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12-29-2010 01:02 AM  7 years agoPost 1701
Blades345

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No need to keep disrespecting people because your feelings are hurt,you make yourself look like what you call people.But you are states away so feel free to act your age I guess.
Wow, one moment you seem ok,, then the next your a complete horses backside. Take a look in the mirror hypocrite! I believe someone might be a little bipolar. LonR, I'm looking in your direction! You started the disrespecting by assuming my flying isn't that great. So please, keep on making your assumptions about people and see how far that gets you in life.

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12-29-2010 01:05 AM  7 years agoPost 1702
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12-29-2010 01:07 AM  7 years agoPost 1703
OICU812

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Visa flyer funy thug pic btw lol.

And..to your comments last on e stuff.

Hey its all good, I myself learned the hard way, I can admidt I certainly in past had killed or shortened life on lipos to just not really paying attention and knowing the important parts. I would say it can't be argued that upfront of electrics if you are serious and shooting for long run and also considering large electrics the costs can be abit high. However those costs have and will continue to come down as well. We can all agree I feel, chargers, power supply options and costs all have come down quite substantially actually.

Getting the good stuff up front makes a huge difference in your electric pleasure. For those who do wait say hlaf hour to hours for packs to charge, I can understand why that would be frustrating, that would be an easy choice to nitro for me to. For those that only have a few packs that also may be in those waiting situations fine, I see that to.

However spend the extra bucks and that really changes your experience in the E world.

I go back even a year and the advances are amazing, and they'll get better for sure, in all aspects. For me once having the decent equipment up front and as said for a machine 4-5 packs that are decent my costs per flight are cheaper then nitro and I myself have done my math to compare. Where I find my largest advantage for me, is my personal time I have to give to my hobby. This varies for some and their situation understandably, I just do not have a ton of tune, repair time to deal with so electric for certain works for me. It is always hard once you are setup in one side to go and purchase the other side, I understand this, it can't happen overnight and we are all impatient so we buy what we usually can get our hands on at that exact monment. But to be fair, understand and acknowledge the options out there, and what they can or could provide to your pleasure factor on that side of the fence.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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12-29-2010 01:10 AM  7 years agoPost 1704
rexxigpilot

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I read an article recently that mentioned LiPo's could be left at full charge for up to a month with no damage. I recall the storage temp had to be cool/cold, but above freezing.

Anyway, I'm about to find out. I charged all my packs the last time I came back from flying. I have not been able to fly for the past 3.5 weeks and I won't get to fly until the weekend. I hope that article was right.

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12-29-2010 01:13 AM  7 years agoPost 1705
OICU812

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That would be interesting to see source, I was told what I've practiced directly from directors in TP and Hyperion so I took that under rule. However always wanting and willing to hear the research for sure, maybe I have been far to on the safe side, not sure. Either way it has treated me well in respect to cycle life on my packs.

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12-29-2010 01:18 AM  7 years agoPost 1706
Blades345

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Visa Flyer, I hope you aren't implying I am talking crap on here. The fact that LonR feels he is so great is pathetic! Making assumptions is the worst thing someone can do when that person has no idea what they are talking about. As for the picture, I think its funny!

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12-29-2010 01:27 AM  7 years agoPost 1707
YuNoHavinStock!

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I think the article about storing lipos at full charge was in the last rchelimag, I'm not sure though, I can't find the magazine.

@blades345, I'm pretty sure calling someone a "horses backside" and "bipolar" is considered talking crap in most states. Maybe not Florida, I don't know.

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12-29-2010 01:27 AM  7 years agoPost 1708
LonR

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OICU812
Other: 50-60 cycles yes I seen that as well a year + ago
Thats about what I got out of both of my Turnigys and they were taken care of just like you posted but I haven't came close to the 80% rule.Im not saying the packs are dead but for my flying,there close.Just not as much power like they had 15 or so cycles ago.Right now I noticed a good power drop when beating on it.I really don't beat on them as much now.If beat on the heli like I did 20 cycles ago,it seems like the packs drain fast because its hard to do anything that keeps a load on the heli and I have to land before me timer gos off.When I charge the packs,im only putting around 1500mAh back in.But if I don't fly it hard,I can fly until the timer gos off and put back around 1900mAh back in.I talked to a few electric flyers and buddys that fly electric,they said the packs internal resistance is too high and the only way around this is to not fly as hard,buy new ones and be ready to replace them in 50 or so flights or buy better quality packs that will last longer.
Can I still fly them,sure but its not fun.When I told you my buddy replaces his every 50 flights or so on his 600E 12 sell setup,I wasn't BSing and you were right about the batterys.The Turnigys just don't hold up and I/him needs better batterys.I know its not the cold because one of my buddys is flying the Hyperions in the same weather with no change in power,im pretty sure he said he has alot more than 50 cycles on them.Hes also trying the new Voltz with 30+ cycles so far,them are more in my price range so im waiting to see what he thinks after 60-70 cycles.If I can get close to 100 cycles for $15 bucks more im doing it but the Turnigys can't take a beating past 50 cycles..

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12-29-2010 01:28 AM  7 years agoPost 1709
Rogman88

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The pointless bickering is getting old. What's the next debate...flybar of flybarless?
Nah, this is why we come to this thread. Where else can you get the Jerry Springer show of helis? Plus we haven't made it to 100 pages yet.

High Voltage just works better

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12-29-2010 01:30 AM  7 years agoPost 1710
philip 01

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the e-thug picture is great.

got a bunch of them on here.

it is amazing what people are willing to say on the web that they would never say in person. would become very uncomfortable.

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12-29-2010 01:34 AM  7 years agoPost 1711
Blades345

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@blades345, I'm pretty sure calling someone a "horses backside" and "bipolar" is considered talking crap in most states. Maybe not Florida, I don't know.
I'm not talking crap, I'm stating the facts. Since this didn't involve you, I see no reason for you to step in, but I guess you feel the need to talk crap in your own way as well with the picture.

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12-29-2010 01:37 AM  7 years agoPost 1712
Blades345

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it is amazing what people are willing to say on the web that they would never say in person. would become very uncomfortable.
Actually, I have no issues telling people in person what I think. In my job, I get to deal with A$$HOLES all day long, so I am used to it and get to deal with it in my own special way. My job can be very pleasing when people act tough.

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12-29-2010 01:41 AM  7 years agoPost 1713
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a little different if they are incarcerated.

and you reap what you sow.

make our 'bed', so to speak.

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12-29-2010 01:41 AM  7 years agoPost 1714
YuNoHavinStock!

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It's a great way to kill some time while it's rainy and dark outside.
Did I mention gas is better than nitro and electric?

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12-29-2010 01:43 AM  7 years agoPost 1715
LonR

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Blades345
Visa Flyer, I hope you aren't implying I am talking crap on here. The fact that LonR feels he is so great is pathetic! Making assumptions is the worst thing someone can do when that person has no idea what they are talking about. As for the picture, I think its funny!
Dude,you need to calm down.Im not acting like im so great,just giving facts for me and my experience and your whining about it.Unlike you,im not sitting here name calling people acting like a know it all internet 3D pro trying to tell someone how their equipment should last.As for assumptions and no ideal what im talking about,are you kidding.The only thing people see from you is a board flyer.Heck,anyone can be a 3D master and have equipment last forever on the net ..

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12-29-2010 01:44 AM  7 years agoPost 1716
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What I'm amazed at, is this thread has reached beyond the original electric vs nitro thread. I do believe this one will reach 100 pages.
Question for everyone on here that flies electric. Do you guys mark your batteries so you know how many cycles you get on them?

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12-29-2010 01:46 AM  7 years agoPost 1717
philip 01

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yes.

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12-29-2010 01:46 AM  7 years agoPost 1718
Ronald Thomas

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I do

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12-29-2010 01:51 AM  7 years agoPost 1719
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Dude,you need to calm down.Im not acting like im so great,just giving facts for me and my experience and your whining about it.Unlike you,im not sitting here name calling people acting like a know it all internet 3D pro trying to tell someone how their equipment should last.As for assumptions and no ideal what im talking about,are you kidding.The only thing people see from you is a board flyer.Heck,anyone can be a 3D master and have equipment last forever
Thanks for the advice bud, but I'm actually very calm. When did I say I was a know it all 3D pro??? All I said is that if you take care of your batteries right you will get way more than 50 to 60 cycles on them. The generalization that people get 50 to 60 cycles on average is a load of you know what. Maybe you mistreat your batteries, I don't know, but people I talk to and know get way more than 50 to 60.

Again, I'm not going to buy a camera just to video so I can post and show you I can fly,, that is juvenile in my opinion. When I do finally get a camera that videos, I will post some, but not to show people like you.

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12-29-2010 01:53 AM  7 years agoPost 1720
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I have another perspective to add to the mix. If I had 4 packs so I could do back to back flights and each pack lasted 100 flights, that would be 400 flights. Unfortunately, I never get close to that many flights in a season. Just don't get the time unfortunately. And, Lipos deteriorate with age starting the moment they are manufactured...not only from use (hard to find data on the rate of deteriation but it is a well known phenonemon). It could be how I do or don't take care of them I do realize, but so far, my packs are usually shot by the next flying season regardless how much I use them.
Now, add multiple helis that don't share the same packs. I try to make them share packs but sometimes that constrains one heli to the performance setup of another and has not worked out for me. At the end of the day, I probably don't get 30 flights per pack. Some packs that were for a heli that fell out of favor for a while have probably had as few as 10.

Now please don't take it that I'm suggesting most people will get that few flights out of a pack...I'm not. And don't try to teach me how to do better. I'm OK with it...no desire to improve. It does not make me dislike electric and is not my primary reason to like nitro.

Point is not everyone may be in the same situation. If you fly many hunderds of flights on one pack size in a season, then I can easilly see electric being the way to go. In fact, spend top dollar for those packs.
But, if you fly 50 flights in a season, don't expect to have the same cost per flight.

And, like Mike said...best option of all is to have both.

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