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12-29-2010 01:41 AM  7 years agoPost 1
petmotel

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Bought a used Srimok from a guy in Moab, Utah by the name of Marc Hayes https://rc.runryder.com/t621097p1/. Seller listed the machine as "perfect condition".

Marc communicated with me extremely well when selling the helicopter. When I recieved the machine I was sorely disappointed to see the rough condition of this fine bird. I sent him a PM that I recieved the package.
Hi Hayes,

Got the heli today. I was not happy with the condition of the machine. There's hardly a machined aluminum part on the entire helicopter that isn't nicked, scratched, gouged, bent, or otherwise flawed. Your claim that the heli was in "perfect condition" was pure BS, you should try and be more honest in the future.

Packaging was good, and the heli arrived in same condition as shipped.
E-mail was read same day, but no response. Upon tearing the helicopter completely down I discovered many other problems, not the least of which was a broken ring land in the YS engine, which of course ruined the ring, and a stripped out header with the Hatori pipe.

Sent this PM which remains unread,
Re: Srimok

Hi Hayes,

Finished tearing down the heli. Lots of things not good here but then I figure you know that.

Stripped & missing bolt and bushing in Hatori pipe header. Did you know the piston has a broken ring land, which of course ruined the ring? Pretty bummed you sold me such a mess.

I would hope you can step up and at least replace the engine piston and ring, and the Hatori header. It's not like you're some irresponsible kid, just think about how you'd feel if the same happened to you. I bought from you in good faith, and now you have my money, and ignore me. Not the way a man behaves.

You're a sponsored pilot, wonder what your sponsers would think of this?

Jay.
Sure hope Marc had a Happy holliday season Here's back at ya bud.

Jay

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12-29-2010 01:48 AM  7 years agoPost 2
Ronald Thomas

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Negative feedback

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12-29-2010 01:54 AM  7 years agoPost 3
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He still has not responded to you?

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12-29-2010 02:03 AM  7 years agoPost 4
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Did that. Must not care, he knew what he was doing when he sold it.
He still has not responded to you?
Nope, that would be the purpose for the thread. The guy may be a crook, but he ain't gonna remain incognito if I have any say.

Jay

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12-29-2010 02:08 AM  7 years agoPost 5
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Did you pay through paypal? File a claim if you have to. He will respond then.

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12-29-2010 02:19 AM  7 years agoPost 6
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Pay pal.
Paypal's not worth a sh-t. I got scammed about a year ago. Paid $700 for a raptor 50 that I never got Filed a claim and was told the users account only had $1 in it. That's what I got back

I try to only buy new now. This form is filled with some pathetic people

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12-29-2010 02:21 AM  7 years agoPost 7
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That is why you always pay with a CC though Paypal. If they don't give you the $$$ back, the CC company will

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12-29-2010 02:25 AM  7 years agoPost 8
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That is why you always pay with a CC though Paypal. If they don't give you the $$$ back, the CC company will
That is the best way to do it.

Looks like he does a bit of business in the classified here and you are right he is not some kid.

Hopefully your negative feedback will prevent someone else from getting screwed.

I hate dishonest people like that.

Thanks, TheWoodCrafter

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12-29-2010 02:27 AM  7 years agoPost 9
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That's too bad. I bought my Rappy used on this forum and it was exactly how he said it would be: Well used. I actually found it to be in better condition than what he eluded to. It was a good transaction.

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12-29-2010 03:17 AM  7 years agoPost 10
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You might want to look into Paypal again.
They changed their policies within the last 2 months.
I do not know all the details, but I know the rules have changed in favor of the purchaser.

Fly with scheduled ground contact !

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12-29-2010 04:05 AM  7 years agoPost 11
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This is the reason why I don't buy anything second hand..

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12-29-2010 04:17 AM  7 years agoPost 12
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Nah, that's not the solution. The best idea is to know your seller well or at least their reputation. Their are plenty of honest sellers here on RR, myself included, with pages and pages of good, positive feedback. You just gotta be careful.

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12-29-2010 04:20 AM  7 years agoPost 13
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petmotel
I do not know either one of you sorry to here about your bad purchase, can you post pictures every thing your stating? if paypal was used you should look in to it what do you have to loose?

yes dear the hobby shop again

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12-29-2010 04:22 AM  7 years agoPost 14
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Also, you can ask for references. Not long ago, I bought a D3 from a seller that I am not familiar with. So, I check for references from other rr members, and it ends up the seller is a super good guy.
Ask Dr. Ben, he knows whom I am talking about.

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12-29-2010 04:36 AM  7 years agoPost 15
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Jay,

I hate to hear that happened to you. The seller does have 3 pages of feedback here so we can still hope he'll do whats right in the end.

I put the fun in dysFUNctional :)
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12-29-2010 04:51 AM  7 years agoPost 16
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Nah, that's not the solution. The best idea is to know your seller well or at least their reputation. Their are plenty of honest sellers here on RR, myself included, with pages and pages of good, positive feedback. You just gotta be careful.
Ben is spot on, don't discount RR classifieds all together. I've sold many items and I can gurantee they were were perfect condition and for very good price. I'm Sure I made a lot of people happy (at least that's what my feedback says).

Same goes the other way, I recently bought (3) Futaba BLS 252 servos for a new Logo project for a VERY good deal. They arrived, better than expected in the original boxes with all the hardware.

Good deals are plenty, use common sense and trust your instincts. If you don't have either, then you are in trouble!

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12-29-2010 05:15 AM  7 years agoPost 17
michael88997

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ive had problems before and it was way after paypal would do anything but even using my checking account the bank reversed the charge and i got my money back... very sad to see people on here with positive feedback go bad

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12-29-2010 11:45 AM  7 years agoPost 18
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12-29-2010 11:51 AM  7 years agoPost 19
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He must be related to LOUINSD the scumbag who got me. Sorry to hear

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12-29-2010 12:03 PM  7 years agoPost 20
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I'm gonna take the other side here for some perspective. You got a RTF heli for over 50% off what it would cost new. With helis of this stature and metal all over, if you actually fly them and use them, they are going to get nicks and scratches here and there from normal use. For him, maybe it was in perfect condition. But one mans perfect condition is another mans junk. That does not necessarily make him a bad guy.

Well, gonna kinda mark this down to bad research before buying. Just the price for what was offered was giving me a flag to take caution. I would have requested better/higher quality pictures before plunking down $1200, otherwise I would have moved on. Why rush to blow your money? If I bought everything on everyones word, then I'd have no money and a bunch of junk lying around. I have bought some bad stuff in the past, but it made me learn, ask more questions and get more detailed. If they are unwilling to provide the information and get better pictures, then just move on.

It's tempting to buy in the classifieds because you can save some $$, but then you have to ask yourself is that money saved worth the risk of a sight unseen purchase of a hobby item? I've bought used before and been just satisfied with the purchase, but the pride of brand spankin' new machine to me is worth way more than some money saved.

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