinda termed 'common sense' eh.

If you are speeding, but you didn't 'mean' to speed, go ahead and tell that to the judge, I'm sure they'll just use 'common sense' and let ya go. lmao.

OJ simpson got off scott free with a Jury, that would mean 'common sense' let him go, you think he was innocent?

I could go on and on with examples, its sooo easy, because quite frankly you are on the losing end of this debate.

Unfortunately, 'common sense' is all to fallible and subject to opinions. Of course I know that one has to take in the whole picture of what is going on, but at the end of the day words usually mean less than the facts presented.

and again, I appreciate you trying to be Mr. Smartie Pants telling me I ain't got no 'common sense', when the term is so subjective. I've lived over 30 years and have done everything from riding motorcycles to flying planes and I'm still here, never been to jail, never asked for government handouts ect ect. I'd say I have a understanding of how to live and survive in this world

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12-31-2010 06:08 PM  7 years agoPost 42
Dennis (RIP)

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In a court of law, with the facts and words presented, end of the day, the rule was in place (no weapons allowed on campus) and she had a weapon. How much more 'common sense' can you get than that? Our society has laws as a whole and if you break them, then it is accepted that there are consequences. I believe that is kinda termed 'common sense' eh.
But, this was NOT a court of law. It was a little girl in a school setting that had no hint of a history of violence in that story rcheli.

Think if that was your daughter that screwed up and got YOUR lunch sack instead with the paring knife in it. How would you react.

You do have a point that some (me) might be forming an opinion of this without knowing all the facts. Maybe so. But, usually in these type of stories, we see or hear some hint of history of violence with the criminal involved. That was not the case here.

It was just a little girl. Defense of that little girl is exactly what I would do in a minute until I learned facts otherwise. I would blame the adult much quicker than the child. Thats just my natural reaction to a story like this and, in my mind, just common sense.

Based on what I know with our extremely inept education system, they most certainly do over react to incidents such as told in that story of that little girl. We read about these type of stories in our education system in this country almost each and every week.

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12-31-2010 06:57 PM  7 years agoPost 43
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fwiw...

Just received a reply to my e-mail to the Superintendent..

He is claiming that the girl in question is enrolled as a student, and is not suspended long term...Reading between the lines, he's unnerved by the pressure, and is backpedaling to save his lib a$$...

I'm curious to see if this goes any farther, and if a lawsuit will be brought....

Bounce this issue off recent posts to this forum about fathers wanting GPS tracking hidden in their kids' cars, and mandatory (forced) blood tests in FL for those opting not to blow into the nice policemans' breathalyzer at a DUI checkpoint...We got trouble, folks..Right here in River City...

BC

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12-31-2010 07:55 PM  7 years agoPost 44
rchelichop

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Think if that was your daughter that screwed up and got YOUR lunch sack instead with the paring knife in it. How would you react.
I wouldn't be too happy with the school but more importantly I wouldn't bee happy about my actions, considering it would be my knife which would mean it was my responsibility to keep track of it. If I left a gun in a bag and my kid picked it up thinking it was his lunch, I would be the one responsible for them getting ahold of it.

The rule at the school was there in place and backed by the law, yet both the father was irresponsible and the daughter was oblivious. Just because they were irresponsible and oblivious doesn't change the fact that it was brought onto school grounds. Again, you can commit a crime without truly knowing it, but the fact still would be that you committed a crime.

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12-31-2010 07:58 PM  7 years agoPost 45
Dennis (RIP)

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Again, you can commit a crime without truly knowing it, but the fact still would be that you committed a crime.
Yeah right.

Please don't forget we are talking about an innocent little girl here.

Not some career a$$hole criminal. You are over reacting, just like the officials at that school.

Geez.

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12-31-2010 09:46 PM  7 years agoPost 46
drdot

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fwiw..

Lessee... Paring knife...

Glock.....

Talk about apples and oranges...

BTW...The Second Amendment prohibits government interference in the keeping and bearing of arms...Anyone wanna start that debate??

BC

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01-01-2011 05:15 AM  7 years agoPost 47
rchelichop

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a gun, a knife, both are weapons, don't try to convolute the facts to meet your ends. If you snuck a knife into a airport and they found it on the plane it wouldn't end pretty. It would be less harsh than if they found a gun, but then again, if they found a gun on this girl in school she'd be in a heck of a lot more trouble than a suspension for the school year.
BTW...The Second Amendment prohibits government interference in the keeping and bearing of arms...Anyone wanna start that debate??
Lessee, no one is infringing on rights to bear arms, but the right to bear arms doesn't say that you can take them everywhere you go, especially if its is a weapons free zone enforced by law.

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01-01-2011 05:18 AM  7 years agoPost 48
Dennis (RIP)

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Lessee, no one is infringing on rights to bear arms, but the right to bear arms doesn't say that you can take them everywhere you go, especially if its is a weapons free zone enforced by law.
Yeah right. Punish the little children and throw the little suckers in jail.

Just a reminder:

We are talking about a little girl here.

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01-01-2011 05:51 AM  7 years agoPost 49
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I think its sad that they would consider a paring knife a weapon. Hell, I can think of 7 ways to kill somebody with a number 2 pencil just off the top of my head.

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01-01-2011 06:36 AM  7 years agoPost 50
RaptorMan23

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I dont understand people, like in this story. She complains that she was suspended for having a knife in her lunchbag but I bet she would complain if she saw someone else with a knife. Same thing with people hating police, they hate it when the police come to their house for a problem THEY caused, but , when they are in trouble....BOY! You better get here ricky tick! Bottom line, most people do not like authority when its directed toward them but if its directed toward someone else its A-OK.
Next, the airline searching bullcrap, ive never heard so much whiny childlike crap in my life. They feel like their freedoms are being taken away when they are being searched and Im sure many refuse. BUT!, when they are on an airplane that gets hijacked you can bet that they think airport screening is one HELL of a good idea!
When I was in middle school, we had a kid that set off a pipebomb in the hallway and it scared the sh*t out of everybody and sure opened some eyes, in high school I cant count how many weopons were found in random searches. Bottom line, dont complain about precautionary actions unless you are ok with the violence that could happen toward you! There have been so many school shootings, mall shootings, stabbings, even friggin shootings inside of hospitals! Everyone should be HAPPY that we have all of these consequences to prevent these types of tragedys. The girl just needs to close her mouth and take what she had coming to her, she had the knife. Who gives a crap why, it doesnt matter

If you only have to bend over once to pick it up it's a good landing.

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01-01-2011 03:46 PM  7 years agoPost 51
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I wouldn't be too happy with the school but more importantly I wouldn't bee happy about my actions, considering it would be my knife which would mean it was my responsibility to keep track of it.
WOW.....all I have to say is WOW.....

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01-01-2011 03:55 PM  7 years agoPost 52
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WOW.....all I have to say is WOW.....
Yup. What a windbag with a near zero thought process.

Futaba.. Always Imitated, Never Duplicated.

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01-01-2011 04:02 PM  7 years agoPost 53
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I hope the school doesn't realize their students are all carrying sharpened sticks. They would all be expelled. Students have been stabbed with pencils before. I suggest fat crayons for everyone.

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01-02-2011 04:33 AM  7 years agoPost 54
drdot

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fwiw..

I fear I'm obsessed with this issue...My searches lead me to The Rutherford Institute...Apparently a non-profit dedicated to fighting abuses such as this...Look at the website...What is astonishing to me is the number of cases they have examined/defended...Many of which make this one look pale.....

John.

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