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12-23-2010 08:21 AM  9 years ago
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JJ-TREX450

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which one is the best Regulator Setup?
Which one seems to be the best Regulator in the market:

1. Arizona
2. Gryphon Extreme-Heli Voltage Regulator
3. Duralite Regulator
4. Align 2 in 1
5. Reactor X2

I've used the Arizon,Align and Duralite. I don't like the align, but rest of the two preform excellent.

What do you guys think about the Gryphon?
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12-23-2010 12:51 PM  9 years ago
jsenicka

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6. None. Use A123Jim Senicka
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12-23-2010 01:38 PM  9 years ago
kcordell

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Perfect Regulator.

http://www.perfectregulators.com/in...7&product_id=51
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12-23-2010 02:45 PM  9 years ago
Ace Dude

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The Arizona and the Reactor X2 are the only ones I trust.  
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12-23-2010 03:50 PM  9 years ago
DougV

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6. None. Use A123
+1

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12-23-2010 05:45 PM  9 years ago
Dr.Ben

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1. None

2. Any Fromeco product. A have hundreds and hundreds of flights on mine.

3. Western Robotics high current BEC if you'd like a switching reg.

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12-23-2010 07:03 PM  9 years ago
darkfa8

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- make sure your servos can handle 6-6.8vdc
- run a LiFEPO4 2s receiver pack, no switch, just plug in and fly.

simple, lightweight, cheap, reliable, easy.
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12-23-2010 11:03 PM  9 years ago
ZAC ATTACK

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To switch over to an un-regulated system cost money.Lots of RC guys are using the A123/LiFe chemistry,un-regulated package in their Helis.Servos must have a max.volt capacity of 6.6v.Servos that have specs like that are not cheap,you then need a charger that can do LiFe chemistry(more-money).I dont know if you can measure the capacity of the battery in the A123 system(more money???)?If your on a budget,like most of us are,the un-regulated system is not the way to go.Fromeco,Scott GrayRC and Perfect are all companies that make premium electronics/batteries/regulators that have been proven by many members in here.You can get feedback and also go into the classified section and put together a real nice regulated system cheap!!MAAC#77677 Medicated daily for your protection
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12-24-2010 12:40 AM  9 years ago
marc8090

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I've had nothing but success with the Arizona in the past, and the Perfect regulator presently.
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12-24-2010 01:25 AM  9 years ago
Ace Dude

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Unfortunately, Futaba does recommend 2s LiFePO4 without a regulator.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_9.../tm.htm#9478498
  
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12-24-2010 02:27 AM  9 years ago
jsenicka

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Zac Attack,
I have to disagree.

Servos are rated at 4.8v or 6.0v (or HV).
4.8 = 4 cell NiCd, and 6.0v = 5 cell NiCd.
A 5 cell NiCd comes off the charger a touch over 7 volts, and discharges in the high 6v range for most of the pack.
The beauty of A123 is they exactly mimic a 5 cell NiCd pack.
So if your servos say 6v, they are perfect on A123.
All you need is batteries and a charger.
Jim Senicka
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12-24-2010 03:18 AM  9 years ago
DougV

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Unfortunately, Futaba does recommend 2s LiFePO4 without a regulator.
Ace, please check post #18 from Bill Baxter.

https://rc.runryder.com/t613644p1/

Doug.
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12-24-2010 01:33 PM  9 years ago
darkfa8

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for liability reasons, Futaba is not going to recommend using any chemistry batteries that don't fall in line with their by-the-book texts.

In reality and practice, so long as your servo is rated for 6vdc, you can use A123/LiFEPO4 batteries and many people have been doing so for quite a while with no issues.

Bobby Watts has been "over-volting" his BLS servos for a LONG time.

If you're the type of person that wants to do things by the manufacturer's rules, there is nothing wrong with that. Just wait for Futaba to release their own "HV" power system.
- Dan Goldstein
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12-25-2010 02:16 AM  9 years ago
Ace Dude

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Ace, please check post #18 from Bill Baxter.
I checked. It does appear Futaba has changed their position on this. Thanks for the update.
  
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12-27-2010 03:36 AM  9 years ago
Ace Dude

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Ace, please check post #18 from Bill Baxter.
Doug, Check page 87 of the January 2011 issue of Model Aviation. Futaba is still saying LiFe should not be used with their system.
  
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12-27-2010 03:48 AM  9 years ago
Gehrbox

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Don't need a regulator. Use a LiFe battery instead.
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12-27-2010 02:20 PM  9 years ago
Flying Brian

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What is the advantage of using the 123Life batteries(a non-regulated system) over regulating your set up with a Duralite or Scotty Grey rugulator? I does seem like a much less complex set up, with less to go wrong, in my opinion.

Is it as simple as being a weight factor?
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12-27-2010 07:24 PM  9 years ago
ZAC ATTACK

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This is new battery chemistry being introduced to RC.I've spoken to some smart Pilots in here and you need high-end servos that can handle the voltage,that means money.If your a novice in this hobby then the unregulated system is not for you.You cannot measure voltage in this battery and must rely on math and Mah going in/out of the battery.It's probably a great system for saving weight and streamlining but,im sitting back to see how the 6v rated servos are holding up to this battery chemistry.I need dependable facts,tried and true over time before I switch over to this system.Here's a video on charging the A123 packs.Used with the wrong charger,you can really mess things up,like I mentioned in other threads,a good charger is needed and prior expierence in charging RX packs is recommended.

http://www.screencast.com/users/Fro...23-6de2f5ac75b4
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12-27-2010 11:08 PM  9 years ago
Gehrbox

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This is new battery chemistry being introduced to RC.
A123 batteries have been around the rc industry for years.
If your a novice in this hobby then the unregulated system is not for you.
If somebody is a novice in rc helicopters there are a lot more complicated things in the setup then picking components that are within the proper voltage range and plugging in a battery. Wouldn't the simplest system be NiCd or NiMh packs that can be tickle charged safely and don't require a regulator?
You cannot measure voltage in this battery and must rely on math and Mah going in/out of the battery.
You can measure the voltage, but it drops off quickly at the end of a pack as compared to a LiPo so it is not a good means to determine flights left in a pack. It's not complicated to fly a few flights to determine how many mah you use per flight to determine how many flights can be gotten out of a pack.
im sitting back to see how the 6v rated servos are holding up to this battery chemistry.I need dependable facts,tried and true over time before I switch over to this system.
6v systems have been around for years and a 5 cell NiMh pack used with these systems prior to the arrival of A123 put out more voltage then a LIFe or A123 battery does fresh off of a charger (7.4 for NIMh vs 7.2 for LiFe)
Here's a video on charging the A123 packs.Used with the wrong charger,you can really mess things up,like I mentioned in other threads,a good charger is needed and prior expierence in charging RX packs is recommended.
A123 and LiFe batteries are safer to charge then LIPO batteries. They do not require a LiPo sack or careful observation during the charge in event they fail and catch fire like LiPos. They rarely have to be balanced and can be discharged all the way down to their minimum voltage repeatedly without damage. A proper charger is also required to charge a LiPo which is commonly used with a regulator and neither battery is any more difficult to charge then the other. As far as the correct charge method being needed, this also goes for LiPos.
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12-27-2010 11:22 PM  9 years ago
ZAC ATTACK

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You just hang-out and cut-up peoples threads? Everything in those statements are meant to help new guys out.If you got contructive criticism to be looked at just start another thread.No-boady in my Heli-club for the last 7 years have used this kind of battery and now people are going back to an unregulated system with more consistent voltage then ever.Maybe you will find something wrong with what I just wrote aswell??? You really are a Gehrbox!MAAC#77677 Medicated daily for your protection
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