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12-24-2010 08:06 PM  9 years ago
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wharvick

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Finally got everything right.
I was able to start my 1005 in about 15 pulls this morning. I like to flood it first and then keep pulling through until it finally sputters to life. It is much easier on my pull start and probably moter too. The gyro gain is set at 70% now and no more wag. The tail is rock-solid. It is the smoothest and most responsive heli that I have every owned. Backs up perfectly straight without the tail-lock heading hold. I feel so comfortable flying now that it is as if I have been doing so for years. The thing looks cool, sounds cool, and flys like a dream. Thankyou all for your help and to all a Merry Chrismas

Wayne

If I every buy another large heli, it will be a Gasser They rule!
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12-24-2010 09:52 PM  9 years ago
GREYEAGLE

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When your ready
Start backing down the gain -- you'll find you don't need it . Got both of mine set ridiculously low and saves the work on the tail servo's.

If your pulling 15 time's I - bet it's not flooded but dry . Mine like it wet.

Did you find the mechanical expo post - that's a legend >>??

If your running a 9C I can send you two different set;s of curves'
greyeagle
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12-25-2010 04:46 AM  9 years ago
Dr.Ben

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Keep a VERY close watch of the temperature of your t/r servo, especially with that much gain and on a gas model. Regardless of how smooth the model looks, the gyro is seeing high frequency vibration, and it translates it as a blur of control commands to the t/r servo. Depending on the circumstances, I've seen gas models with no perceptable vibration or tail wag get a t/r servo so hot you almost couldn't touch it.

FWIW,

Ben Minor
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12-25-2010 08:33 AM  9 years ago
wharvick

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Ok Backed the gain back some more
Thanks, You are right I was able to turn the gain down quite a bit more. and still smooth as silk. Now I am pretty sure all will be well with my tail rotor gears and servo.

Wayne
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12-27-2010 12:52 AM  9 years ago
Callum

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Glad you got it sorted and is now flying awesome! Should get some pics of it flying
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12-27-2010 03:27 AM  9 years ago
wharvick

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I will get pics up before New Years.
I will try to get out with a friend this weekend to get some pics to put up of it flying. I am working on another Concept 30 right now to add to my fleet. I am trying to get as much flying time as possible including minor aerobatics Loops roll, etc. with my less expensive machines. It had been over 15 years since I last flew heli's before I started this summer again. I now have two Concept 30's w/ metal upgrades, one with an os .32 and the other with a Thunder Tiger .39, a Nexus w/ os .32 metal upgrades, a Vario Skyfox w/ Evolution canopy and Rossi .67, and the 1005 gasser. They are all flying except for my newest. Anyway this weekend, if the weather is good, I will be test flying my newest, and I will get pics of my Gasser flying to post.

Thanks again for all the help. I wish you were all here to fly with me. I only have one heli friend who I sometimes fly with since my club is mostly fixed wing enthusiests.

Wayne
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12-27-2010 03:47 AM  9 years ago
winginit69

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wayne did you get new blades for the 1005?

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12-28-2010 06:45 PM  9 years ago
wharvick

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I bought some 713mm blades off RR but they have been slow to ship
I am waiting for them. They might come by next weekend. But I think the guy told me that they shipped yesterday so I don't know. I am hopeing
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12-30-2010 05:52 AM  9 years ago
wharvick

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Bought new blades
I bought a pair of Radix 710 Curtis Youngblood Blades today so I will try this weekend.
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12-30-2010 07:57 PM  9 years ago
ddavison

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Radix 710s are a good choice. Been using them for couple of years on both the Spectra and Stratus. DaveDaveDavison,GasGob,WhiplashGas,Spectra,JRXG11MV,12X
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12-30-2010 08:50 PM  9 years ago
wharvick

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Main Mast Bent
I was too embarrassed to say anything last week but I from 1 foot hover had a blade strike. Hence my eagerness to get new blades. But having done the repairs and test flown again today, I discovered that I bent the main shaft. I had a bit of fun tracking one down.
MA 0614 is the new part no. I bought 2 when I found them and they will be here Monday. Interestingly enough, Helipros web site suggests that they have a substitute (a Fury Shaft) but I found out that it is not really a substitute because it is not hardened for the auto hub and would bind up if used. Anyway try National Hobby Warehouse for MA parts if you cant find elsewhere. They were great!

Don't ask me what happend. I dont want to get into it. Very embarrasing. Ha Ha Ha. Everything is tip top now except for a 1mm runout in the main shaft. I will be back in the air next week.

Wayne
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01-11-2011 05:13 AM  9 years ago
alfred

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Hi Wayne

Just a bit of confusion.
The 1005 kit did not support 710mm blades due to the length of the boom.
I think the best you could go to was 670mm.
So unless you upgraded your boom/drive shaft to the longer Fury version, you might be in trouble with those blades.
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01-11-2011 03:21 PM  9 years ago
winginit69

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i am running 710`s with stock 31.5 boom and is fine.
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01-11-2011 06:23 PM  9 years ago
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My 2 cents.....

In my experience the 710's with the stock length 105 tail blades will hit one another under the right circumstances. I did it twice before I believed what my friends were telling me. If you continue with the 31.5" boom, then 700's would be the max with 95-100 tail blades. The other option is to keep the 710's and the 105's and go to a Fury 33" boom.

Also, the 866-15 main shaft is a substitute for the 614. The 866-15 is hardened differently, but I have been running them in lieu of the 614 without problem. A runout of 1.0 mm on the main shaft is going cause something to shake. If you hit hard enough to break composite main blades, you are almost always going to bend the main shaft and the feathering spindle.
The older I get, the fewer things seem worth waiting in line for.
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01-12-2011 09:00 AM  9 years ago
wharvick

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Update to my 1005's condition
I haven't modified it but the previous owner may have. The length looks as if the blades could not contact eachother. I will measure tomorrow though and make sure the boom is long enough. I replaced the main shaft and the feathering shaft. The main wasn't bent but I replaced it anyway. The feathering shaft was bent. It flew fine last weekend. But I broke another pull start. trying to start with a friend holding transmitter. I think he had some throttle. It kicked back. Anyway. I tried re-adjusting carb. I have read everyones post. Now I cant get it started again. I am about ready to pull the engine and replace. I just dont have the patience anymore. I have been flying my other helicopters instead. They start. If anyone in the Seattle Area reads this and wants to give it a shot. call me (415)314-0606. Otherwise its gonna sit for a while.
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01-15-2011 07:04 AM  9 years ago
wharvick

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Engine startable now.
I can start the thing now. So this weekend I will go fly again weather permitting. It turns out that the throttle was not closing completely with the trim up the carb was too open. Now I will work on the fine tuning. Yip Yip happy happy boing boing.

Wayne
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01-26-2011 09:02 AM  9 years ago
wharvick

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Stripped Main Gear
I am going to have to look at this thing this weekend. For some reason, the bevel gear stripped. Not the part that I hear normally strips, but the drive teeth (all 60) Must be either some damage to the cluch shaft or I had the mesh all screwed up. Never seen that before. Hmmm
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