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12-27-2010 07:38 PM  7 years agoPost 21
McKrackin

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Some have said that futaba may have wanted to keep the costs down but when you look at what these guys have invested in a regulated system. Cost is no longer a factor.
Why regulate?
Slap on a 6.6 volt LiFe battery and be done with it.

I don't know why anyone would want an old heavy nickle battery on an aircraft and I have never considered my radio manufacturer as a battery supplier.

Do one thing and do it well.
The more different products a single company makes,the less attention to detail there will be on each individual product.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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12-27-2010 07:39 PM  7 years agoPost 22
Four Stroker

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Both JR and Futaba packs are assembled quite well. When I buy an aftermarket pack, I take the wrap off, replace the connector, and carefully examine the spot welds. Those orphans don't always do such a good job. Sometimes they completely miss the strap or forget to do the other end. You never get more than what you pay for.

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12-27-2010 08:25 PM  7 years agoPost 23
Rogman88

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I run BEC on everything now. I'm glad they didn't include a 4.8v battery that I'd have had to pay for then throw away. I bought a 7C a couple of years ago for my new 450SEV2. Had futaba thown in a battery then I'd be paying for something I wouldn't use. Heli's and most recently planks, have started coming in so many sizes that including reciever batteries would be a waste of money for many end users. My 8FG was just reciever and transmitter and is perfect for my applications. Futaba would have to carry such a varied battery selection to meet end users needs that it really isn't feasable. Back in the day when .46 sized planks were for the most part the norm, it was ok to include a 4.8v 600mah nicad pack and you met 90% of your end users needs. Now planks/helis are so small and so big that it's better for everyone to go get exactly what they need.

To the argument of getting it aftermarket from futaba. Well you could order from a 3rd party vender just as easy.

High Voltage just works better

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12-27-2010 11:28 PM  7 years agoPost 24
Anthony.L

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Congrats on the making the biggest stink about absolutely nothing!

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12-29-2010 01:31 AM  7 years agoPost 25
twguns

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Congrats on the making the biggest stink about absolutely nothing!
Big +1

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12-29-2010 01:34 AM  7 years agoPost 26
OICU812

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Wow if you feel any Futaba servos have high amp draw etc, please don't run 8717 JR or heck Align 610s, you'll be really in trouble Fact I run Futaba servos on cyclics on all my helis as they draw far less and more so all the BECs in escs out there are happiest with Futaba, I've had zero problems with Futaba products or their service to be honest over the years.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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12-29-2010 01:56 AM  7 years agoPost 27
Zaaaguy72

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+1 812

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12-29-2010 02:11 AM  7 years agoPost 28
Mikerobe

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Amazing how some just don't stay with the post!

The lot I got is not a lot, but I thank God a lot for the lot I got!

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12-29-2010 02:34 AM  7 years agoPost 29
Santiago P

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On post,

Mike,
Although been said, if you go to the online technical data page on servos, it says
clearly
, the only setback to the digital servos is the higher power requirement.

As for the batteries, you may have a point, but the issue for all the radio companies is customizing so many radio gear combinations, and the liability involved.
Funny, the last time I looked into one of the world class FAI Futaba pilots it looked like it had a straight 4 cell nimh or nicad pack in it.

http://www.geocities.jp/beacha99/03f3c.jpg

http://www.geocities.jp/beacha99/04f3c.jpg

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12-29-2010 02:44 AM  7 years agoPost 30
sandtrx

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Futaba, JR, Airtonics etc are in the electronics business, they provide a small low cost battery for convenience. If you want them to provide 40C 3000 Mah Futaba, JR or Airtronics branded Thunder Power made LiPo, then expect to bear the cost. But wait, I beleive that you'd also complain about being expected to pay the extra $ to buy the system and then you'd complain that you'd rather have them just provide the old pile battery that they used to so you don't have to pay the increased cost, and then you'd go buy a zippy for $20.00.

Vibe 50 (V Bar) Protos 500 (Vbar) Trex 700 (Vbar)

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12-29-2010 03:13 AM  7 years agoPost 31
Mikerobe

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Liability is NOT THE ISSUE! If it was, you would secure your interests by making absolutely sure your product was operating with components (batteries) that you approve of.

The lot I got is not a lot, but I thank God a lot for the lot I got!

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12-29-2010 03:20 AM  7 years agoPost 32
Four Stroker

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I fail to understand why you guys don't want Futaba to sell voltage regulators and batteries. You don't have to buy them ! You can continue using the aftermarket crap you so love and cherish.

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12-29-2010 03:26 AM  7 years agoPost 33
Mikerobe

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Cost to Futaba IS NOT THE ISSUE! They can be supplied with these just like any other electronics manufacturer in the world.
How many portable telephones have you purchased without a battery because the company thought it would make their phone too expensive?

The lot I got is not a lot, but I thank God a lot for the lot I got!

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12-29-2010 04:25 AM  7 years agoPost 34
Dr.Ben

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Patience. OEM stuff is coming for those who have to have it: http://www.rc.futaba.co.jp/battereis/index.html#07

Ben Minor

Peak Aircraft/Team Minicopter Team Futaba Team Kontronik USA

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12-29-2010 05:01 AM  7 years agoPost 35
sandtrx

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I fail to understand why you guys don't want Futaba to sell voltage regulators and batteries. You don't have to buy them ! You can continue using the aftermarket crap you so love and cherish.
Even if i was a Futaba guy, I could care less if they did, I would look to Futaba for the TX, RX and Servos. There are alot of battery and regulator choices out there. Don't like Arizona? You have other options (Duralite). Futaba is going to outsource the batteries anyways and brand their name on them. Until Futaba gives Hobbico the boot, I won't own their equipment anyways, Yes I like Futaba Equipment, but I can't stand Hobbico (mainly the service center).

Vibe 50 (V Bar) Protos 500 (Vbar) Trex 700 (Vbar)

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12-29-2010 07:45 AM  7 years agoPost 36
Anthony.L

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This thread is seriously still going? He's a troll, stop feeding him, and let his one die. Nothing you can say will satisfy him.

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12-29-2010 09:50 AM  7 years agoPost 37
human213

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Anthony
Agree with you.

A time waster.

Power, servo choices, even receivers now are a la carte,
and will only become more so.

Kinda like the rc heli magazines, beginner reads all,
nothing for anyone else, thus less than useless.

m

Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted.

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12-29-2010 01:49 PM  7 years agoPost 38
Mikerobe

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If I wanted to let a thread die, I would simply not bother posting to it. Especially if I didn't comprehend what was being said.

The lot I got is not a lot, but I thank God a lot for the lot I got!

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