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01-02-2011 10:29 PM  7 years agoPost 41
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Have you ever wounder why the US is The Global Police????
It isn't, some republicans made that up.
The US protects its interests internationally the same as the British and the Dutch did and that's about it.
You wont see the Global Police stopping the murderous rampages of places like Dem Republic of Congo cause it aint in their intertest to do so.
And no-one expects it of them, so they are not policiing anything but their intertest like any other country does.
Just they have more than most.

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01-02-2011 10:39 PM  7 years agoPost 42
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You are right
The US protects its interests internationally
Money and oil, why should they care about the congo? look a little closer at the mid east, two things in that region we care about. We get our oil and we supply Stopping power for the saudis, the oil and US currency go Hand in Hand.

US currency makes a huge part of GDP

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01-02-2011 10:53 PM  7 years agoPost 43
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Money and oil, why should they care about the congo? look a little closer at the mid east, two things in that region we care about. We get our oil and we supply Stopping power for the saudis, the oil and US currency go Hand in Hand
A few points about your post:

1) Nobody GETS anything out of the Saudis. Its rather simple. They have a product. The rest of the world purchases it. Its a business relationship. Pure and simple. They do very, very well with that.

2) We don't purchase the lions share of our oil imports from the Saudis. We purchase the lions share of our oil from Canada.

3) As far as the Congo, thats a very sad case. Whatever funds we have sent them gets gobbled up via corruption very quickly. Corruption there is far worse there than in Mexico. Their leaders are not interested in bettering their own people. Only themselves. Its a cultural thing there that has been going on for many, many years.

4) In addition, the Congo has never attacked us or anyone else. Most likely never will. Their leaders there are smarter than to attempt that and upset their little candy cart for themselves. There is little to nothing that can be done down there for those people, much the same as in Haiti. We, or anyone else can only do the "Feel Good" thing once in a while and send them some money from time to time. A sad case indeed.

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01-02-2011 11:41 PM  7 years agoPost 44
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petrodollar
Most oil sales throughout the world are denominated in United States dollars (USD).[1] According to proponents of the petrodollar warfare hypothesis, because most countries rely on oil imports, they are forced to maintain large stockpiles of dollars in order to continue imports. This creates a consistent demand for USDs and upwards pressure on the USD's value, regardless of economic conditions in the United States. This in turn allegedly allows the US government to gain revenues through seignorage and by issuing bonds at lower interest rates than they otherwise would be able to. As a result the U.S. government can run higher budget deficits at a more sustainable level than can most other countries. A stronger USD also means that goods imported into the United States are relatively cheap.

Another component of the hypothesis is that the price of oil is more stable in the U.S. than anywhere else, since importers do not need to worry about exchange rate fluctuations. Since the U.S. imports a great deal of oil, its markets are heavily reliant on oil and its derivative products (jet fuel, diesel fuel, gasoline, etc.) for their energy needs. The price of oil can be an important political factor; American administrations are quite sensitive to the price of oil.

Political enemies of the United States therefore have some interest in seeing oil denominated in euros or other currencies. The EU could also theoretically accrue the same benefits if the euro replaced the dollar. However, the European economy could also be seriously damaged if the euro were to appreciate significantly against the dollar or other world currencies, particularly its exports which would become relatively more expensive for the rest of the world. The same dynamic can apply to the dollar and the US economy, as well.
Look how the US currency used, you dont think we benifit in the oil exchange in the mid east??? Let them go to the euros. Lets see what happens to our little greenbacks

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01-02-2011 11:45 PM  7 years agoPost 45
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Look how the US currency used, you dont think we benifit in the oil exchange in the mid east??? Let them go to the euros. Lets see what happens to our little greenbacks
Possibly true Rogue.

There are those outside our country that may wish to take advantage of a crisis as well the ones that have done so within our country.

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01-02-2011 11:47 PM  7 years agoPost 46
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You are right about the number one importer the Seconds says mexico, but if u sum the mid east it would be second.

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01-02-2011 11:51 PM  7 years agoPost 47
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Dennis.

To be completely honest this #$%^ is scarry stuff. Look up the "USD backing" on youtube or google it.

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01-03-2011 12:22 AM  7 years agoPost 48
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it's hardcore and very few 'get it'.

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01-03-2011 12:30 AM  7 years agoPost 49
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To be completely honest this #$%^ is scarry stuff. Look up the "USD backing" on youtube or google it.
Yeah.

The next couple of years is going to be interesting to say the least.

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01-03-2011 12:32 AM  7 years agoPost 50
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wait til people start freaking out in 2012.

you don't think 'they' won't use that? never let a 'crisis' go to waste.

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01-03-2011 01:04 PM  7 years agoPost 51
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Way wait till 2012 might as well start today.
Mike

"When Inverted down is up and up is expensive"

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01-03-2011 01:23 PM  7 years agoPost 52
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But you see, Capitalism is the peoples money that is being gobbled up by local state & federal government to be used for Socialistic purposes of "spreading the wealth"
What a crock of crap !

Its estimated that anywhere between 70 to 80 percent of every federal tax dollar is spent on some form of national security or defense spending. The true number will never be known by you or me because the majority of the NSA budget is classified.

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01-03-2011 04:05 PM  7 years agoPost 53
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Its estimated that anywhere between 70 to 80 percent of every federal tax dollar is spent on some form of national security or defense spending. The true number will never be known by you or me because the majority of the NSA budget is classified.

The majority of tax dollars is spent on entitlements. Social Security & MediCare/MediCaid are the biggest. Defense is small as compared to others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United..._federal_budget

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01-03-2011 04:13 PM  7 years agoPost 54
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The majority of tax dollars is spent on entitlements. Social Security & MediCare/MediCaid are the biggest. Defense is small as compared to others
hey you interested in a bridge ?

You're joking right? The naivety just make me laugh sometimes.
It's pretty much common knowledge the official accounting doesn't include any classified budgetary items. After all its kind of hard to hide covert ops when its listed in the official budget.
For example its very well known that the vast majority of the NSA budget is highly classified and has never been in the official accounting. Only non classified NSA spending is publicly accounted for. And thats just one agency. How much do you think it costs to record and analyze every single phone call and email placed or sent everyday in the United States.

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01-03-2011 04:37 PM  7 years agoPost 55
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You're joking right? The naivety just make me laugh sometimes.
It's pretty much common knowledge the official accounting doesn't include any classified budgetary items. After all its kind of hard to hide covert ops when its listed in the official budget.
Think what you like blazen. But, within the military budget in any chart you find out there, they can show a total of the military budget without breaking down that budget within the military spending. In other words, covert ops would be buried in part of the military spending total.

Besides, if what you say is true, and its all classified secret, how did you find any evidence at all to back up what you claim?

Just an assumption?

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01-03-2011 04:55 PM  7 years agoPost 56
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Instead of believing everything read on the Internet or heard on AM radio maybe some people should try picking up a book or two. Several good books have been written by former employees and experts who have spent their lives researching this subject. Of course I'm sure the truth really doesn't matter as long as ignoring it can be used to propagate a political agenda.
But, within the military budget in any chart you find out there, they can show a total of the military budget without breaking down that budget within the military spending.
Yeah that doesn't work so good when you're actually trying to conceal what the total expenditures are. After all it doesn't take an Einstein to figure out exactly why we wouldn't want our enemies to know how much we actually spend on defense and security. The fact that the NSA employees well over 30,000 of the worlds top mathematician doesn't tell you something now does it.

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01-03-2011 05:01 PM  7 years agoPost 57
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Yeah that doesn't work so good when you're actually trying to conceal what the total expenditures are. After all it doesn't take an Einstein to figure out exactly why we wouldn't want our enemies to know how much we actually spend on defense and security.
Of course. Thats why its classified secret.

Classified secret is why you cannot show any evidence at all of your claims. Your claim is an assumption. Thats based on who knows what. Ideology?

Please don't misunderstand, I am not against our government and its spending. But, rather I am against the loons running it and over spending our money.

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01-03-2011 05:07 PM  7 years agoPost 58
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I am against the loons running it and over spending our money.
Yup I agree, the previous 8 years of lunacy and massive overspending combined with financial deregulation that took a budget surplus and turned into a massive budget deficient was a historic mistake that ended up plunging this country into a massive financial crises. Of course I take some blame for that as well as I voted for that moron myself (once)

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