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04-19-2011 07:01 AM  7 years agoPost 3281
Band1086

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You still up Bob...isn't it 2 o'clock there!

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04-19-2011 08:13 AM  7 years agoPost 3282
BladeStrikes

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Band1086
I'd say IC is more profitable as it wears out much faster and the fuel cost is so high, esp if one flies a lot.
Hundred's of flight's on ANY of my nitro's and only replace the ring around 350 flight's,no bearing issue's either.It's a freakin $15.00 dollar ring,OMG the world will end .Fuel isn't high at all and it's been the same for the past 3 year's in my area but you wouldn't know that as you don't fly nitro anymore ...Nitro is ALOT cheaper for me I fly hundred's of flight's every year.Not even summer yet and im already at 176 flight <--- That's 357 electric flight's because you get HALF so tell me if your keeping up .

20 good flight's on my Turnigy's and still going strong..I ordered 2 more and a iCharger for my 600E so I can charge faster and fly more .Im loving both N and E .I love the power of the electric and nitro.Can't bog either and one can't out fly the other.The nitro flat out SMOKE'S the electric in flight time by a long run for sure and I fly them the same way..
It's really all personal but some always seem to think their right and can't post any kind of proof,just bla,bla,bla .

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04-19-2011 11:17 AM  7 years agoPost 3283
Ronald Thomas

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cuzz this thread is dead what do you think you are doing?

Sending it back to the top
And making some people RR Masters in the process

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04-19-2011 12:49 PM  7 years agoPost 3284
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electric is better cause of the cool smoke that comes out when you fly. Wait a second, that is my ESC catching fire!!

Ha ha.

All kidding aside, this debate will never be settled. I do prefer electric, but it has much more to do with my flying preferences, and no so much flying style, just the fact that i work a lot of hours, have kids i like to spend time with, and therefore my typical flight sessions are basically have a 2 lipos charging at work, leave at 5, fly two quickies on the way home, and see my kids.

As i charge while i'm working, it takes no time out of my day, and i get 12 minutes of flying with about 14 minutes of time invested. Obviously a bit more the more batteries i decide to bring. I do love the fact that chargers are getting so fast that flight times are starting to get close to charge times.

If i went out and flew for hours or a whole day at a time, i'd probably still have my electrics, but i'd have a nitro 50 and 90 too as fuel and fly all day is very convenient too.

I think for some people, the choice comes down more to the above, and the fact that i have a sedan, and when i did have a nitro, it made a mess in the car if i didn't take the time to clean it well. For guys with a SUV/truck, not a big deal really.

I've often thought about getting a gasser as well, same nice things about nitro (not all the power, i know) but with fantastic run times and very little cleanup. Plus they sound pretty cool

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04-19-2011 01:20 PM  7 years agoPost 3285
Rogman88

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All kidding aside, this debate will never be settled.
As batteries get better, cheaper, last longer, deliver more power I will say by 10 years from now, nitro will be a novelty item.

There that should get the poo poo off the bottom of the pot...heh heh...

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04-19-2011 01:27 PM  7 years agoPost 3286
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i tend to agree rogman. Engines, though cool, and having some small advancements now and again, are pretty much tapped out as far as power in a certain package, mostly because they've been around so long and are so well understood, and the limitations are understood as well. Electric is really still its infancy. I think lipos will get a bit better, than a new battery technology will be found, and in 10 years, offer quadruple the power and longevity output per unit weight. At that point, people will still fly nitro's i'm sure, but the power and longevity argument will be long gone.

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04-19-2011 01:27 PM  7 years agoPost 3287
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This thread has really got me thinking electric weed eater or gas weed eater....anyone

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04-19-2011 01:29 PM  7 years agoPost 3288
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...I will say by 10 years from now, nitro will be a novelty item.
I hope you're around in ten years, you may have to change your statement.

Wayne - Fly it like you stole it! You're in good hands with Runryder!

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04-19-2011 01:45 PM  7 years agoPost 3289
Rogman88

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I hope you're around in ten years, you may have to change your statement.
Nah, this statement will be buried in 2000 pages of thread and no one will want to go back and find it.

Anyway, I'll be flying my 150C, 10,000 mah Lithium XXX batteries that have the same weight and size of my current 3000 Lipos by then...

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04-19-2011 02:13 PM  7 years agoPost 3290
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Wayne - Fly it like you stole it! You're in good hands with Runryder!

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04-19-2011 03:29 PM  7 years agoPost 3291
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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laughingstill
cuzz this thread is dead what do you think you are doing?

Sending it back to the top
And making some people RR Masters in the process
i figured that but i didnt have time but i got me two pennies worth

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04-19-2011 03:56 PM  7 years agoPost 3292
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All kidding aside, this debate will never be settled.
As batteries get better, cheaper, last longer, deliver more power I will say by 10 years from now, nitro will be a novelty item.
Based on what I see at my local field and at fun flies, electric is already the dominant and predominant power system. On any busy day at my local field, there may be 20-25 members with 40 aircraft (both planes and helis). There is typically only one or two aircraft that is not powered by electric. Most days there will be no gas or nitro aircraft at our field. I am not exaggerating!

Whenever someone fires up and flies a gasser/nitro, it is noticeably disturbing to the others. Comments are made like, "why don't they fly that noise maker somewhere else," or "damn, that thing is noisy!"

Some readers may be thinking, "what about those noisy generators?" Nope, we have utility provided electric power at our field. Since we got electricity, the entire club has voluntarily become almost exclusively electric.

Bottom-line, it won't take ten years or even ten months. It only takes utility power to kill nitro.

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04-19-2011 03:58 PM  7 years agoPost 3293
BobOD

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You still up Bob...isn't it 2 o'clock there!
Sleep is such a terribly wasteful practice...invented to keep cavemen from stumbling around in the dark.
I always have too many things I want to do then to waste time on such things.

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04-19-2011 04:16 PM  7 years agoPost 3294
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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i all most traded my 500 for a nitro 600

but i have two nitros already .

id rather had a 600 e tho but the 500 parts are nice and cheap

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04-19-2011 05:08 PM  7 years agoPost 3295
Rogman88

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+1 to everything Rexxigpilot said.

We got electricity at our field a 3 years ago and went from a couple of guys flying foamy planks and electric helis to about 1/2 of everyone flying electric now exclusively and 3/4 of the guys who have nitro also have a foamy plank or electric heli. We've got a bunch of tables set up by electric sockets and there are as much as 4 power supplies and 6 chargers going on any given Sunday. Also when someone fires up a big nitro or Gasoline we are reminded at how dad gum noisy those things are and the grumbling starts.

Now we've got 9 electric helis and two nitro helis at our field.

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04-19-2011 05:37 PM  7 years agoPost 3296
BladeStrikes

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If you swing,post below .

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04-19-2011 05:53 PM  7 years agoPost 3297
Band1086

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As batteries get better, cheaper, last longer, deliver more power I will say by 10 years from now, nitro will be a novelty item.
I doubt it will take that long. At the introduction of the Ion X in '04, electrics were very few, and that heli made them barely practical with it's great performance, but E's were still just a cool novelty. That was only seven years ago, and now E's, including small ones, are much more common then their counterparts. Soon N's will be the novelty!
Sleep is such a terribly wasteful practice...invented to keep cavemen from stumbling around in the dark.
I always have too many things I want to do then to waste time on such things.
LOL
Sleep is highly over rated huh?

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04-19-2011 07:08 PM  7 years agoPost 3298
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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the noise is the best part and the smoke.

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04-19-2011 07:15 PM  7 years agoPost 3299
rexxigpilot

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BladeStrikes/Lon, This is not a back stabbing, crybaby or girls crying issue. You are missing a big point about the noise from nitro and gassers.

Many of us fly at an AMA chartered field that is also on public property. We don't wildcat at some open field near our homes. The AMA has established guidelines for noise as do most local ordinances. The AMA rules for Leader chartered clubs restricts noise to 90dBA at 9 feet. My club is AMA Gold Leader. The local laws covering our field don't even have an exact sound pressure level limit. It is up any and every individual's discretion if the sound is considered noise, and noise violates the law!
http://www.leoncountyfl.gov/GROWTH/...an/ORD08-08.pdf
I have measured the sound pressure level at our field when gassers and some loud nitro engines are running/flying. They exceed the 90dBA limit at well over 50 feet! So you see, they violate both the AMA requirements and local law.

We have neighbors who live adjacent to our field, within about 300 feet of our flight line. If they get annoyed by the noise from our models they can simply call the county and complain or call law enforcement. If this happened often, we would certainly lose our field!

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04-19-2011 07:19 PM  7 years agoPost 3300
Rogman88

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BladeStrikes/Lon, This is not a back stabbing, crybaby or girls crying issue. You are missing a big point about the noise from nitro and gassers.
I don't see anything about Back stabbing and crying girls...did I miss something

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