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04-23-2011 05:09 AM  7 years agoPost 3481
Ravenhyper50

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Elk, how much fuel did you figure in that price and how much per gallon?

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Here's a possible scenario.

Let's say he flys 300 flights a year. That's quite a lot for most people in this hobby. And he has 5 helis. I don't know the mix so I'll figure he flies all equally even though most people I know tend to fly the smaller ones more often. So, 1/5 of 300 is 60 flights per year. If he's flying 4 minute flights, he should be able to get about 16 flights per gallon. So 4 gallons should do for the year.

Helidirect currently has Nitro on sale for $17 per gallon.
That's 68 bucks for the year of flying.
Oh Yes, Now that was a good stir!

Nitro... if its burning...your learning!!!

Love the smell of stick time.

Hate the smell of lithium

Nitro burn , fill, burn fill, burn.

electric...use, let cool......charge.............quick test flight........charge......still charging...ahhh is ten minutes up yet...lol back to back now I need a gen..ahh will I burn the same amount of nitro as a gen would cost?? $1000 in fuel can last me up here for 2-3 years easy. And have way more stick time...hmmm

yep, easy answer is Nitro is best for grab and go, fill and fly.
electrics not so much.

Electric = cool if your field has power or you have deep pockets!

Nitro = Cool no matter what..its a f-n nitro flying machine very cool!

Raven

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04-23-2011 05:22 AM  7 years agoPost 3482
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That's 68 bucks for the year of flying
That's for one little N 30(8 oz. tank)(not fun to fly 3D with), what about the other 4? Did you forget about them?

Let's say he has 2 700 size helis he flies the most(I have 3).

150 flights on each: Electric 2 sets of TP 65C's $1000 150
cycles on each set.

Nitro 50 gal. of fuel(CP 30% not some
crappy 20% stuff) $25/gal. $1250

Electric saves $250 for that year in fuel cost, plus you have at least another whole year of battery usage for free. That's a total savings of $250 + $1250 = $1500 with which a gen, ps, and chargers can be purchased, which will last a very long time. Meanwhile with the N your still burning hundreds of dollars!

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04-23-2011 05:24 AM  7 years agoPost 3483
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yep, easy answer is Nitro is best for grab and go, fill and fly.
electrics not so much.

Electric = cool if your field has power or you have deep pockets!

Nitro = Cool no matter what..its a f-n nitro flying machine very cool!
Not sure if your joking or lying

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04-23-2011 05:36 AM  7 years agoPost 3484
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truth hurts??

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04-23-2011 05:47 AM  7 years agoPost 3485
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I guess what Band is saying is if you burn alot of fuel
electric can cost less

IF you burn 1250$ of nitro per season

I might go through 2 cases 200$ of fuel per season

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04-23-2011 05:54 AM  7 years agoPost 3486
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I guess what Band is saying is if you burn alot of fuel
electric can cost less
Of course it does, and if you don't fly as much you can buy el cheapo HK packs and not spend hardly anything on batteries.

But I was really responding to Bobs "scenario" based on his idea of 300 flights/year.

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04-23-2011 05:58 AM  7 years agoPost 3487
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Also, if you fly a lot, and use the really good packs, the more you fly the cheaper it gets...just the opposite of nitro.

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04-23-2011 06:03 AM  7 years agoPost 3488
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hope we get to fly more and spend less time here soon

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04-23-2011 06:07 AM  7 years agoPost 3489
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Electrics are not toys.

Watch at YouTube

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04-23-2011 06:07 AM  7 years agoPost 3490
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what about the other 4? Did you forget about them?
Nope. I was figuring a plausable cost of his Nitro 700. It could be 68 bucks for the year. Can you beat that with electric?
Let's say he has 2 700 size helis he flies the most(I have 3).
He has 1. YOU have 3.
150 flights on each: Electric 2 sets of TP 65C's $1000 150
cycles on each set.
So...you have 3 helis that share the same 2 sets of bats? OK, that equation might work for YOU. It might not work for him or even most people. Heck, I have 2 600's that don't even take the same packs. And soon, I will have 2 Nitro 600's that will have different power systems. Just the way I am...I like to try a lot of different things. The bats wind up costing me a LOT more than the nitro stuff. But, that's me.

OK, the 20% fuel was a cheap shot on my part. But the last time I looked, they had 30% on sale for $18 a gallon. And, if he's spending most of his time practicing orientation skills, I wouldn't mind burning 20%. Neither of us asked him what he was interested in though.

Don't mind us Elk....we just like bashing each other.

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04-23-2011 06:12 AM  7 years agoPost 3491
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hope we get to fly more and spend less time here soon
Tomorrow all day here. Check this weather report out:
Saturday: Sunny, with a high near 66. Calm wind becoming north around 5 mph.
Charge, fly, charge while I fly, fly again while I'm charging...back to back flying, no waiting at all...at least not for charging. My buddies get to fly too

TP 65C's! I love 'em!

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04-23-2011 06:17 AM  7 years agoPost 3492
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Nope. I was figuring a plausable cost of his Nitro 700. It could be 68 bucks for the year. Can you beat that with electric?
4 gallons for a whole year on a 700N, that's 24 flights...less than one flight every two weeks. Come on Bob get real!

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04-23-2011 06:21 AM  7 years agoPost 3493
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at least you leave others a chance to fly

have fun

thinking about it

IF
an electric guy flies with a nitro guy who get's the most stick time
IF
they take turns flying that same day

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04-23-2011 06:22 AM  7 years agoPost 3494
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Electrics are not toys.
I hope they're joking, not lying

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04-23-2011 06:24 AM  7 years agoPost 3495
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thinking about it

IF
an electric guy flies with a nitro guy who get's the most stick time
IF
they take turns flying that same day
The electric guy of course, because the nitro guy invariably runs out of fuel!

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04-23-2011 06:25 AM  7 years agoPost 3496
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each get 10 flighs
electric guy 5 min X10 = 50 mins
nitro guy 8 mins X10 = 80 mins

Nitro Wins

stir stir

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04-23-2011 06:32 AM  7 years agoPost 3497
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At only 6 flights per gallon they need to bring 2 gallons. But then when that runs out, the E guys are still flying(18-20 flights or more) because the Honda 2000i will run all day on 1 gallon of gas!

OH, and I forgot to mention, the N guys can't usually fly out 2 gallons because after a few hours of breathing the N fumes they don't feel too good and have to go home. But the E guys are breathing nice clean fresh air and feel great all day!

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04-23-2011 06:40 AM  7 years agoPost 3498
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4 gallons for a whole year on a 700N, that's 24 flights...less than one flight every two weeks. Come on Bob get real!
To be fair, I was considering each flight was only 4 min. like the electric. Closer to 48 flights. More like one a week.

I don't enjoy flying in winter. That's 2 a week.
Rain...???

Then there's heli 2.
Heli 3
Heli 4

How much time do you get to fly?
You have kids?

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04-23-2011 06:41 AM  7 years agoPost 3499
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Honda 2000i will run all day on 1 gallon of gas!
That liquid stuff sure is efficient eh?

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04-23-2011 07:06 AM  7 years agoPost 3500
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That liquid stuff sure is efficient eh?
Yeah, depending on the gen used, but not so much with the cheaper gens.
To be fair, I was considering each flight was only 4 min. like the electric.
"To be fair", a 700E would get at least 6 mins(probably more) not 4, esp. for a guy who only flies 2-3 times a month. 4 min flights is a 450 size...

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