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10-16-2010 12:55 AM  8 years agoPost 1
Benth

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So I'm building a 600se for a customer and in bag 7 I have 2 steel washers that look similar to the brass 11.5x16x1 washers. I can't find where they go anywhere in book. The head goes together fine with just the parts shown in the diagram, no slop no binding. I would still like to know what they are for. Anybody know??

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10-16-2010 12:58 AM  8 years agoPost 2
wrongler

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washers
could they be for tail rotor?

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10-16-2010 06:15 AM  8 years agoPost 3
Benth

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Well I don't really know. The deal is a friend of mine bought it built most of it and decided it would be better if I finished if. The story as he told it to me was the parts for the main rotor spindles were all in bag 7 and that there were 2 extra washers in the bag not shown in the exploded picture of the head assembly or in the box on the side that shows the parts individually and tells you the size and quantity of the parts. They seem a little big to go in the tail anywhere. They almost look like main shaft spacers but my friend says those were in another bag. Has anybody else run into this?

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10-16-2010 02:17 PM  8 years agoPost 4
Zaaaguy72

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I have the same two washers, have no idea where they go.

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10-16-2010 02:51 PM  8 years agoPost 5
GScott

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Had the same 2. I ended up not using them.

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10-16-2010 08:01 PM  8 years agoPost 6
Steff Giguere

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Could these be the washer which go between the bottom main shaft bearing and the auto-rotation gear and the other between the auto-rotation gear and the main gear?

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10-17-2010 12:41 AM  8 years agoPost 7
Zaaaguy72

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Too small for that.

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10-17-2010 05:24 AM  8 years agoPost 8
Benth

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Well I do feel better that I'm not the only one to encounter this. I just didn't use them. If I figure it out or anybody knows please post it.
Thanks

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11-22-2010 10:08 PM  8 years agoPost 9
arhennie

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I guess you mean the shims for the tail shaft. If you have horisontal play in the tail shaft you shall use them there. The shims are not shown in the manual.

arhennie

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11-23-2010 05:04 PM  8 years agoPost 10
mghinea

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I had the same two washers in my build and I didn't use them, although I tried to fit them somewhere. The only place they will really fit is on the main shaft, wherever you want them, but not on the tail shaft (which is way too little diameter), or the spindle (where I tried them first...).
So, I suppose they are there to get away with the vertical play in the main shaft, if ever needed.
I will keep them in my toolbox for now.
Mircea

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11-24-2010 03:51 AM  8 years agoPost 11
NYant69

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I asked the same question to Dave Dahl and he told me they were just 2 spare washers.

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11-29-2010 11:28 PM  8 years agoPost 12
Benth

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You know I love mikado but this washer thing is pretty stupid of them. Let's put 2 random washers in the bag with all the head components for a $2500 Helicopter and not even mention them. Sure most people won't use them but how about the guy who decides they gotta go in there somewhere and and somehow rigs it up and the thing binds up and crashes?? It's a dumb idea to put random washers in the bag with the MOST important components on the machine. I think they should send me a free 600SE kit as an apology

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12-09-2010 09:50 AM  8 years agoPost 13
arhennie

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I just finished my build and used one under the e-clip on the main shaft. What is more stupid is that the shimming of the tail rotor shaft is not mentioned in the manual.

arhennie

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12-09-2010 03:11 PM  8 years agoPost 14
VANHELI

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I too wondered what they were. I was confident in the build and accepted that they were just that "spares"...now a little off topic, the manual could be improved. If you are experienced in building helis then no problem but to a beginner it could be a little challenging. Not sure to many people buy a logo for there first heli anyway...although they should!

Dave V.

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12-09-2010 04:25 PM  8 years agoPost 15
Justin Pucci

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I have the same two spare washers and did not end up using them in my build. They were in the head parts bag in my kit.

Arhennie,

I'm curious as to why you used one of them under the e-clip on the main shaft? My manual only shows one between the belt pulley gear and the bottom main shaft bearing and one between the belt pulley gear and the main gear. My Logo 500 3D, on the other hand, does make use of one in the location to which you're referring...

Cheers,
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12-09-2010 10:37 PM  8 years agoPost 16
arhennie

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@Justin Pucci
I used the washers described in the manual, but had a little slop there and one of them extra washers fit. A little tight, but I didnt need to force it in there.

arhennie

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12-10-2010 12:54 AM  8 years agoPost 17
aviatorflyer

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This reply was on helifreak & I put mine there.
"For those of you that have a bit of play in the blade grips and are adding a second plastic washer between dampeners and blade grip there is a better way. Both my 500 and the 600 upgrade head I bought came with a metal washer that measure 10x16x0.5mm. You can use this washer between the radial bearing and the thrust bearing in conjunction with the brass washer... (order from main shaft outward in the blade grip would be: bearing/bearing/washer/brass washer/thrust bearing/washer/bolt) this will take out any play. That washer is not pictured anywhere in the manual but all kits come with it and must of us probably have it still in the leftover pile :-) This info came straight from mikado tech support..."

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