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05-15-2011 05:29 PM  7 years agoPost 4461
turboomni

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My only caution for anyone considering a gasser is high vibration levels. Parts are always coming loose and/or falling off. Then there is that gas smell. Must be kept outdoors, or use white gas/Coleman fuel to prevent gaging on the fumes while storing and transporting.
If something is not setup or running correctly then yes vibrations can and will loosen parts and potentially tear the ship apart in a worse case scenario. But if everything is balanced and running well as it should be then there are no problems. If parts are always coming loose then there is something wrong.
Coleman Camper fuel is the choice for guys that don't like the smell.
I find though if you empty the tank and purge the carb of fuel you can store them and work on them in your basement with no gas smell problems.
flying with a well set up E, esp 700 size, is so intense, I don't need more than 5-5.5 mins. And if I was just cruising around, I'd get boarded if the flight was long anyway.
Well there you have it ..It is what you want from your heli. I can understand that you like the intense rush of the massive power of your E and that the 5 minute flight time is more than enough.
I like a more relaxed approach and for me 15 to 20 minutes minimum flight time seems to fly by.
All types of helis seem to satisfy the preference of the individual.
I can understand all your points of view.

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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05-15-2011 07:30 PM  7 years agoPost 4462
BobOD

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Actually, shear power is pretty important to me. It may not seem so sometimes as I tend to spend less time on easier things. (STIR)

But, I do like exploring a wide range of things. Even sheer power will bore me after a while for example.

Thus, now I got the Nitro for sheer power, another nitro under construction for good power and duration combined, and electric for convienence.

So, a gasser for ultimate duration is the next logical step. I would enjoy working to minimize vibes and can certainly build a heli that's not going to fall apart.

Team POP Secret

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05-16-2011 01:15 AM  7 years agoPost 4463
CX1

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How many e-guys does it take to build a gasser ?

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05-16-2011 01:42 AM  7 years agoPost 4464
heli-cuzz

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Nitro NOBAR90

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05-16-2011 02:05 AM  7 years agoPost 4465
BobOD

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How many e-guys does it take to build a gasser ?
Hey, I'm an e-guy. Oh yeah...you mean an e only guy. I don't think any number could do it actually. Then they wouldn't be an e only guy. Kind of an oxymoron. No pun intended.

I spent some time running 2000RPM today. I was actually shocked that I got a full 8 minutes. Being geared for 2450, I expected it wasn't going to run well at all at 2000. It wasn't perfect actually. If I didn't keep on it, it would start to run poor. Seems like the motor would cool off too much. If I kept on it, it was smooth and powerful. It only got weird when I did something that sustained low power for several seconds. It could be the extra needle I'm not quite used to. My next step will be to activate the mixture control. That should make it even better. Shoot, imagine if I get another minute out of it.

Anyway, now I'm starting to wonder if I even need this other 600 N? I might just be looking for another YS91.

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05-16-2011 04:29 AM  7 years agoPost 4466
GMPCOBRA

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nitro for me in all my helis love the smell of nitro in the morning lol

WHAT DO YOU MEAN ITS NOT SET UP FOR THAT, OH THATS WHAT YOU MEAN

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05-16-2011 04:31 AM  7 years agoPost 4467
Rogman88

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Cuzz do you have a gyro stabilizer on that thing yet?

High Voltage just works better

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05-16-2011 05:09 AM  7 years agoPost 4468
rilopez825

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Nitro for me. I like when the motor is off the motor is off. now granted lack of turning off your heli is stupid when your not flying it. ok your all wondering what I am talking about.

We have a guy that flies a really nice Electric Scale. Now Scale is not my thing and neither is Electric. I don't like baby sittin batteries. I have enough with my twins.

ok. today's scary moment at the field. That scale 600 got a new radio setup, and the owner was showing us thye new radio. he just finished flying and set his bird aside near the pit (about 25 yards from us). As he was showing us the functionality of the new radio I hear someone flying a heli behind us. I look and sure enough there is his scale bird up in the air. I told him to hit thottle hold but he didn't understand what was going on so I set the throttle down. bird and everyone was safe. thank god no one was near the heli.

I always noticed that after he flies he leaves the heli on and has converstations all the time. In the passed I neglected to tell him anything as he is a experienced pilot and ever sense I've known him he's done this. but proves that electrics have one more thing to worry about if your careless to not unplug it.

Richard

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05-16-2011 05:23 AM  7 years agoPost 4469
David Blain

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rilopez825-
Experienced Pilot you said?
I'm glad I'm not "Experienced" like him!

David Blain
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05-16-2011 05:27 AM  7 years agoPost 4470
philip 01

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proves that electrics have one more thing to worry about if your careless to not unplug it.
not if you have fail safe set up in the xmitter.

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05-16-2011 05:58 AM  7 years agoPost 4471
rilopez825

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He had his throttle hold on but to display the input to output of the throttle channel he switched it off. I am not saying it's the electrics fault clearly he was negligent in powering off his heli, but it could happen to anyone.

Richard

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05-16-2011 06:00 AM  7 years agoPost 4472
philip 01

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not if the fail safe is set properly.

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05-16-2011 06:43 AM  7 years agoPost 4473
BobOD

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It is a valid point indeed. Careless of him...YES! But, Nitro is more inherrently safe in this regard. You know when the power source is live.

Well worth the minor risk IMHO.

Well....perhaps I'll reconsider that now that e isn't in the lead on power anymore.

STIR!

Dang man, this thing has blown my mind. What a GREAT weekend.

Team POP Secret

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05-16-2011 06:54 AM  7 years agoPost 4474
Band1086

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I think I've heard it all now...extreme grasping at straws! Regardless, Electrics are way out in the lead, and have been for most of this thread. But, I think they gained even more with all this grasping by the glow guys! Desperation makes people act funny...

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05-16-2011 06:56 AM  7 years agoPost 4475
tadawson

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not if the fail safe is set properly.
If the TX is still on, and the bird still powered, as was the case in this example, failsafe will provide absolutely zero help. If it's on and you bump the throttle, it goes . . . period . . .

- Tim

Friends don't let friends become electrotarded . . . .

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05-16-2011 06:57 AM  7 years agoPost 4476
philip 01

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was speaking of turning the radio off.

common sense takes care of the rest.

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05-16-2011 06:59 AM  7 years agoPost 4477
tadawson

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Apparently it didn't in this case, which was the posters point from the get-go.

- Tim

Friends don't let friends become electrotarded . . . .

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05-16-2011 06:59 AM  7 years agoPost 4478
Band1086

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If it's on and you bump the throttle, it goes . . . period . . .
Yes, absolute reliability...I love it! Another plus for the E's!

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05-16-2011 07:00 AM  7 years agoPost 4479
philip 01

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it should all work out.

throttle hold or failsafe.

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05-16-2011 11:36 AM  7 years agoPost 4480
heli-cuzz

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NITRO
Cuzz do you have a gyro stabilizer on that thing yet?
No stab = NOBAR

Fury 55 NIB Furion6 CGY750 fbl helicopter-Frenzy CGY750 fbl nitro-Frenzy fbl NOBAR90

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