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04-29-2011 03:43 AM  10 years ago
OICU812

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I also will state not all electrics are created equal. Some have more annoying noise levels and sounds over nitro. However that is why there are choices some have nearly silent mechanics due to drive train and gearing. On Nitros you have a few choices but noise results are always nearly the same. Compare how many new electrics in 90 size are out this year, how many new electronic heli tailored products are out this year as well. Very obvious where the demands and interests are IMO....Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
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04-29-2011 04:08 AM  10 years ago
BobOD

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if you like to fiddle, take up the violin!
No thanks, I play keyboards.

As for the helis, I do like electrics too but I'm finding I prefer the Nitro lately is all. I'm a bit demanding and I demand duration. For the same duration, electric has less power IMO.

Furthermore, I have a 600 nitro with a 90 in it and have it setup running 2400 RPM. I didn't just slap in a bigger motor...I set it up to load the motor to its max and I don't find it any less powerful than my electric. That took a little fiddling as it's not off the shelf...but as I said, that's another part of the hobby that I enjoy. It's way more than a flying hobby to me. In fact, I have several other hobbies beyond that.
It's not my favorite heli to fly though...I find the one with the 55 in it has ample power and better duration. Just my preference. Very simply, I am quite happy to give up on peak power for the added duration. That's me and I don't expect, nor would I be so rude as to say, that everybody has to feel the same way as I do. If any of my comments have seemed that way, I was likely just busting chops...another thing I enjoy.

OH, and BTW, I totally agree with heli-cuzz...it's not like it's a ton of work. LOL In the last 100 flights or so, I did have a glow plug go bad. I think that set me back maybe 5 minutes...diagnosis and all. Not much to fuss about there. If/when I run into something more complicated, I'll enjoy myself anyway. Some do get uptight...me? Never.
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04-29-2011 04:10 AM  10 years ago
BobOD

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airborne weed whackers
And you should expect retort all the times you have belittled our interests.
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04-29-2011 04:23 AM  10 years ago
Rogman88

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It's not about the power dude.
It's about the fiddling then?

High Voltage just works better
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04-29-2011 04:30 AM  10 years ago
BobOD

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It's about the fiddling then?
Good to see you are feeling yourself again Rog.

Wise arse.
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04-29-2011 04:31 AM  10 years ago
BladeStrikes

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Who hell fiddles.... Are the ones that turned all electric due to lack of proper tuning skills
That's about it.Take's a whole tank or 2 max to tune the motor and you don't mess with it anymore.You don't burn up glow plugs,clutches,ring's and you don't have to tune.The one's that do and went to electric blame nitro due to their lack of learning something a monkey can learn .I have over 130 flight's on the same glow plug,motor,blade's,skid's and well,whole heli .
Just messing around guy's but I really do have over 130 flight's on everything .The only time I messed with the tune was a week ago.Richened the motor all the way up to 2 full turn's out on each needle just to see how it would pull some 620mm Mavrikk G5 pro wide chores and it did awesome..

OICU812,
If you like the blade sound like I do,buy a set of Mavrikk's.Their loud as hell on my nitro and im about to try them on the 600E tomorrow if it's nice out .These are the older style and the newer one's are said to be much better.Once I get the $$,im trying a newer set...

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04-29-2011 04:37 AM  10 years ago
McKrackin

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Nitro and electric are two completely different hobbies with almost nothing in common.

They have the flying in common but that's a small part of it.

Battery powered helis are for people only interested in the flying.
I bet if there were some high quality RTF electric helis,they would sell like hotcakes.Buy and fly.

Nitro requires a little skill and work while it's on the ground.
There's always something you can do a little different or a little better.

Electric is just about spending more money.
Not enough power?Buy something.
Getting hot?Buy something.

If all you want to do is fly,battery power is the way to go.

If you like to work on stuff and get your hands dirty as well as fly,nitro is the ticket.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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04-29-2011 05:20 AM  10 years ago
Band1086

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I would disagree with almost everything Mck just said except for this:
if there were some high quality RTF electric helis,they would sell like hotcakes.Buy and fly.
That's probably true, however, if there were some high quality RTF nitro helis, the same could be said, except for the fact that nitro is becoming obsolete.
Nitro requires a little skill and work while it's on the ground.
There's always something you can do a little different or a little better.
The same could be said of Electric.
Electric is just about spending more money.
Not enough power?Buy something.
Getting hot?Buy something.
The same can be said of nitro, and for that matter, all of the RC hobby....

etc, etc.
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04-29-2011 05:21 AM  10 years ago
BladeStrikes

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If you like to work on stuff and get your hands dirty as well as fly,nitro is the ticket.
Once you learn to get the tune right Mc,it's no different than electric..
Look at the 600E I had a while back.Had it for 3 week's and with in 1 day,it cost me over $450 buck in brand new lipo's so I sold it and said I would never keep another electric.Well I dumped money into another one and now love it.I pretty much went through the exact same thing with electric that your going through with nitro.The money it cost to rebuild the OS 90 can go the same way with electric which show's one is no better than the other and I know that first hand..When I had the issue with the 600E a while back,electric fans would cover thing's up saying it was the 6S setup that did it.If that was true,the one I have now wouldn't make it a day as it make's sick power.It just showed me that the fan's will say anything to make what they have better for their lack of skill's with the other.All I can say now is I love both equal ..
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04-29-2011 05:27 AM  10 years ago
OICU812

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Lon, I tried the Mav FBL blades, but honestly I found their tendacies to be very poor in tracking and overall stability. I have no idea on their FB ones as of course I do not fly flybarred helis anymore....Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
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04-29-2011 05:32 AM  10 years ago
McKrackin

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The difference is,I enjoy working on the engine when I tear it up.lol...

When you tear up an electric,you strip a bunch of stuff off,throw it away and plug in some new stuff.
There's always something you can do a little different or a little better.
The same could be said of Electric.
Once you've bought the best ESC and best motor and best battery...what else can you do better with electric?
I literally never use the word literally right.
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04-29-2011 05:35 AM  10 years ago
OICU812

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Once you buy the best motor, the best pipe, what much else can you do? Exactly..... this is a weird part of the arguement to say the least, you guys are running out of "real" reasons if any? be honest with yourselves ...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
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04-29-2011 05:36 AM  10 years ago
BladeStrikes

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OICU812,
It's cool,just thought I would let ya know .Im changing one of my 600 over to FBL soon and trying a set on it,pretty sure it will be the 600E first then the 600N.I like these older Mavrikk's but im told the newer one's are alot better.Speeking of going out of tracking,I think I remember my buddy saying that when he put them on his 12S 600E.Maybe it's the higher headspeed screwing the tracking up as their fine on my nitro.I'll find out on 600E tomorrow if it's nice out.That could be one of the issue's they fixed with the newer one's.Not trying to talk you into trying the newer one's,just hoping it's not a issue when I get a set .Now you have me thinking haha..
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04-29-2011 05:36 AM  10 years ago
McKrackin

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By the way,what are all these problems I'm supposedly having with nitro?

A hot start.Sure.Learned from it.

Left the air line off the muffler.OK but that goes back to the hot start.The clutch was sprung and I changed it in a hurry.

Oh yeah,I broke a ring on the 50.

It's not like I'm repeating the stuff and I learn it all on my own.
Some guys would have ten times more trouble if they were part of a flying club.

My helis are the only ones I've ever seen so I think I'm doing OK.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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04-29-2011 05:40 AM  10 years ago
OICU812

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mcrackin you brought that up I didn't man. Besides dont forget I still do fly friends Nitros here and there, and did start with them, and honestly makes no difference to me what you or anyone flies, but I really have no clue why I entered this thread again, same old stuff happening here anyways......Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
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04-29-2011 06:04 AM  10 years ago
McKrackin

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Well,I started with electric and it lost its appeal when I got it all going good.
It was easy to get it just right too.I just bought better stuff.lol....

I am learning something new now and loving it.
I'd say I'll have it the way I want it very soon but the mechanical aspect of it will keep me interested.

I seriously enjoy the noise,smell and the occasional cleaning.

Why is that so hard for people to accept?

I am in the same boat as you.I couldn't care less what you fly.

Nitro appeals to me and battery power appeals to you.

Why are people trying to cram their opinions down other peoples throats?

Plug-n-play for some.
Fuel and fly for others.

People who have tried both and settled on one or the other are happy.

There's enough info out there for others to make an informed decision.

The funny thing is,all the stuff I see nowadays.
I just watched Smacktalk episode 4.
Bobby and Bert go to Vegas for fun and no competition.
Bobby took two helis.One EP and one nitro.
Bert took one heli.Nitro.

What did they fly when it was all for fun?
They both flew their Trex 700 nitros.

They both have EP and nitro but when they want to do a tandem smack down for the fun of it,the nitros come out.

Imagine that
I literally never use the word literally right.
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04-29-2011 06:25 AM  10 years ago
OICU812

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Why are you bringing emotions from your own thread you closed into this one? There's no room for emotions in this thread it's kind of an open battlefield right Bob? ...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
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04-29-2011 06:28 AM  10 years ago
McKrackin

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What emotionsI literally never use the word literally right.
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04-29-2011 06:30 AM  10 years ago
McKrackin

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This is actually where this stuff belongs.E vs N thread.
The go electric stuff did not belong in a thread wanting help with a nitro issue though.Did it?
I literally never use the word literally right.
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04-29-2011 07:03 AM  10 years ago
OICU812

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As Shaggy said "wasn't me"... that right there is bringing a thread into another. ...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
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